CrackerDog

Tice is a troll. His brain is the size of a pea. His using the word "elite" means nothing since he could've meant to use one of 10,000 other words and they just didn't come to him while the synapses of his brain fizzled. With that said, this grunting giant dope is going to be one hell of an O Line coach. Face it, they're all oafs. They speaka his language.

I have no problem with the Cutler trade. He didn't live up to expectations but I still love the deal. The Gaines Adams deal made no sense.

I think you guys are NUTS! If JA proved anything with this draft he proved he blew the SAME position picks in recent drafts. This is ONLY made better if we sommehow bring in Faneca and these crapshot guys in the secondary we drafted pan out. Tice should be able to coach up the OL but you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. RD3 - Major Wright FS - OK pick. We were lucky he fell to us. I think he'll fit the system well. RD4 - Corey Wooten DE - Hasn't JA learned from picking injury prone players yet? RD5 - Joshua Moore DB - I hope he can play corner. I'm sick of drafting nicklebacks who suck donkey cock. RD6 - Dan LeFavour QB - Sure, I like the kid. It was a great scene in suburban Chicago when he was picked. But we need a #2 and that's going to be a veteran. That means we'll tie up 3 spots for QB. When you have a guy like Cutler, you should beef up the line to protect him and expect he'll play every game. Let me ask you, how many times have the Colts had a #3 QB on the roster during Manning's tenure? RD7 - J'Marcus Webb OT - Probably won't make the team. Not that many #7's do. We should've went for the center from Notre Dame who went 2 picks after we picked the QB. He's got real potential and under Tice would've been someone we could count on when old man Olin dies on the field. You know I'm usually a very positive koolaid drinker but damn if I can find it in me to like this bunch.

Angelo needs to get fired if the O Line sucks like I think it's going to SUCK.

My question is, assuming this season goes off without a renewal of the CBA and there is no resolution to the problems keeping ownership and players from agreeing, could we see scab football again in 2011? I was reminded of that horror by the fact that Peyton was our QB back during the CareBear era. Is there something in labor law that would prevent that this time around or can the owners declare a deadlock and hire scabs to fill the uniforms and break the union?

The only problem I have with Turner's firing is that it took a year or two too long to do. As for Martz, this is a one year experiment for the entire staff. If things don't come together quickly, the whole shooting match is going to hell. And the Bears may actually hope 2011 is a year without football. They could bring in Cowher and have him slowly put his pieces in place. With that said, I'm excited about the Bears next year and I wouldn't have been with Turner at OC. At least it'll be different. Perhaps not better. Time will tell. Nothing will improve unless we get some horses in the O Line and the D backfield. Hell, I called for Hester to be traded or cut and now with Martz on board, the kid may have a lot of upside. Who knows. Forte should get back to form in 2010 assuming he's healthy. The O is no longer the biggest concern. This defense is old and doesn't have a lot of depth or headline talent.

Nice list, toolbox.

What is this? It takes forever to load and I've got a T1 here.

If they hire Tice at OC it'll mean they expect to fire everyone at the end of next season. This is the only clear signal I could see here. And I'll boycott the team for a season if I expect they're just throwing in the towel.

