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  1. Instead of judging the players we don't have, why not judge the players we have? Based on the guys we have, we don't have a free safety. If we think Grahahm can play FS, make the switch.

     

    The main problem with Bowman is that our safeties are more likely to get injured. Bowman lasted one game . . . why not switch him and Graham? Bowman can battle it out with Vasher & Moore for the #2 CB spot, and Graham can be the starting FS. I personally like that idea.

    I think Graham is a heckuva CB prospect and filled in very well for the injured Vasher. This would give us to big CB's that both come up and force against the run. I happen to think Vasher may be on the way out if its finacially right.

  2. Combine times were all slow this year, for whatever reason. Probably the new surface, but every position seemed to average like a tenth slower than last year. You had guys like Maclin, who was never caught from behind a single time in college, running like a 4.49.

     

    The big issue with Pegues isn't going to be his speed or even his character, it's his size. The Bears are looking for size at safety, since they've had problems with durability at that spot. Pegues is all of 5'10" 199 - he'd need to put on 10 pounds of muscle to even get up to Mike Brown's size, and Brown was part of the problem as far as injuries go.

     

    Still, given the shape we're in at free safety, I'd have no problem with at least trying Pegues out (along with giving Afalava a shot at FS.) If he can step up and the Bears think he can add enough weight, we definitely need help there.

    I have information listing Pegues at 5-9 194

    Other knocks on him is he is a centerfielder type safety that drags down ball carriers instead of putting a solid hit on them.

  3. I agree, Mike Brown is the face of the Bears' defense for me, much more so than Urlacher. I was so glad to see him back on the field for a whole season, flying around and leveling people. I'm still a little shocked that they didn't want to bring him back, if only to tutor the new guys.

     

    Still, Moore seems like a guy who'll work hard and live up to his billing. I'm not saying he compares to Mike Brown at all, but after hearing a couple of interviews with him, I won't mind him wearing #30.

    How would you guys like to see a player wearing Dick Butkus' number? Thats what a lot of us had to deal with when Jim Morrissey was wearing that number as a rookie on the 85 squad. Butkus is the defensive face of this franchise.

    Prior to Mike Singletary's arrival the numver 50 was worn by HOF center Mike Pyle who also used to do the analysis on preseason games with Johnny Morris #47 who held quite a few of the Bears' receiving records until Marty Booker broke them. Imagine how I felt when I saw a Ken Grandberry RB and Brian Baschnagel waering his number 47.

    How did you feel when Shane Matthews wore Jim McMahon and Bill Wade's number 9 or when a guy like Tank Johnson , Tim Ryan and Jim Flannigan wore Dan Hampton's 99?

    How dare Brian Urlacher wear Tom Hicks and Larry Ely's number! LOL Its almost as bad as when Wilbur Marshall wore Bob Peferini and Jerry Muckensterm's number.

    Rumor has it that Len Walterscheid and Shaun Gayle are trying to receive royalties as a result of Devin Hester wearing their jersey.

     

    Guys this has been happening for decades and now with the constant movement of plsyers via free agency, trade and salary cuts I have grown very accustomed to players wearing a recent legendary number.

  4. What have we did yet to make a judgement on any of our players? We have to go to camp , before we can start judging players.

    Great Post!

     

    For example at Rams camp the number 2 overall pick Jason Smith drafted as a LOT is penciled in at ROT. With the amount of guaranteed money that this pick will get if he is not protecting Mark Bolger's blind side then they might as well be the Raiders who dropped big coin on their number 2 overall pick who stiil has not assumed the position he was drafted at Robert Gallery lined up at LG when he was the top LOT prospect.

  5. I'm with you...and I think Joe Jurevicius would be a great addition for probably a bargain. He's a good portion why TB won that SB against the Chokeland Faders.

     

    Oh yeah, and he's Lithuanian too! ;) More appropriately pronounced "YUR-EH-VIH-CHUS" by the Lith's...

    Look guys I liked Jurevicius coming out of Penn State and thought he did help Tampa in the Super Bowl in 2001. How old was Joe J then? Its 8 years later and quite a few injuries accumulated by Joe. He also has some family concerns that may be more important than football. We tried to bring in veterans last season with Booker and Lloyd and as soon as they got injured they basically shut it down. Thats how some veterans in the NFL act. They know that this is a business so they start to go into survival mode.

