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I actually didn't say Fields was better than Herbert, just that I like his potential better than Herbert. I only saw the first ~20min of the game thinking I could see a couple young gold-standard QBs to compare against what I've seen from Fields. I try to apply the same standard I would for a Bears QB when he misses what should have been an easy first down completion. I guess another way to look at this could be if Herbert can throw for over 4000 yards with his inconsistencies then Fields should be able to get there as well when talent and scheme come together.

Fields still has many things to improve upon but most importantly I'd like to see his decision making speed up by about 0.5s. In that aspect I think Herbert was more decisive. Fields is in a brand new offense so that won't happen overnight but I want to see glimpses of it across the first 4 games.

One thing worth noting from the 49ers game when Fields almost threw a pick on the right sideline to ESB. In his press conference yesterday Getsy said that was entirely his fault. He said he has never once had ESB practice that route and shouldn't have called that play.

Easy, it was all the inaccurate passes Herbert threw last night. He had some dimes mixed in for sure including a crazy good deep pass after he was injured (only saw highlight on that one). What I saw before he was injured was an inconsistent mixed bag. Even on one play the TV crew highlighted where he was so far behind his inside slant WR on an incompletion, "throw it in front of him and that's a first down". These weren't passes where he was under pressure but regardless Fields has shown better from a compressed pocket.

I watched most of the first half of the KC/Chargers game. We're in good hands with Fields. I'd take him over Herbert any day of the week. Mahomes OTOH is a unique arm talent. Of the 3 QBs you listed I'm not a big fan of Kyler Murray. I don't feel he's a QB who brings the talent level upward. You can win with him but what he did last year once Hopkins was injured is more indicative of who he is. I put Hurts in that same category as Murray, a QB you can win with but not because of. Lamar Jackson is the opposite of Mahomes because he's a unique talent running with the ball. I'm impressed though with how much he has improved his passing ability but there is still room for growth. IMO Baltimore needs to start cultivating that more because Considering what his skillset has been early in his career they've done well to maximize it on the field. I don't want to see him keep getting injured and end up with a shorter career. IMO Fields fits in nicely between them. He's very good on the run but not elite in lateral agility like Jackson. OTOH he's a much better passer than Jackson especially as compared to when Jackson was starting his 2nd season. Fields isn't too far behind Mahomes in arm talent, certainly good enough to make some elite throws which we've already seen at times. In just his 2nd season week 1 he's already using his eyes to move defenders around on the field. Just tonight the announcers were complimenting Mahomes, who is in his 5th season in the same offense for doing that. But Mahomes wasn't doing any of that in the first week of his 2nd season, he also didn't have to. We just need to have some patience.

I know and whenever I predict a loss I'm grateful for how wrong I was. Just remember the internet lives forever and what goes around comes around.

Here's a quote from the Bears website, doesn't sound at all like the above statement. https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-hoping-to-flip-script-on-longtime-nemesis-aaron-rodgers-packers "It's going to start with the D-line," Gipson said. "He knows how to hard-count, catch some guys in substitutions. We're going to have to be clean on that, and just disciplined. No offsides, no roughing the passer, no dumb penalties. It's a rivalry game, so we're going to have to keep our poise. He's a vet; he knows how to play this game. We're just going to have to keep our poise and disrupt him as much as possible."

That sounds like Keyshawn.

From Jul 27th, well before anything out of training camp much less the preseason games. Even then I'd still have the 49ers favored. However, I don't gamble much but I'd have easily taken the Bears and the points. We had 5 rookies show up big in their first game and not just with a few good plays. I don't know what the odds of that happening are but it's something close to zero. Especially with 2 being at high value positions: LT/DE which put their strength positions OT/DE against them.

How does Russell Wilson negotiating whatever he can get be a problem for Lamar Jackson negotiating for whatever he can? 5yr $242mil. I understand all the benchmarking of contracts but Keyshawn and others have always been about players getting all the money they can get. I personally take a different view more like Brady where he kept his deal low (top 10) so his team could sign more good players with the thought that would help him win more Superbowls. Brady is playing for $15mil this year which seems ridiculously low. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/sort-value/quarterback/limit-100/

It's Facebook so who knows what is real.

Are they ripping on the Oline for giving him too much time to throw? In all seriousness if that's our problem now we've come a long way. However, I suspect they are looking at time to throw which included all the extended plays where he broke the pocket.

