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Problem is all forms of defense have exposed Cutler for what he is. Given the strength in schedule and how Hoyer has been performing to this point, I'd rather stick with Hoyer. Truth be told, I wouldn't mind seeing what Barkely could do at some point too.

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I was actually thinking along these lines (yes I know, hard to believe). But given the fact this team probably won't go anywhere after week 16 hits anyhow, why not let Cutler try for a few games and see how he does? I say this ONLY as a suggestion to raise his tradable status and nothing more. If they did this, Hoyer would have to know he'd be the guy next year with the thought of the team drafting (or making a deal for) a true franchise QB. The worst he (Cutler) could do is be Cutler-esque and then it won't matter. Only concern I would have is if Cutler played poorly he'd delay the positive development of the younger players around him. Some team out there will want Cutler for his services (Miami?) . A Gase reunion might do them both some good. *Edit*. On second thought. Forget it.

So how does this PFF thing work? Cumulative or one week performance? If it's cumulative then I get the love for Von Miller (1 sack?); but if it's 'per week performance' and comparing to a Bosa's performance of 2 sacks then why wouldn't Willie Young get some recognition with his 3 sack performance?

And in other news; in light of Kubiaks recent re-admission to the hospital, Joe DeCamillis will be the interim HC in Denver. Yes THAT Joe DeCamillis. This despite having Wade Phillips on the team. Surely if DeCamillis can be considered even for an interim job, Dave Toub could be considered one day as an HC. They are night and day in terms of creativity.

Nope, point was that right as McCown was making headway the team thought they had to go back to Cutler. And that went... Just hoping the team has learned its lesson on just how bad Cutler is.

Perhaps not as much. But still miss Gould. How many missed FGs that could of been how many points?

Can we please stop guessing who should be the starting QB for the Bears now? Glad to see they were smart enough to seek out Hoyer in the offseason. Very reminiscent of when McCown was here and many called it a fluke.

Yeah my question was more related to whether Arkush is a realiable source when it comes to reporting on Bears football. According to Wikipedia it seems he at least has a pretty good grasp. Unless I'm totally incorrect I seem to remember this was sorta how Seattle rose to prominence. They started getting younger (and less unknowns) into the team and before you know it they had one of the most dominant teams in recent history...however short their reign ma last. I'm not frankly surprised that Fox may have more actual control than does Pace given the compared experience level. Fox has done more with less in the past. Traditionally it seems he's been able to do it quicker in the past but yes I do see improvement, however slight. Something to consider is their next two opponents are Indy and Jacksonville; two very winnable games. If that is the case the Bears are at .500. Not that it means a whole lot given the unfirm base were working with. But, I suspect in the next few weeks we'll see Trevathan return and quite possibly McPhee(?). Those two additions could significantly help an improving D. And as far as I'm concerned the offense is in better shape if Hoyer is running it. Hoyer could be Fox's newest version of Delhomme.

Was watching a replay of a recent broadcast from CSN Chicago(?) where a panel (to include Arkush) were discussing some Bears news. Mostly it was about whether the Bears would win this weekend against the Colts. Anyhow a couple comments from Arkush caught my interest. I'm not as familiar with him as some of you are and was curious about what you know of him. Anyhow the first comment he made was that no team should ever 'tank' a game just to do better in the draft. (Something I'd agree with wholeheartedly). He went on to say that "no team in the NFL would ever do that." And that doing so is a "disease". The second comment was a bit more intriguing. He said he has a suspicion that Pace is not really running the operation of the team as they (Fox and Pace) had indicated earlier on. That being that Pace was in charge of getting the 53 man roster assembled and Fox was in charge of the coaching staff and whatever '53' were given. Arkush believes that Fox is "running roughshod" of the team. Leading me to believe that he (Arkush) thinks Fox could be the one making a mess of things. Agree / disagree? Being all this way in Alaska, I'm a bit removed from the day to day of what is the Bears and look forward to insight from those closer in. And by the by; my parents currently live in the Indy area so there's a bit of mini rivalry in place. They've been there since before the '06 Super Bowl. -ugh-

I'll be curious to see what happens when Jays thumb gets healed.

I love me some Jacoby Glenn!!!

Hello Robbie? Are you still out there? Please come back!!!!

Yes. A dominating defense has always been a piece of the Bears for as long as I can remember. Would hope that Fangio could one day restore that to match his rough exterior.

