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Everything posted by Alaskan Grizzly
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Why the hell is our JV team better than the Varsity? Lol
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This is the zone offense talked about but never used until now.
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For the record, I love me some Christian Jones.
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Is John Fox a rookie coach? Letting Trubisky go out and get a delay of game call? WTF?
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This... and Deonte Thompson are my top receiving picks.
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Because I’m drinking some Corona and eating some home made Quesoritos; is there any question how good a coach Dave Toub is? Tareek Hill just ran a punt back for another TD. Hester 2.0
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Im actually taking time off to watch the game (game starts 4:30 here). May have to invest in some Maughivelian(sp?) for a victory toast!!! (So I hope) Really look forward to tomorrow night. (As I watch Watson impress on Sunday night).
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For what it's worth, I was more a 'post-draft displeaser' of Trubisky. Although I made no secret I liked Watson better, The Biscuit is starting to grow on me and I really hope for him to succeed. Our team needs it.
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I'll drink to that.
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Says the guy who used several stanzas to write 'some think he should wait, others think he should've started immediately'. LOL At the end of the day, who cares? He starts Monday.
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The point Jason and I agree on is that Trubisky was/is the 2nd overall pick from this year's draft and should be ready to go...now. If he wasn't ready to start on day one when would he be ready? How would anyone know he was ready until he started and actually played? He doesn't have a whole lot of game film, never mind in the NFL, but even in college to fall back on to instill confidence in anyone. Sure Pace and Fox got to see him work out individually under the cover of darkness and 'liked' what they saw but the same could be said several months earlier about Glennon and look where that got us. Goff got time to wait because LA's #1 (Case Keenum) started off hot. Then after teams started studying film and whatever other factors figured in he started to suck. Goff was forced into duty based on that fall from grace. Not all that different than the situation in Chicago. Only real difference, at this point, is that Glennon sucked sooner. Goff came out and certainly didn't look like a #1 overall pick...last year. This year, different story. Do you think Trubisky will come out and 'save the franchise' in his first start? How about his second or third or even before this season ends? My guess is probably not. What he will do is give everyone (himself included) a chance to see whether he can make the change and be the difference maker our team needs. It won't happen overnight, it may not even happen this year. But we need to know now rather than later. Yes DeShone Kizer may be getting 'crushed' but maybe HE wasn't ready to make the change now. Will he ever? Only time will tell. Another former first rounder, Jay Cutler, was never able to get his act together....and he had several chances to prove himself. Is Trubisky destined for that type of career? We would hope not but won't know until he plays.
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And oddly enough Victor Cruz predicted this would happen...almost a day before it did. That might have been a 'clue' as well. And my answer to the question in this article is 'yes'. https://beargoggleson.com/2017/10/04/chicag...ck-victor-cruz/
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Goff started week 9 (?) after the original starter, Keenum, committed numerous turnovers in a 5 game span (where have we heard that before?) Goff was not spectacular coming out of the gate, in fact he barely threw anything over 20 yards...but got that much valued and much needed NFL experience. Difference between he and Trubisky? (Other than one year of separation between them). Goff has that 'half season' of experience, Todd Gurley and two new WR's in Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins and a new HC. Will Chicago use this model to develop Trubisky? Time will tell.
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The loss at ATL was not on Glennon; plain and simple. Two of the three last ditch throws to win the game were either right on or close enough. The receivers in both instances; Bellamy and Howard just didn't produce. There's a whole lotta 'what ifs' that could've played into how the Bears got to that point but had Trubisky been in the same exact situation I doubt it would've been much different. The only factor that may have played to his favor would've been his mobility where he could have run in instead of thrown. As far as the rest of the games, already played and going forward is still an unknown. Sure he (Trub) adds another dimension but we have yet to see him in full NFL mode. Preseason is one thing and looks good but really its only a minor step up from the combine where football players perform in tshirts and shorts (meaning not realistic). And comparing he and Watson is not really fair to Trubisky...yet. Trub doesn't have two national championship appearances (with one win) and actual NFL playing time to his resume. Give it a few weeks. I'd say we're more an 8-8 team with him than one extreme or the other.