  6. Trust me guys I will not let this die and I really like everyones input. This makes me feel like we can get this accomplished and I really like the fact that we have someone like Pix who has tried this and can give us some good sound advice. If I had to pick an area that I would like to focus on it would be the Midwest and I like watching the MAC conference games because they come on a couple of networks here on my cable provider. I also get quite a few PAC 10 and SEC games on various networks so there are players in those conferences that I may get to see and have a "Fans" opinion of.

     

    I hope I made it clear that I am not to technical with things like hip movement and really focus on if someone passes the eye test in pads in games.

    For example: I can remember when Pix was singing the praises of a guy the Bears signed to the practice squad out of Canada named Israel Idonije. The way Pix had done the research was so impressive that I had to follow this guy just because the way Pix spoke so highly of this unknown prospect.

    Another example was Nfo speaking highly of Devery Henderson when he was coming out of LSU. He recently has posted a follow up about Henderson I think comparing Bears' draft pick Johnny Knox to Henderson and said that Henderson hasn't developed into anything more than a deep threat.

     

    These are the kind of tid bits that everyone here adds to our conversations that leads me to believe that we could do something that would be very exciting.

  7. Per the Bears' website, Earl Bennett is changing his number from 85 to 80. Apparently he wanted to go back to his college number (10) but the NFL won't let you switch from an 80-89 number to a 10-19 number. Seems like a dumb rule to me.

     

    However, he's now got 80, Berrian's old number. The superstitious part of me thinks that could be a good thing. The article also lists the new rookies' numbers, and there are a couple of other familiar ones:

     

    Earl Bennett: 80 (Bernard Berrian)

    Al Afalava: 46 (Chris Harris, Doug Plank)

    Mike Rivera: 59 (Rosevelt Colvin, Ron Rivera)

    Derek Kinder: 83 (Willie Gault)

    D.J. Moore: 30 (Mike Brown)

     

    ...then again, Rashied Davis has Bobby Engram's old number, so maybe it doesn't mean anything.

    Speaking of superstition back in the 70's the Bears had a helluva cover corner named Alan Ellis who wore number 48 and he tangled feet with a WR named Bo Rather who wore number 80 at practice and tore up his knee so that has been a real interesting number. There is even some defensive players who have wore the number.

  8. Sounds good! Would you be in theory looking for posters to pick a guy per se, and then do the bio like your Stafford Example? Maybe have something close to a sign up sheet?

    No since all this would be about guys in your region we would be gathering data about certain players and then like Pix posted we would need someone to edit our data. For instance I can't remember if you were a Purdue fan or not but I can see you maybe being a little more focused on that programs pro prospects.

    I for example attended Western Illinois for a couple of years so I always keep an eye on the Leatherneck prospects like this year Jason Williams the fas LB the Cowboys drafted and RB Herb Donaldson who to this point I'm not sure who he signed with. This program has produced Steelers Safety Mike Wagner in the 70's, Bryan Cox and Aaron Stecker.

    I would want you to do a bio of as many guys you wish and there may be more than one bio about a player and we could do a Kiper-McShay type of thing and list the bio from both guys or even a few guys. Generally you know there may be a slight difference of opinion from two perspectives of someone you have a gauge on. But in most cases the difference could be resolved with the an impartial party(editor) who can make an assessment based on the information provided by whoever. In my case I didn't have to edit anything because it was my point of view.

  9. Guys thanks for the positive response because unlike some of you I didn't play organized football and have actually played baseball and ran track in high school but have been a football fan since the mid 60's. Since the 70's I have been a big fan of the draft and now I'm obsessed with it. I have a job that has me clocked in at 4am and home by noon most of the time so on Saturdays after work I would slumped in front of the TV watching the college games from that time until I fall asleep at night. Some Saturdays I have viewed parts of 8 games from various networks from CBS, ABC, ESPN,FSN,BTN(Big 10) and VS. A lot of these players I have actually seen play live but I'm not going to lie and say I saw a Johnny Knox or a Jarron Gilbert play but guys like Big Ben, Byron Leftwich,Tony Schefler,Chad Pennington,Greg Jennings and even PJ Pope. I saw play because this area gets quite a few MAC games.

     

    What I have in mind has to be totally from eveyrone's perspective for example: I consider myself a couch potato so my guide that I have been giving my friends has been titled The Couch Potato Scout's Draft Guide. My whole concept is that I make some football related comments but most are like I'm sitting in a room full of guys drinking beers saying man dis guyz pretty good. This way I get to follow something I love and talk about it in my language. I could careless if a 300 lb lineman can run 40 yards. Just get in the way of someone for about 5 and1/2 and let the RB shoot past you.

