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as much as i dislike hard head i agree with you. we should have been knocking his door down to hire him. same ole same ole.

i CAN argue that his choices for OC are many and varied in quality. the best one LEFT after one year. he went through 2 or 3 others in his five years there. not only that but look at the stats for nearly every category on offense. to me i doesn't look like it's getting any better. his choices for OC are just hired up through the same staff. sound familiar? if it wasn't for henry his RB going insane in rushing yards (although they declined also every year) a passing game surely wouldn't have been even close to stellar. look at where they finished in the league in passing stats. so much for bringing in the best OC's. he inherited a playoff team his first year!! so 4 OC's to groom a primo draft pick in williams to become a probowl player is nothing to you?? that's not stability, that's insanity. we do that every time we get a qb with supposed potential. also find the stats for the titans defense in those years. i didn't go that far because i really don't care. why don't you? his last 2 years there were dismal and that is why he got fired. now we think we can do it better with him? nearly all his time there his offensive passing game was in the dumpster. as i said before, the ABSOLUTE goal is to groom our generational qb to play for us for 10-15 YEARS. not walk backwards into a couple of wildcard playoff games and mess up (if we haven't already) williams with a steady turnstyle of second quality offensive coaches.

ok, these stats could be adjusted. i just didn't want to spend forever doing this. that said, give me johnson any day of the week from what is listed here. we have had a Vrabel in chicago about every 6-8 years. deja'vu all over again. If I am wrong show me. STATS FOR VRABEL: Vrabel Stats HC Titans AFC South - 2018-2023 - 5 years Record: Reg Season - 54-45 Post Season - 2-3 Total: 56-48 2017 - Playoffs under HC Mike Mularkey. Titans defeated in 2nd wild card game. 2018 - 9-7 - Their most yards of total offense in 2018, with 4,998 yards. HC Vrabel - Inherited a playoff team OC Matt LaFleur - Jan 2019 after 2018 season was hired by Packers as HC - One year tenure with Vrabel. QB - Quarterback Marcus Mariota had a difficult season, going 7-6 as a starter, throwing 11 touchdowns to eight interceptions, and missing three games due to injury. Backup quarterback Blaine Gabbert started three games, including the season finale against the Colts in which the Titans were eliminated from the playoffs. RB - Running back Derrick Henry, who rushed for 1,059 yards and 12 touchdowns. This would be the first of Henry's three-straight 1,000-yard seasons. Rank Offense 2019 - 9-7 - 6th Seed - Wild Card to AFC Championship Game - Lost to KC OC - Arthur Smith QB - 2–4 start resulting in the benching of quarterback Marcus Mariota, the Titans turned their season around with ex-Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill in game 7. 2020 - 11-5 - Division Title (tied record with Colts) - Beaten in first round of playoffs by Ravens 20-13 OC - Arthur Smith DC - Mike Vrabel decided not to hire a defensive coordinator for the season. QB - Tannehill - 24 sacks - 3,819 yds. 65.5 Pct. Team ranked 23rd in passing yards. 30th in passing attempts. RB - Derrick Henry rushed for 2,027 yards. 2021 - 12-5 - Won division (Colts 9-8, Texans 4-13, Jaguars 3-14) They fell to the Cincinnati Bengals, 19 to 16, in the 2021 AFC divisional game. OC - Todd Downing - former tight ends coach On January 15, 2021, Titans offensive coordinator Arthur Smith was hired by the Atlanta Falcons to be their head coach after Smith helped the Titans reach franchise-high offensive production in 2020 DC - Shane Bowen QB - Tannehill - 3,734 yds - Pct: 67.2 RB - Henry 937 yds. NET Ranks: Passing Yds - 30th; Pass ATT - 30th; Pass AVG - 18th; SCK - 18th; SCKY - 16th; Pen 1 DWN - 20th; PEN - 8th; PEN YDS - 9th 2022 - 7 - 10 - 2nd in AFC South, 11th in the AFC. No Playoff spot. OC - Todd Downing - Fired Jan 2023; On January 9, 2023, the Titans fired offensive coordinator Todd Downing, offensive line coach Keith Carter, secondary coach Anthony Midget, and offensive skill assistant Erik Frazier.[3] Under Downing in 2022, the Titans' offense was 30th in the league in yards and 28th in points-per-game. QB - Tannehill - 2,536 Yds. - 12 Games Played DC - Shane Bowen RB - Henry - 1,538 yds Net Rank: PTS - 26th; YDS - 29th; PLY - 30th; AVG - 23rd; Rush Yds - 3rd; Passing Yds - 32nd; Pass Att - 32nd; Pass Avg - 19th; Sck - 25th 2023 - 6-11 - Bottom of AFC South - No Playoff Spot OC - Tim Kelly - Passing game coordinator Tim Kelly was promoted to offensive coordinator, DC - Shane Bowen QB - Tannehill - 1,616 yds; Started 8 Games Played in 10 games. RB - Henry 1,167 rushing yards Lg Rank Offense PF - 27th; Yds - 28th; Passing Yds - 29th; Passing Att - 30th 2024 FIRED