This is more a story of levity while we head into week 4 against the Lions. So you recall a few weeks ago we were discussing Fangios recent 'call out' of Leonard Floyd? And how some thought it might have been a bit harsh? Apparently Coach Fox was out with a bug yesterday and Fangio took on the un-enviable task of talking to the media about various things. The particular subject at hand was the health of Jay Cutler. "After answering questions for more than 10 minutes about the Bears defense, Fangio was asked if he had an update to give on the health of quarterback Jay Cutler. "No, I don't have an update to give you," Fangio said. "Want me to make one up?" Personally I love it. That to me is Bears Football...or at least a part of it.

Not for nothing but Pace doesn't appear to be holding up to well (at least in pics/still shots I've seen lately). I saw a Twitter post of he and Joique Bell during Bells signing and Pace looks like a shell of his former self. Also saw some shots during the game last week with Dallas and again he just seems out of it. I'm guessing the strain of the teams lackluster performance is getting the best of him. I wonder aloud if we don't see him gone this year especially if things don't look up. I wouldn't say I agree with the thought, just that I think it possible.

I'm with Chile on this (and I'm without the liquid levity). It is embarrassing to be considered as possibly the worst team. I keep holding out hope that they'd 'get it' but suddenly they find themselves missing half the team due to injury and any ground gained previously is lost. The conspiracist in me always wonders if there really are that many injuries or is there some sort of silent protest going on? Or does our team have that bad of luck? If it were practically any other coach than John Fox I'd have thrown in the towel but if for no other reason I still have a glimmer of hope that the team will somehow manage to at least look respectable at some point this year.

Maybe not a bad add. Has had flashes of brilliance but if I remember correctly has had a history of injury. Where would we be if we have Forte one more year?

Yeah that's awesome. Thanks for sharing. Did he say whether he was ready to play again?

Is it too late to forfeit?

You think it'll be that close? Sheesh. I hope so!! Thank goodness for rum and coke!

Yeah was sorta wondering the same thing when I saw his name pop up a few days ago. Another RB in the active roster? Trying to spread out the 'by committee' thing? Maybe after seeing Howard succeed where Langford hadn't started some murmurs?

Before I fall into some sort of trap, what type of ground rules are there to this discussion? For example; question one. You ask me when have the Bears had a good OL. I know, in my many, many discussions with you on that very subject that we will never agree on what constitutes a good OLine. Nor will we ever agree with how to build one. So for me to answer that loaded question, I'm being set up for failure. My answer to that question, knowing the subjective nature, is that the team has tried on several occasions to get him the Oline help you thought he deserved. Whether it be through FA (O. Pace, Bushron and Sitton) or drafting (Long, Whitehair or Grasu). They have done it recently with what I outlined just a few days ago. Short of drafting an Olineman in the first round every year, they have not met your expectations. I might add some interesting tidbits of info (besides the discussion we had last year about the Cowboys all 1st round talented Oline and Romo's two injuries) that the Dolphins currently have four 1st round drafted Olinemen and "ranked 28th in run blocking and 24th in pass protection" (Football Outsiders). PFF ranked them 31st last year and dead last the year before. Why is that? I'm not sure how to answer the question of 'how many OC's is too many' but I can tell you this, in looking for comparisons; Joe Flacco (who is currently paired with Marc Trestman - yes that Marc Trestman) has had four OC coordinators in the last 5 years and gone to the playoffs twice and won the Super Bowl. So I'm not sure how justifying it would be if I said 'more than one'? I might also point out that of the two years Trestman was the HC, Josh McNown looked like a Pro Bowl level QB in his system where Cutler played like...well Cutler. Uhmmm... What was Lovie's forte again? Defense right? Perhaps one of the best defense minded coaches out there(?) It's safe to say that the majority of the Bears' winning seasons these last number of years were due to Lovie Smith's defenses. Jay Cutler played in about 2/3 of those seasons. For the last question, as you tighten the filter of qualifying responses, I'd be remiss to try and assist you in what you seek. Because my answer would be simply; Cutler is an NFL franchise QB making more than NFL franchise QB money so not having everything line up perfectly shouldn't matter. But to you, I know it does. Do me a favor and read the article I attached below. It pretty much outlines all the points you bring up..and then some. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1150532...ever-just-right

The same Urlacher that called Jay a "p**sy" when he played for the team?

Oh brother. I use the Rodgers comparison and its 'how dare you'. Then told that Rodgers is in a totally different class. So I guess you proved that point. In fact it's that very comparison how Rodgers is able to produce despite a bad Oline. Problem is when Cutler does this type of play it turns into turnovers a higher percentage of the time.