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I saw Brads response and had thought about this earlier today. If the team addresses a lot of the 'needs' as you listed them through FA, would you still feel the same way? And when I say through FA I don't mean old guys who are has beens but a player like Trevathan, an Osemele and a Berry? Players who can contribute now and for a few more years? And FWIW I have to somewhat agree with Houston that I don't think OLB is as much a need as some are thinking. I think based on what McPhee has shown in potential and what Houston and Young did in the late stretch, I don't think we're nearly as bad off there.

Yeah, I'd heard that too. There is that.... Edit: was watching highlight videos on Ragland again and decided if (or maybe Lee) and only if he's not available... Then maybe....just maybe

If all these teams are possibly in the "QB market" I have a slightly used model I'd be willing to let them look at in exchange for their 1st round pick. Hell if a deal could be made with Denver for Osweiller, color me sold.

Then call me 'dumb' (I know you will) because this morning when watching NFL HQ on the Network they were reviewing some of the RB's from the draft. And for some reason in the back of my mind, despite the logicalness of needing defensive help, I thought wouldn't it be nice to have someone like Ezekiel or Henry (I'd prefer him personally) to add to what could be one of the best up and coming RB groups? Was it because Fox is known to run with a "stable" RBC type of approach? Or overall it seems in this draft there seems to be a plethora of defensive talent where the offensive side is lacking. I know it goes against conventional wisdom but it made sense when I was rationalizing it early this morning. Of course I hadn't had my quota of coffee yet either...

Given the need for defensive players on the Bears and good ones to boot, I could see them legitimately making a go if he's available in the 3rd or maybe even the 2nd. Like our previous conversation about others who have had some pretty dramatic knee injuries and bounce back I could see this maybe work out for him The major issue looming right now it appears is the nerve damage. That could really change everything for this kid.

I meant to add, given what appears AJ's need for mentorship and Kevin White's still rookie season looming he (R. White) could be a good presence in the locker room. Think BM without the infighting. If you can get a good 1-2 year deal out of him then maybe? IMHO Royal is not the solution as he couldn't stay on the field all of last year. R. White played hurt, for all intents and purposes, last year. Although not really considered a slot receiver maybe he still has some potential as the Z receiver in different ways?

Not much in the way of details but would he be worth a look-see?

Are you guys nuts? First we discuss drafting a player (Smith - ND) who may not play this year if ever... Now we discuss bringing a player, with a sordid past mind you, on that can't even contribute until November at the earliest. Hello ... Anyone remember the Ray McDonald fiasco from last season? Something tells me Fangio AND McCaskey are going to be a little gun shy after that. Talented or no, ain't worth it. And still no on Icognito. Team is way to young and vulnerable to have an ass clown like that in the locker room.

If he holds to the "market value" (whatever that is) and the Bears end up paying it something tells me we're going to regret it. Not 100% sure he's worthy. Hasn't really done much other than those two years and because of injury or perhaps sulking (last year). I hope he turns into the next Megatron rather than the next David Terrell.

I think what drew me towards him is the 'value' title. Admittedly he's not been All-pro his whole career and in fact he seems to have had some injury history that I wasn't previously aware of. After coming from a pretty dominant team at Auburn he was paired with Suh in Detroit for his first four years. His rookie year wasn't all that but he did uptick in his production in years 2&3 with 5 1/2 and 6 sacks each year. Year four he looked good until he messed up his knee. Then last year signed on with StL and with players like Donald and Brockers in the lineup he saw less play. And for some reason I read one source that showed he ended last season on IR but can't figure out why. Anyhow I'm not sure if he'd be a better DE or rotational DT with Goldman but with the info I listed previously I'd have a hard time passing on at least taking a look at mehim. I think AZs idea above is a good one. Maybe bring on he and one other FA from the second tier to try out.

It would make sense to consider mostly due to his age (26), former 1st round pick, had the best "...PFF grade among DTs (in 2015) to play 500 snaps or less*...". And our team has enough concerns on defense that using a draft pick at DT after successfully finding Goldman last year may not be as necessary. * http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/26183...ery-team/page/7

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So in my daily fact gathering of all that is Bears I found an intriguing story in Bleacher Report. In it they discuss a bargain FA acquisition for each team. For the Bears they chose Nick Fairley (currently of the Rams). Although he hasn't done much lately perhaps in Fangios scheme he'd do better? And why not spell Goldman from time to time? Fairleys probably still capable to do some 0 or 3 tech work right? Here's an article on what he's been doing lately. http://fansided.com/2016/02/25/2016-nfl-fr...s-nick-fairley/

On face value, both Incognito and Slauson are Nebraska products and I thought maybe...just maybe Slauson could be a good influence on him. BUT I'm fairly sure that the 'ship has sailed' for any hope of Incognito being able to act civilized for very long. With all the youngsters on the team I think it would be more detrimental than it's worth. Maybe he and another A listed douchebag, Dominic Raiola (another Nebraskan), can get together and hurl insults at one another.