     

    Here's what I say about the number one overall pick:

    Matthew Stafford 6-2 230 Georgia

    He is the best in a weak group and he is an underclassman. He can make all the throws and is a great leader. he is very confident and tends to think his arm will win every challenge. Underclassman QBs tend to struggle in the NFL. Buyer Beware!

     

    I say we do this with no regards to grammar, sentence structure or whatever just say what you feel about a player. I always start my intense research around bowl game time and cap things of with the Combine and internet reports from the pro days. I'm a big advocate of watching Senior Bowl practice because it is conducted by NFL teams and I like watching the East-West Shrine game also. I avoid putting 40 times in because theris sometimes tremendous differences between Combine times and pro day times so I took that out of my guide but I do make reference to a guy if he ran the fastest time at the Combine or if he had a blistering time at his pro day with the comment his stock rose after he ran a xyz at his pro day or at the Combine.

     

    Guys I think we can do this and it will be a lot of fun.

  10. I remember back in the day they had a video of Perry at 300+ jumping up form the floor onto a table. That was 24 years ago. Also we didn't need NFL security to report on Perry's campus exploits. He reportedly consumed 33 beers in one sitting. Lets keep in mind that Fridge was considered overweight most of his career but with the Bears his weight was never over 350. Now we have 300 pound fullbacks in the league. And 260 pound QBs.

  11. I've been talking Bears and football with you guys for aprox. 6 years on 2 sites and know that I would follow you guys to the end of the internet LOL.

     

    For the past 5 years during draft time I have been producing a little generic draft guide based on what I can see on my TV during games and workouts that I can view. Thats why my partipation on this site during draft time has dwindled. I'm busy compiling my unscientific research typing it into my computer and then printing up a few copies for my co workers so they can follow the draft a little better than they would be able to through the newspapers they find in our lunchroom.

     

    So what I'm asking is why not all of us who like this site and love evaluating talent each start contributing to a draft prospect thread at this time of year every year. Though we may not agree on every aspect of a prospects ability we can have some much more informed debates and we can have the satisfaction of doing are own evaluations. I always take you guys tips and comments under consideration when I produce my free guide. The way I do this is unique because I just type it like the guy sitting on the bar stool who loves football btu I clean up the language. LOL Let me know what you guys think about doing this.

  12. I also like #59 as the next Chico? Seems appropriate!

    If I had to guess the number to be changed I would guess Johnny Knox wearing 13 unless he is in the minority of those that don't think the number is unlucky.

  13. Nfo I can pretty much agree with your assessments I might tweek just a couple by comparing Iglesias to Mark Bradley by saying he is not is fast but may be tougher and a better route runner maybe even simlar to another former Sooner Mark Clayton.

     

    Bradley? Honestly, I don't get that comparison. Hell, I would argue the only good point for comparison may be how opposite they are/were.

     

    Bradley never started in college, and was VERY raw. Iglesias is a long term starter, and considered among the most polished and NFL ready WRs in the draft.

     

    Bradley was all about athleticism and speed. Igleasias dropped in the draft due, more than any other single thing, to his lack of speed.

     

    Bradley had questionable hands, at least as a prospect. Iglesias has sticky fingers.

     

    These two WRs are, IMHO, near opposites.

     

    When I think of Freeman I think of N'all Diggs another former Buckeye.Btw this pick seemed oddly similar to Lance Briggs also.I hear a lot of talk about moving other players but do they think Briggs can play the SLB? I do.

     

    While I have seen Diggs play, and remember him, I don't recall him well enough to comment on the comparison.

     

    Briggs at SLB? That would seem like a waste of talent IMHO. Not saying he can't play there, but I just think he would be wasted. Unless we change our scheme, the SLB is simply not a premier position. Rivera used to talk about how the SLB in our system is the grunt player who gets no respect. He has to eat up block to free up the other LBs, cover TEs, basically, the dirty work. The WLB is going to be more of a free lancer rolling to the ball, usually w/ fewer blocks in front of him. Briggs excels in this regard. Maybe Briggs could play SLB, but I just think it would be a waste. He is a pro bowl WLB. Why play him at a position which just doesn't have great upside in our system?