As you know, I try to remain an optimist when it comes to the Bears. Here are a few thoughts that may help you remain one too. So, have at it, I'm not happy with what I've seen from these guys for the last few years either, but here are the things that keep me hopeful for next season... We needed a new OC. I don't think anyone here was in love with Turner. Now we'll get one. And hopefully whoever it is will be able to make the best of our new QB. Cutler seems to be involved in this process. This can be a good thing or a bad thing. You don't want the inmates running the asylum but he did seem to be right, all along, about DA. What the heck, let him pick an OC or his QB coach from the pool out there. Can't hurt. Probably. Say what you want about Lovie's lack of fire on the sideline, I defy anyone to name a coach who would've done much better than 7-9 with this offensive line and as many injuries as we had on defense. Face it, losing your franchise MLB on opening day doesn't make it a picnic for the rest of the year. We found two new WR's this year who could develop into real stars. When's the last time you could feel that way about this team? Olsen grew a ton this year and our O Line came together toward the end of the season. I'm not giving up on the Lovie Cover Two scheme like many of you already have. You need the horses to run it. Maybe Lovie and JA will find a new DC that Lovie feels comfortable enough with that he'll be allowed to be somewhat independent in his decision making. That was Rivera's issue, IMO, Lovie didn't have a track record with him and he questioned his calls despite the results. Lovie always felt he would've done better. AND, the last few years may have been humbling enough for Lovie that he'll be more tolerant of non-Lovie type decisions. Marinelli may work on him to run more line stunts, etc. The leadership of this team is now on a short leash. They know it. Some folks do their best work under the gun. We'll see. Worst case, Jerry and Lovie are unemployed next year at this time. Best case, they'll have been given some new toys to play with in the off season, via free agency, and they'll have vindicated ownership's vote of confidence. Also along these lines, if they do succeed, what happens in most places is your staff is raided for talent and you lose your best coordinators to the marketplace. But these guys will have all proven themselves to be failures as head coaches. I know that sounds funny when you say it but if they work well together (assuming some of the rumors are true about who we're bringing in, etc.) we'll be able to keep this band of misfits together. Well, guys, that all I got. I look forward to the second day of the draft and the minicamps. Until then you probably won't hear much more from me.

It's their team. Ownership has its privilege. Of course they'd be consulted.

I generally don't agree with Jason but I do here. And in my opinion, this is a one to two year experiment anyway. My only concern is Martz is probably a better indoor guy than out. You aren't going to throw it around like crazy in December in Chicago. With that said, I think Martz is smart enough to realize this. I'd welcome his being hired by the Bears.

Giving away a 2 for him was ridiculous. I hope he pays off in the long run but you shouldn't have had to pay that high a price for him. Hester is nothing more than an overpaid slot guy. If you bring in the right OC then this position may have value and I'd keep him. But he's lost a step as a return man and isn't ever going to blossom as a #1 WR. I'd have feelers out to see what we could get for him.

Sorry I've been missing in action for a while. Didn't feel like I had anything constructive to say so I didn't say anything at all. Now that it's over, I think we need to see this team address the following: 1.) Repair the O Line through free agency. I sure wish I knew who was out there but this is (and has been) my number one concern. Having no first or second round choices this year sure isn't going to help. 2.) Determine who it was that was responsible for Devin A being unseen for the vast majority of the season and fire that guy. I'm not sure if this is Turner or Lovie but I sure recall Cutler lobbying for him during the preseason and it took all year to happen. 3.) Trade Hester for whatever you can get. I'd take as low as a 5th rounder for him but would hope for a 4th. 4.) Sign Boldin and put him opposite DA and/or Knox. Keep Bennett for a backup but he isn't my starter. 5.) I think the Ron Turner era needs to end. 6.) Find out from the medical staff if Urlacher and Pisa have the ability to return and contribute for at least a few more seasons. If not, you should trade these guys too. I hope for the best for each of them and want them back but you can't waste any more time here either. 7.) Our DB's are bad in general. I have no clue how you address all the things I mentioned above and still find a way to fix this. In short, we're rebuilding and it kills me that we finally have our QB (I still like Jay a lot) and we're in this pitiful situation elsewhere on the team. 8.) Forte and Olsen are keepers. We've even found a solid backup RB. When's the last time someone said the Bears were solid at the "Skilled Positions" but were weak on D and in the front lines. 9.) Tommy can't be relied on. I'm not going to say cut him because you don't find DT's growing on trees. But damn, other than last weekend, he's been a disappointment. 10.) Jerry Angelo probably needs to be fired. I've been his biggest defender but this team is a clusterfuck right now and I can't blame anyone more than him. Our 7-9 record is deceiving, we're not very good. A lot of teams just plain suck worse than us. That's nothing to be proud of. Maybe it's time for a complete house-cleaning. Damn, I still don't have anything nice to say. I hope you all had great holidays.