RGIII is a recent example. And Robert Edwards (formerly of NE). Ki-Jana Carter, Priest Holmes and Terrell Davis. Admittedly I never would have thought of Davis but in reading up on this and after all his success with Denver, he was injured in '99. Enough where he couldn't return. "What could have been." Thing of it is is that many who suffer career ending injuries do so in college and are never heard from again.

I think there has to be a lot of stock taken into the 'what if' of a potentially career altering (not ending) injury like what Smith had. Are we really ok with our team drafting for the future if that means waiting for an extra year after we draft them to produce? Since when did we get away from the mindset that typically your #1 pick (especially in the first half of the draft) is supposed to be an instant starter? We drafted White last year expecting him to start only to find out he couldn't (I know different circumstance). But if for nothing else, and IMHO, we should be even more wary of players who have suffered some sort of major injury. And I for one would be concerned if our GM were ok with drafting a player KNWOWING he won't be able to produce this year...and especially a 1st round prospect. Over time I know there have been a few exceptions to the rule of injury and the player still managing to be productive. Willis McGahee and Navarro Bowman being those exceptions. Is it something to be said for the marvels of modern science or just luck that they were able to produce after such horrific injuries? I don't know that Pace has the luxury of drafting a player to sit on the bench for a year after having it happen with White. And I for one don't blame him if he avoids it.

DUH! I edited for you.

Simply put, since Pace likes BPA and if "his guy" isn't there at 11 he'll probably trade back for a later 1st (and later round) pick to get more value. Unless he knows something about Jay we don't.

Of the list I like Trevathan (same reason as everyone else) and Amukamura (because he's Nebraska alum and a solid player and agree Porter will need health insurance behind him). As for the rest I'm always of the opinion of getting proven OL help through FA is better than drafting. So if this Osemele is as good as advertised and another one, perhaps OT, could be had at a reasonable price then I'm good with it. I used to think that Wilkerson would be a need but with how much he'll probably demand, the emergence of Goldman and others don't think it's as necessary. Probably get another DLman for lesser cost or in draft. Like rounds 2, 3 or 4.

Heck all three are decent players. And like it was suggested with Bennett probably gone Cook would be viable option to fill in. He's no slouch. You almost have to give each a shot.

In preseason? Against a bunch of players that are now unemployed. Just sayin, perhaps hell stick after getting put on the IR last year and that was really the only reason Carey stuck around. Perry was productive on special teams the year prior. If they draft/sign another back then we'll know more what the plan is.

But...Kyle made the Pro Bowl again... ?

I had been considering this very thing just before the 'no deal' announcement and how I could see them trying to build a young stable of Rbs going forward. I kinda half wished they'd look at a hybrid RB/ ILB player like the kid from UCLa(?). But knowing they need ILB more than RB, probably not. So my guess is they'll go later rounds (3-4) for a RB. I could see them looking at either a Collins or Williams from Arkansas. Highly touted tandem that show up in these rounds in a few mocks.

I want to say that Urlacher hinted at retiring either at the end previous to or the same year he was released. Agreed that I think if the Bears offered him something he thought reasonable he'd have stuck around. Dallas was sniffing him out but never materialized for what ever reason. There's no doubt many thought Url got screwed. Otherwise they (Fox and Pace) wouldn't have made a point to make Urlacher feel welcome back at Halas Hall last season. Briggs was already distracted and really didn't care mostly because his restaurant biz in AZ was calling his name. I think you're right that he was ready to go the year he was let go. Don't think he even tried to get on anywhere. I hear lots of speculation Matt will end up with NE which I could see happening. He'll help Tom try and get one or two more trophies before they both retire.

For the sake of the team I hope you are wrong with #5...but I guess we'll see. And to be honest before the announcement of Forte I was wondering if they wouldn't entertain the idea of drafting another RB. Probably around round 3-4(?) Makes sense considering the style of offense Fox likes to use. Would be splendid to have a capable stable of very young running backs.