     

    Melton still has me wanting to compare him to Texans 2nd round pick Conner Barwin who has about the same amount of experience at the position

     

    Barwin represents a perfect example of why I am down on Melton. Correct me if I am wrong, but Barwin too was moved late in his college career to DE. In fact, he wasn't moved until his find year, right? Melton was at DE for two years (staring one). But the point is, in that one season at DE for Barwin, he had like 12 sacks and a ton of tackles. Melton? 4 sacks, none of which were that impressive.

     

    Johnny Knox reminds me of a prospect that came out a couple of years ago out of Hampton named Jerome Mathis who the Texans took in the mid rounds an he made an impact as a rookie in the return game.

     

    I think Knox has more upside than Mathis, who did contribute as a return man, but I don't think ever did jack as a WR.

     

    I can only hope that the Bears have found a John Lynch in Afalava.

     

    Not sure if he has Lynch's pure power, which is why I mentioned Aruchuleta, who had more athleticism (which I do think Alfalfa has) combined nice power, but simply lacking coverage skills.

     

    If Kinder can duplicate Marcus Colston numbers I'll be happy.

     

    If any of our WRs could match Colston's numbers, I'd be happy, but I don't think Colston is similar to Kinder. Small difference in size. Colston is a legit 6'4 225-230 and plays even bigger than that.

     

    I had to think about this a bit but Gilbert reminds me of B-Rob. I always thought he should have played inside and never at DE because he wasn't quick enough and he seemed to take plays off at times which seems to be one of the knocks on Gilbert(He doesn't bring it on every play) Thats kind of a similar comment to what was said about Alex Brown coming out.

     

    BRob? BRob was never considered ultra athletic. He had decent athleticism for a man his size, but was never considered "that" athletic.

    Supposedly in the Cover 2 the perfect trio would be 3 WLB type LB's according to Lovie. They are supposed to be interchangeable as is the safeties. Thats what I'm getting at. I once remember you saying that if Briggs wasn't playing next to Urlacher he wouldn't be that good. I guess you've changed that stance.

    I not trying to go contrary to your thoughts but agree with just a litlle different spin on things. For instance you tried to match up body types and 40 times I tried to take players from the same program or a similar draft position or the prototype for the Bears' scheme. Like Iglesias,Bradley and Clayton all former Sooners and Freeman and Diggs from Ohio State. Afalava to Lynch who along with Bob Sanders are both the Best safeties who have recently played in the cover 2 and Kinder and Colston who were both drafted late in the 7th round.

    As for B-Robs athletic ability all I know is when the Bears went to Green Bay the weekend of Payton's death he was athletic enough to block a kick and preserve a rare win at Lambeau during those days. Being athletic at San Jose State or in a swimming pool doesn't translate to Richard Seymour IMO.

     

    Mathis couldn't do jack because he got injured.

    Barwin's sacks were in the Big East which to me had only a couple of good teams with Cinci being one of them. Maybe I should find out how he fared against OT prospect Beatty at UConn. I think both he and Melton should be interesting studies in the coming years. This doesn't mean that I think that was a good pick because I don't. If they are looking for insurance against losing one of the DEs on the roster then I think they should have gotten a more game ready player.

     

    Lets also add Illinois' Will Davis to the list of guys that switched from offense to DE. This one started off at WR and TE and was awesome in their Rose Bowl year but slacked off in his senior year because teams knew more about him and schemed for him.

  14. I keep seeing comments about redzone targets the Bears should go out and get. What the heck is Olsen and Clark? After seeing Cutler highlight TDs with Tony Schefler don't you think we have 2 decent redzone targets on the roster? I love the thought of Cutler drilling the ball in the endzone to either one of these guys. This team played with two TEs a lot so I don't see them going completely away from that. Olsen split out wide would be the same as Jurevicuos except with younger legs and better health. The issue with Plaxico is not the suspension its his sentence for having the unregistered gun that carries minimum 3 year jail term and the New York mayor making noise about no one is above the law. That doesn't sound like he's getting off scott-free.There will be pressure on prosecutors to bring back a conviction with jail time.

  15. First, on Melton, I just do not understand why everything thinks of him, and compares him to, pass rushers.

     

    If anyone wants a player to compare or think about, how about Alex Brown. Did you know the two are identical in size? Both were considered elite in terms of athletic talent leading up to the draft. Brown fell due, in large part, to questions of desire and committment, not to mention attitude. Melton fell due to being raw and a lack of production. But in terms of style, I personally see similarities.