no on EVERY count. 1. how often do we pick a franchise quality qb #1 overall? how often during our entire 100+ years in the nfl? this is the brass ring. we need the best there is to form this rookie into a HOF qb if he has the talent. i really don't care what the record is during this development. in 3 years these are the KEY years to learn from the best to develop the mindset that will last a long career. if you hire a vrable it is a super unknown what we get as an OC and qb developer and for how long. why gamble the absolute most IMPORTANT player on your roster who could contribute for 15 YEARS? we have been to TWO freaking superbowls in over 50 YEARS and lost one of them due to poor qb play. 2. johnson appears to understand the correlation between a GOOD offensive line and qb development. isn't that a prerequisite? to believe caleb will "shine thru" with a "decent or average" OC is absurd. that is how the chicago bears have destroyed qb's or never even found one for multiple decades. 3. another absurd statement... "A good defense and running helps Caleb just as much as a perfect OC." we have had some pretty good defenses over the years. WHAT qb's are you talking about that this helped them as much as a perfect OC or even a competent one? where are our rings?

ok i am going to chime in on this... if anyone thinks johnson is a primo OC this is the HC we need to hire. even if he fails as a HC he will/should turn caleb into the qb we expected when we picked him #1 inside that 3 year period he is here as a HC. this would be a qb that should play for us for 10-15 years. this is the most important aspect of who we choose right now. williams need someone to build him into a top 5 qb the right way and it appears johnson can do it.

dude, if you have refs that are tuned into calling penalties in a game it doesn't have to be one designated play at a designated time script. it's the concept of changing important drives/play outcomes and scores during the game (usually early in games) that influences the percentages in key situations that give a team the advantage overall. that is how gambling works, on percentages. if refs take away sure points from a team they want to by calling penalties it effects the ENTIRE game. such as... if they call a red zone penalty and change it from the possibility of a TD into a FG that is a HUGE influx of who wins and who loses and how the rest of the game is choreographed by the coordinators. if one team gets behind by multiple scores or misses scoring because of penalties don't you think that effects the type of play calling used by the team that is down? it creates an offset percentage of high risk vs. high percentage attacking defense or offensive calls. this is a FACT.. penalties stall drives and force punts or FG rather than TD's more times than not. there is no debate that this is true. as a whole, the refs in one unit could be working together to effect outcome or even if it was just one ref in the unit it could be done the same way as i stated. the rules are so ambiguous that the other refs can't challenge a call that is correct/bad either way or a NON call such as a PI or holding call. it is scripted by the NFL rule book GIVING the refs the power to call a game any way they want to without being wrong. in any case explain why it is so bad. what is your take on why there is such diversity game to game, team to team. if bad or non calls are plainly obvious to fans shouldn't the people being paid to do this job know it too? shouldn't the freaking LEAGUE, the freaking NFL know this too? do you really think they are that stupid? to do nothing when it is clearly obvious to anybody with even half a brain that they know nothing is ludicrous. when was the last time any refs were reprimanded or fired by the NFL? does the NFL investigate any of these refs in question? inquiring minds want to know. EDIT: "There is no overall conspricy by refs to overturn games." and you know this is a fact? clue me in. where are are your sources to state that?

the unfair advantage that comes with winning? if what i stated is true it is more than that. it is determining WHO is winning by a source other than actual play on the field.

the packers are certainly one team that clearly gets preferred treatment from the refs game to game. it is so clearly obvious i don't know how these ref teams even keep their jobs. roughing the passer is a joke especially when it involved rogers or favre. i remember cuttler getting beat to a pulp after the ball was released with no flags at all. same with bears crucial holding penalties and DB's pass inter. any team playing the bears has the luxury of the 12th man on the field. it also relates to other teams in the league like KC, used to be NE and others.