I agree it's too early especially with stats. Right now I'm trusting the process and going with what I see. That includes the film breakdowns I can find. The early start to the 49ers game looked similar to what we saw against Cleveland last year. The 2nd half did not.

Good stuff. https://www.chicagobears.com/video/roquan-smith-mic-d-up-vs-49ers-this-is-my-type-of-party

That would do it.

I'm not sure I understand why we'd do this. Schofield backs up RG and I presume RT. Is Lucas Patrick going to play C? Even then you have to think Mustipher is backup C/RG or isn't he? Eiselen was brought up to 53 last game day as backup C. I understood carrying one extra Olineman in Leatherwood because of his potential. Schofield on the opposite end of that spectrum. The only real advantage I can see is keeping him in the system for a few more weeks and away from anyone else who might need OG help. Not that I'd worry if he was blocking for someone else.

Eberflus stated this in the press conference. No other detail given.

On a couple plays I saw some of the same trait from Lucas Patrick. He keeps his head up and was quick to react to help elsewhere if/when needed. He moves much better than Mustipher. I'm pretty optimistic for what we'll have when Patrick is at C with Jenkins at RG.

Awesome!

I watched MNF and already it's clear we got the right offensive coach out of GB. We also have the guy that has been the voice in Rodgers ear for the last 3 years. He knows as well as anyone what he likes to do and how he "sees" the game. Conversely Getsy also knows what Rodgers doesn't like to see in a defense. In the grand scheme of things those are small tidbits that might help here or there because in the end it always comes down to execution. Unlike Lance, Rodgers isn't going airmail easy passes over the head of his WRs but he might miss them if they are in the wrong spot at the wrong time. If we're in cover 2 Vildor will provide Rodgers the best target for his favorite pass into the gap. Just like last year where they ran Adams all over the field to get him away from J. Johnson they will be trying to get that matchup with whoever they like best. I don't know which WR that might be. Their DBs should match up well against our WRs but the front 7 isn't anywhere near what we just saw but they are good. Nothing has changed since training camp for me, if we can run we can win. You could say we couldn't run against SF but that was early and once we could run the game changed. One thing that I'm hearing now is how the coaches changed up some of the run blocking fits to match what the 49ers were doing. Can Getsy's knowledge help us get off to a quicker start? How does Fields' mobility affect what they want to do? After the 49ers game I'm going to guess we will see more of a controlled rush focused on keeping him in the pocket likely augmented with blitzes off the edge to test our OTs and Fields on the road. Defense against Rodgers is really just about getting pressure from the front 4. When it's too easy they need to be watching for the screens to the RBs. I'd expect their runs to look a lot like our runs, and what we just saw from the 49ers. In that sense there shouldn't be too many surprises there, just gotta execute. Their Oline is a bit banged up, maybe we'll see some backups on the edge. Are there any tells Getsy can provide to the defense? Given Eberflus' attention to detail I'm sure there isn't much he doesn't already know from his time as a DC. Given the progress of the Oline in game 1 I'm optimistic we can put up at least 24pts but I think we'll need 28 to win on road. Can the D provide it?

Thayer's take on a couple plays.

Watching the youngsters improve as the game went along was enjoyable. There is still room to grow but there are quite a few positives coming out of this game and I think the Oline's confidence will be much higher this weekend.

Poles could have easily protected him as he can protect 4 PS players. He chose not to. Despite my optimism this guy would turn into a good player for us, given what this staff has done with so many young players I have to trust their judgment. They saw quite a bit of him over the offseason so most likely he didn't fit within the culture of the HITS system. There is reason to believe that too because last year Graham said it was his fault he didn't make the 53 as he wasn't working hard enough. https://www.news5cleveland.com/sports/browns/cb-thomas-graham-jr-signed-to-the-cleveland-browns-from-the-chicago-bears Forgot to add that in his place the Bears signed former Vikings DB Harrison Hand. He has more game experience than Graham had. https://nfltraderumors.co/bears-sign-db-harrison-hand-to-practice-squad/ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HandHa00.htm?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-

I'm just going to speak myself here as a Bears fan but Justin Fields is also dealing with a completely new offensive system, much less new coaches. He put up 19 pts against one of the top 5 defenses from last year. If the NFL MVP can't muster something similar against the Vikings defense which is also dealing with a similar all-new transition to a 3-4 front then yes he shares the blame.