     

    For all the perception, Brown really isn't much in tems of pass rush. He has a couple good games a year where he ups his sack totals, but those players are not the standard. Brown is actually, despite his size, a pretty dang good run defender. His athleticism does not seem to translate to the pass rush, but he does use his athleticism well to stop the run. I would say that is similar to Melton, who was actually pretty decent against the run (Texas as a whole was very good against the run) but against the pass, he was dang near absent. He has a solid lower base and power in his lower body, which helps in levelege and run defense, but the athleticism simply does not translate to pass rush.

     

    If Melton developed in Alex Brown, I think everyone here would be happy. I personally don't think that will happen, but just saying. My thing is, I just don't understand why everything thinks of him as a pass rusher. Michael Johnson was considered a raw talent, but when on the field, the one area he looked great was rushing the passer. Melton? He just never looked good rushing the passer.

     

    Agreed many on the staff should be on notice.

     

    IMHO, Drake should already be gone, but agreed that w/ 3 rookie WRs, as well as still young and developing WRs in Hester and Bennett, Drake has a lot of colors to work w/, but needs to prove he can paint the picture, rather than continue w/ the finger paint job he has been doing.

     

    Lets see. Turner now has a franchise QB, much improved OL, upper tier RB, loads of young talent at WR, and an upper tier TE duo. I am not going to say he has to get our offense into the top 10 instantly, as it may take some time w/ so many new pieces, but our offense needs to be pretty damn good, or we need to find an OC who can make the offense look good.

     

    Marinelli - Not sure he is as on the spotlight. But agree Lovie sure is.

    I have to disagree about your thoughts about Alex Brown. Coming out of Florida Alex Brown was a great pass rusher and was considered lacks in the run game. I can remember watching him wearing number 13 constantly staying in the backfield. I you are comparing him to Brown now you get no arguement out of me. Brown was an all SEC player and Melton is strictly a project and I can't really compare him to any current NFL player who scored touchdowns his first two years at college and then went to defensive end.

  16. Okay, a friend and I were talking about our picks, and what NFL players we might compare them too. Understand, I am not saying our picks will become, are as good, or will end up like those they are compared to. I might see similar traits, or actually feel the upside is comparable. Anyway, here are some thoughts.

     

    Jarron Gilbert

     

    The player that comes to mind for me is Richard Seymour. Gilbert is 6'5 290. Seymour is 6'6 310, but as I recall, Saymour was lighter coming out of college, and gained weight to play in a 3-4, which Gilbert could easily do. Seymour was always considered very athletic and very versatile. I remember the belief that he could play as a true 4-3 DT, 4-3 LDE or a 3-4 DE. I have read the same about Gilbert, who has experience playing all over the DL, and moving to the NFL, could play just about anywhere. He has the frame to easily add some weight to play a position that stresses power, or maintain/reduce weight to play outside. In our system, which stresses ligher/quicker DTs, he likely doesn't need to do much w/ his weight. Seymour shows excellent combination of burst and strength, and I think Gilbert does the same. While the two will play different roles in the NFL, I see similarities in they athleticism/power/versatility.

     

    Juaquin Iglesias

     

    I had been thinking Iglesias somewhere between Booker and Boldin. He has the traits of booker (booker of old) in that he is a great route runner w/ sticky glue hands who always seems to find space, but I think he has better YAC ability than Booker, though not as much as Boldin. Then my friend threw out the name TJ Housyourmama, and it sounds about right.

     

    TJ is 6'1 200, while Iglesias is 6'1 210. Both are considered very good possession or possession plus WRs who lack elite speed. TJ is incredible in route running and hands, and tracks the ball very well. Also, while he is not a threat to to every pass to the house, he does well running after the catch, using both power and field awareness to find space. This is just how I would evaluate Iglesias.

     

    Henry Melton

     

    While I think Melton has a LONG way to go, the player I think about is actually already on the Bears. Alex Brown. Melton is considered very athletic, but due to being so raw and the lack of production, he fell to the 4th round. Brown too was considered very athletic, but due to questions of motivation and committment, as well as attitude, he fell to the 4th round as well.