GOOD FOOTBALL?? maybe, maybe not... this is a MAJOR problem in today's NFL: the 12th man on the field, the referee's. Over the last 15+ years professional football has nearly (if not truly) become an exhibition rather than a sport. maybe similar to all star wrestling where the outcome is preordained. especially since the NFL has locked in step with professional gambling. who is REALLY paying the refs salaries? in my opinion only, the refs can and are shaving points and actual outcomes of who wins and who loses. this brings the outcomes to the vegas gambling syndicates determining the final outcomes of score and wins and losses. the NFL itself has done nothing, if not actually promote, this scenario in multiple ways. 1. a multi BILLION dollar corporation still will NOT hire permanent full time professional referee's who are accountable for their actions. this in itself is a very curious scenario. ask yourself why? who are the watchdogs over this very important aspect of the NFL. are they proclaiming to just be saving money? that sure doesn't wash with me. in the past ANY gambling aspects related to professional sports was not only frowned upon but actively attacked by the leagues whether they be baseball, football or any other major sport. now they are promoted in ads during the games. 2. the NFL actually promotes point shaving and referee misconduct. they have made the rules so ambiguous that nearly ANY call or non call is correct. this leaves the refs to regulate the flow of the game and the final scores and outcomes. to me it seems clear, early in the games whatever team that they may project to win receives multiple calls, non calls, at critical junctions in critical drives in their favor. these shadow calls non-calls could happen multiple times throughout the game on both sides but are not done so. usually this occurs when a game pivot point is happening. then to 'smooth' over these critical calls against one opponent they start flagging the other opponent when the game is usually in hand by who they wish to be effected. why you ask, would they do this? the simple answer is MONEY. it's TV rights/marketshare, advertising kickbacks, NFL product sales, fan attendance, superbowl market money and yes, kickbacks from the gambling circuits who pay for NFL advertising and logo rights and probably much, much more. so ask yourself... is what you are watching real sports or just a money making projection?

an organization that is competent like any other business. an organization that understands professional football and how to maintain high quality players and staff. OUR OWNERS: should be by now smart enough to know they know NOTHING about how to operate a successful franchise. let intelligent football people run the show and stay out of anything to do with football operations until the people they hire as president are proven to be bad and for keerist's sake FORGET/DELETE polians phone number. better yet sell to mark cuban. PRESIDENT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS: has to understand how the nfl works and how an individual franchise SHOULD function. his job is to hire a GM and let him do the job a GM is paid to do. the day he hires a GM he should have a board with every name on it to replace the GM if he fails or if he retires or dies. keep this board updated every season with eyes on experienced GM's and up and coming ones. he shouldn't be waiting until it reaches critical mass to start looking for replacements, he should have them now. observe how other successful franchise GM's operate and use this as a sounding board on evaluating the one he hired or ones he would intend to hire. his job also involves keeping the facilities in modern updated condition for staff and players. GM: 1. his first and foremost job is to hire a head coach without ANY interference from the president or owners. input maybe but no strings attached to who he can go after. when he is hired let HIM decide who if any of the current coaches he wants to retain or fire. if he wants them all gone... adios. the minute he hires a HC he should be looking for his replacement. he too needs a board with the names of the BEST coaches he can hire if it goes off the rails. not only existing coaches who become available but all coaches even under contract plus the up and coming coordinators/coaches. if he decides to terminate a HC he shouldn't have to wait a new york minute deciding who to replace him with. salary holdover should never be a consideration. also he needs to evaluate how other coaching staffs are operating, especially the good ones, and infuse this into the entire process of evaluation. if a rare good one comes up get rid of the mediocre or bad staff and go after him now. 2. the same as above in regards to the scouting department for both college and pro. again a board with the names of the best and most successful out there. if they become available GET THEM. it's his job to improve this team to win superbowls not just make the playoffs or any other consideration. just win. his lifeblood will rely on the draft so get it right. this also holds true to free agent acquisitions. have a board with names and use it. if one comes up pull the trigger even if you have to replace an average player with one who is excellent. just do it!!! 3. support staff. his job is to evaluate every aspect on where his franchise support employee's fit into making this a first class organization from the HC to the water boy. realize the buck stops with him. if the team fails it's on his shoulders. all this said, i am sick to death of this mom and pop franchise that NEVER realizes their mistakes or learns from them. it's just the same crap. they hire someone else (usually unqualified) to think for them and then muddy up the waters with stupid input and restrictions on who they hire for ANY position. they are so out of touch with how anything should operate in the nfl it's like putting on a blindfold and throwing darts at the wall. by the time they make decisions,good or bad, the time has past them by to even implement them. to put it frankly, they are STUPID and it seems they are proud of it. i have wasted decades watching this same crap over and over again. different this and that, different day, different season, same results.