We're going to get embarrassed today. The only good that may come from this is maybe, just maybe, Turner will be fired. We haven't scored in the first quarter ALL SEASON with Jay Cutler at QB. The defense sucks but they have multiple excuses. Half the team is injured. But the offense has no excuses. This SHIT is inexcusable.

Really? Who gives a shit? Mike Golic hasn't picked the Bears all season on Mike and Mike. I don't think he picked the Bears in our Superbowl season a few years back more than a time or two. I still enjoy the Mike and Mike show. Atlanta is at home and they beat us last year. The "experts" are going with the easy pick here. Doesn't mean the Bears don't get any respect or that we can't win. It means nothing.

Ain't gunna happen.

If Bradley ever took off her skirt I'd care more. Berrian is the only one on the list worth discussing and he left because of our cap situation, to my recollection.

Well then... Work at work and play at home. I think I'll be switching it soon anyway. It's just nice knowing that every post I make will be opened although I believe the distraction part means most of the time my message isn't actually read.

ST is probably the last area to see improvement as a team emerges from massive suckitude. It takes a while to develop that bench depth that delivers the ST's coach guys who can actually play. At this stage, Detroit is focused on skill position players and in finding guys who can help keep Stafford alive. As they rebuild, they'll find those guys. With that said, I've always claimed that the difference between great teams and average teams in the league wasn't a huge gap in talent. And I'd say the same thing for teams that suck and average teams. I think this is proven out year after year when we see teams go from a few wins to competing for playoff spots the next. And the other way around too. Detroit has beaten the odds, however, in that they've SUCKED for a lot longer than most.

Sad but true. But... I think the execution improved so dramatically in the second half and in the following games, for me, it was lack of preparation. And not "Rex Grossman wanting to party on New Years Eve" lack of preparation but rather "Coach Turner really screwed the pooch" type of lack of preparation. None of this will matter if we don't get healthier. You can prepare these guys very well but if you don't have the horses, you're not going to compete. And in this regard, I give the coaching staff a lot of credit. We've won 3 games with lots of excuses not to.

I assume Colombo's was a lot worse but have you heard something about Stafford's? Colombo had pretty bad nerve damage with his. PS. I won't wish injury on any player, not even a Packer, since I believe it carries with it bad karma. With that said, now that the injury has occured, I don't really "feel bad" for him either. Not that I hope it's a really bad long term injury or anything but it isn't my worry either. We've got our own guys to feel bad for and plenty of them are injured too.

The first game it was that we weren't prepared on offense at all and Cutler looked lost. So I blame that on coaching. So, did we "not adjust" in game one until halftime... Not sure. We dragged our feet in game four to be certain. Against Seattle they had a second string QB in there and while they couldn't close the deal on lots of drives, they had an easy time of it against our ill-prepared D for the most part. They earned my respect a touch for the Pitt game because we were much better prepared entering the game but we'd just come off playing a 3-4 so we damn well should've been. Hey, 3-1 is as good as we could've hoped for before the season began. But I don't think Green Bay is even the best team we've played and we found a way to lose to them. I want these guys better prepared and then I want to see coaches reacting more quickly. But I admit it's tough to do when you're working with a bunch of second teamers, particularly on D.

Very well said NFO and as long as those lessons are driven home, I'm with you 100%. Also, there's actually a Youtube on this and you can see the ball as it drops hits the goal line. And he's dropping it from behind himself. So, although it's still REALLY stupid and should never happen again, I can't agree that it's completely clear that he fumbled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdL2nvzVXA I'm not sure you can drop the ball on the goal line from behind yourself and have it land on the goal line if you aren't already across the line. It's REAL close...

I'm thrilled our team isn't one dimensional anymore. We can give up 24 points and still win. It wasn't so much Cutler and the offense but ther special teams guys yesterday and some second half defense. But if you can get the guys inspired at halftime, you should be able to do it during the pregame too. Coming out flat isn't an option. And with all the injuries we've suffered, it'll be a full team effort to continue to win.