     

    I have never felt Brown was all that in terms of pass rush. He ends up with 5 or 6 sacks, but often those sacks seem to come in bunches. He will have a game here and there where he does well attacking the QB, but is not what I would consider a consistent pass rusher. Despite his size, Brown is actually solid against the run though. Brown's athleticism translates far better in run defense than in pass rush. I think the same is true for Melton. Melton has a very strong lower base. Just think about a RB. Usually have a solid and strong lower body, especially power runners like Melton was. That can translate to the run defense, where you are using leverage and lower body power to fight off your block and make a play against the ball carrier. His athleticism does not translate however to the pass rush. Despite what he does in shorts, on a track surface, that explosion just wasn't there when the pads went on. Against the run, Melton did pretty well, and was part of a very good Texas run defense. In terms of pass rush though, rarely could he beat his man. He just didn't have the burst to beat his man on the edge, nor the ability to get inside. Solid when the play comes to him (run defense) but just not much when he has to move to the ball (pass rush).

     

    If Melton became Alex Brown, I think everyone would be thrilled. I simply (a) do not see him being the pass rusher many try to make him out to be and (B) think he will take considerable time to develop (if at all) due to just how raw he is.

     

    DJ Moore

     

    This comparison was from my friend, but I like it. Cortland Finnegan (Tenn). Finnigan is listed at 5'10 190, but most say that is a generous 5'10, and more likely in the 5'9 and change range. So while he may be a hair taller, the difference is minimal, and the overall body for the two are very similar.

     

    Finnigan plays a very physical game, despite his size. He plays strong against receivers, and is strong in run support. While short, he plays bigger than he is. All of these are traits I have read about for Moore. Finnigan is a playmaker, as Moore is considered as well. While i am still not 100% on Moore's wagon, I like the comparison, see similarities, and would be absolutely thrilled if this is the sort of player Moore could become for us.

     

    Johnney Knox

     

    The comparison I would make is Devery Henderson. Both are 5'11, and while Henderson is a bit heavier, I believe he too was in the 185-190 range coming out of college. Both are elite speed threats who lacked route running refinement entering the NFL. Henderson has never developed his route running very well, and is still today simply a deep threat WR, but what a threat. This past season, for example, he had only 32 catches, but for nearly 800 yards and nearly a 25 ypc average. Henderson may never be a consistent WR, but as a deep threat, he is tremenous. I think Knox is similar. He has played at a JUCO, and then a DII school, and was able to beat DBs w/ his pure speed, but in the NFL, will have to develop his route running better. Right out of college, he can add a deep dimension to our team, but will likely be a role player, at least initially. One major difference between the two is, Knox is considered to have solid hands, while Henderson drops a lot of balls. Further, while Henderson never really developed his game, Knox I think does have the potential to do so.

     

    Right now, I think Henderson is a good comparison. Deep threat WR who is not consistent. If Knox can develop better as a route runner, the comparison I might throw out there is Joey Galloway, also 5'11 and similar weight/speed. Knox must develop to be like Galloway, which is why I compare him now to Henderson, but whether he turns out to be Henderson or Galloway, either way, I think he could make an impact for us.

     

    Marcus Freeman

     

    Honestly, don't know. Freeman has tremendous athleticism. In fact, he was originally a SLB, but was moved to WLB because (a) he struggled to shed blocks and (B) the team wanted to better utilize his speed and athleticism. I just am not sure who to compare him too, as frankly, many LBs seem to fit such a description.

     

    Al Afalava

     

    Archuleta? Both are nearly idential in height/weight. Both are considered box safeties who lack coverage skills. Arch was essentially a 4th LB on the field. I don't know if Afalava has that sort of upside, but I think their size and playing style are similar.

     

    Lance Louis

     

    No idea. It really depends on what we intend to use him as. Will he be a FB? A blocking TE? An OG?

     

    Derek Kinder

     

    Hines Ward? I guess it depends on whether or not he can return to pre-injury form, but prior to the injury, this is the WR I think he would have compared to. Both 6' 205-215 range. Both lack elite speed, but play a physical style. Solid route running and great hands. While Kinder is coming off a less than stellar season, I love the mental makeup of a kid trying to play coming off an injury. He wasn't 100%, but gave 100%. If he gets back to pre-injury form, this is a comparison I would make (though he would be Ward light). If he can't revert back to pre-injury form, he won't be on the roster, and it doesn't matter.

    Nfo I can pretty much agree with your assessments I might tweek just a couple by comparing Iglesias to Mark Bradley by saying he is not is fast but may be tougher and a better route runner maybe even simlar to another former Sooner Mark Clayton.

    When I think of Freeman I think of N'all Diggs another former Buckeye.Btw this pick seemed oddly similar to Lance Briggs also.I hear a lot of talk about moving other players but do they think Briggs can play the SLB? I do.