does this sound FAMILIAR? "However, a new wrinkle emerged recently via David Kaplan o ESPN 1000. It was all but confirmed that Poles and Eberflus were an arranged marriage. Team chairman George McCaskey had a short list of names he liked and allowed Poles to choose from it. He chose Eberflus. Another top Bears insider has since backed this up. Bill Zimmerman of Windy City Gridiron revealed that the Eberflus hire was almost exclusively spearheaded by McCasky and advisor Bill Polian. Poles merely had the illusion of choice." "This was a hire that was doomed from the start. The Bill Polian GM and Head Coach search was always flawed. Don't pin this hire on Ryan Poles. If you want to criticize him for the Mat Eberflus hire.That was not him. That was Bill Polian and George McCaskey. Sure, Ryan Poles gave it a rubber stamp, but what was he supposed to do? Pound the table for Jim Caldwell? The list of finalists was poor and when you pick from a bad list, you'll end up with a bad coach." Eric Lambert - Sports Mockery https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/another-bears-insider-confirms-growing-ryan-poles-buzz/ if this article is true it's the same ole same ole BS. the dumbest owners in the history of ANY professional sports franchise weighs in yet again. also if true, how does bill polian keep making garbage choices for this franchise? how many of his GENIUS picks have been even close to being even good let alone great?? it's like polian really hates the mccaskey's and the chicago bears and just keeps sticking knives into this franchise and has for decades. i wouldn't hire polian to pick a pop warner coach if there was only one candidate in a one team league.

if all this is remotely true (and i would not doubt it) it's the same crap that has gone on from this family owned franchise at LEAST since 1980 (finks leaving and muggs halas dying). this family who have been owners of this franchise for over a hundred years know absolutely NOTHING about how to run and manage a professional football team. it's the same shite year after year after year. they just can't keep from sticking their fat, dirty, greasy fingers into the pie in some way or another. it's almost hard to believe how little these people understand anything sports related except how to milk money out of this franchise at the players and fans expense. mike mccaskey gone? nope just another halfwit named mccasky running this franchise into the ground with childish, stupid, bass ackward decisions.

20 mil for a guard per year??? that would destroy the cap.

we have a player on this team that could get the best information on qualifications of belly there is... caleb williams. supposedly tom brady has been mentoring him? if so this would be a hard yes or no depending on brady's evaluation to caleb. that said, there are few coaches in the nfl present or past i dislike as much as belly. he is a cheater which makes him a liar and a thief. at least half of his superbowl wins should have been taken away from the pats and given to their opponents for cheating. his resume also is incredibly dismal. take away drew bledsoe and tom brady and see what his record looks like as a head coach. almost anyone can coach a team with HOF and very good qb's to winning records.

again, i know nearly nothing about the actual real play requirements as you and ashkum are putting forth, but, here are the pluses... 1. size 2. arm length 3. quickness - he certainly would fit the description a pulling guard would require - he can get to the second level as a blocker 4. he supposedly is a good run blocker 5. he would not have the lateral movement or assignments a tackle has for DE's. this SHOULD help him with the type of assignments required by a guard? EDIT: being required as tackle to have good lateral movement, shouldn't this also be a plus with him in the guard position on stunts or blitz's?