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Gotta side with Jason on this one. It's pretty common practice your first round players (especially skill players and especially if they're picked in the top 5 - maybe even top 10) are expected to start almost immediately. Look at our last few 1st rounders; Floyd and White and tell me neither was expected to sit on the bench and ferment. I get that in theory a potential franchise QB might be better off sitting on the bench but really are we all so sure Trubisky is franchise QB material? What if he goes out and stinks if up worse than Glennon and we end up picking in the top 5 next year? Would you think we might need to consider looking at another your QB (something Pace has said he'd do if necessary) from a class or strong QBs? Starting him now is what's right.
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Not sure I think they're five weeks late, but probably could've pulled the trigger sooner. In the Atlanta game Glennon did pretty well (all things considered) and nearly won the game. Had it not been for drops by Howard and Bellamy at the very end of the game, we would have had a different thought of him going into week two. I think against the Bucs they were wanting to see how well he would do then gauge whether they should consider moving forward. However when he turned the ball over twice in that game it should've started bells going. Maybe in week three they were worried about putting Trubisky against the Steelers? Who knows (when was it they actually declared him #2?). But by week four (last week) they really should've known things weren't going to go well. I mean of his 15 completions in the Pittsburgh game only one was to a WR.
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Except that in this case you have a pocket passer (Glennon) playing in what appears to be a zone-style offense. Without knowing what type offense he ran in TB I can only go off of what I have seen with his time in Chicago. We know Loggains (and Gase before) prefer the mobile QB zone offense because they talked about it when Cutler was with the Bears. They never really depoloyed it too much (or Cutler didn't run it right) but nevertheless, its become painfully obvious that Trubisky and Glennon right now are different style QB's. Could Trubisky some day become a pocket passer? Sure. But right now he's not. The fact that Pace and company didn't identify that sooner concerns me. Anyhow, from the looks of things it would seem they have a QB that can actually run the style of offense they want to run. After the Atlanta game it was pretty obvious to most that Glennon simply wasn't comfortable playing his part. Is that Loggains fault for not catering to his style of play? Probably, but again, at this point its too late. Time to move on. FWIW Deshaun Watson was available well after our original 3rd pick.
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I think the Bears will have the edge on defense, mostly depending on how well Trubisky does. I predict a big game for Deonte Thompson. But their #2 QB Keenum is having a career year with 755 yards passing / 3 TDs / 0 INTs and a 94.4 passer rating. Their #2 running back? Latavius Murray. One year removed from a Pro Bowl. Our guys cannot go to sleep on them. If the D plays like they did against Pittsburgh then they might fare pretty good
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I think, as discussed before, we go in knowing Goff was put into a very similar situation last year and set our expectations there; we'll be pleasantly surprised. Personally I hope that Trubisky fares better earlier and Fox doesn't leave but that's just me.
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Our team can't go to sleep on Keenum and their backup RB is Latavius Murray who is no slouch (pro bowl last year with Oakland).
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Now that's funnny! I don't care who you are.
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Just for reference; as of this post the Dolphins are down by two scores to the Saints and Cutler just fumbled. Dolphins did manage to recover it...
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So I'm curious; how did Pace, Fox and I'm guessing Loggains decide to go with Glennon? With players like AJ McCarron, Case Keenum and Jacoby Brisset out there, what made Glennon that appealing? Keep in mind this is the same staff that pulled off a CIA worthy covert meet and workout with Trubisky to eventually make some bold moves to secure him in the draft. Should we be concerned on how they, as a group, judge talent? Or was Glennon expected to be the straw man all along? Surely they had to see this happen?
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was there anything good about this game?
Alaskan Grizzly replied to Lucky Luciano's topic in Bearstalk
FWIW, I really like Tony Romo in the booth. He and Troy Aikman are (IMHO) two that do the best. (Weird that they're also both former Dallas QBs).