    Melton still has me wanting to compare him to Texans 2nd round pick Conner Barwin who has about the same amount of experience at the position

    DJ Moore reminds me a lot of Ahmad Plummer

    Johnny Knox reminds me of a prospect that came out a couple of years ago out of Hampton named Jerome Mathis who the Texans took in the mid rounds an he made an impact as a rookie in the return game.

    I can only hope that the Bears have found a John Lynch in Afalava.

    If Kinder can duplicate Marcus Colston numbers I'll be happy.

     

    I had to think about this a bit but Gilbert reminds me of B-Rob. I always thought he should have played inside and never at DE because he wasn't quick enough and he seemed to take plays off at times which seems to be one of the knocks on Gilbert(He doesn't bring it on every play) Thats kind of a similar comment to what was said about Alex Brown coming out.

  17. I agree.

     

    I think Santa brought the kids a lot of new toys, and if they can't have fun with them, Santa will bring in some new kids to play with 'em. Or at least, I hope so.

    Mad L thats what I'm saying.I think its put up shut up for the whole bunch. If I had to make a judgement on one in particular its Drake the WR coach who I think is stealing. I look at his prized pupil Roy Williams and see his development in the NFL and understand why the Bears are having trouble developing WRs. I also point to Turner also who had trouble earlier when he was here with Wannie. Marcus Robinson was not developed under Turner and he turned out to be a game breaker.

  18. Jets talking to Plaxico. What if we still could get Plaxico Buress to sign with us would we be a better team? IMHO we just need a big body type with the size of Plax for Cutler to throw two.We have a lot of 6 ft guys who can't be used in the red zone with the fade routes.Olsen is the main option. We also have the 6'7 TE Davis but we never use him or the 6'4 Ridaeu. With what we drafted on the defensive side of the ball we should be a better team on D so it will give us more chances to score. With the addition of Plax it gives us bigger targets and creates mismatches all over the field

    I'll put it this way Plaxico is very talented but it is not clear that he won't be locked up or free. Until that is decided it is pointless to talk about him. There is going to be speculation on whether he will be suspended by the commish etc. This team doesn't need that kind of attention on it. All eyes are going to be on Cutler to begin with let him get his number one WR from college up to speed and see what happens. I just remember what happened with Tank while he was on trial and it basically was a circus.

  19. I wanna see how Melton's career goes versus Mr. Versatile Conner Barwin who is also a guy who has limited experience at his drafted position. I think these are similar players who's careers have followed similar paths.

     

    The other thing I want to say is that quite a few on the Bears coaching staff are on notice in mye eyes.

     

    Turner just be cause of the arrival of Cutler

    Drake because he really hasn't developed any WR in his tenure and now has 3 more prospects under his tutelage

    Marinelli because every one is expecting him to be the D-line Messiah

    Lovie who is taking over calling plays this year should have the bullseye on all year.

  20. First of all I have to say that I think that Rashied Davis should be on the bubble when he arrives at TC. After he dropped so many catchable passes last season he needs to compete for a roster spot.

     

    Second I believe that the quickest way for a rookie to make an impact is on returns and that is why my pick is Johnny Knox. He is one of the guys that I thought the Bears would target all along so I have to stick with him.

     

    Third and final I do believe that Lovie was not happy with the product of the SLB which is why Hunter was replaced by Roach when he was injured. Usually starters never lose their jobs due to injury. Hunter did. I felt Roach was nothing special so I think that a prospect like Freeman has a chance.

  21. Yeah,

     

    I think the starters will be Earl and Bullocks, with the backups being Payne and Alfalfa(sp). I think Steltz needs to beat out Alfalfa. The good thing is that there will be alot of compitition at some of the back up spots. Louis vs Davis at 3rd TE. I think Gilbert vs Dusty. The trio of WR vs Davis, Rideau, etc. Melton vs Baldwin. Freeman vs Hilly, Roach, and Williams.

     

    Good stuff to look at during training camp.

    I'm trying to figure out why Louis would be competition for Davis when he was an OG in college which means he would be a project at the position.

  22. Because for some bat shit reason, our staff actually likes McKie. God I hope we grab Southerland as a UDFA.

    Sutherland is coming off a broken foot and must prove he is healthy. I would like them to go after Javorskie Lane. Who can be a relief as a ball carrier for Forte.

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