Alaskan Grizzly

WHAT?!? NOONE WANTS CUTLER?!?!?

WHAT?!? NOONE WANTS CUTLER?!?!? -- oh wait? There's Interest?? Those poor desperate bastards!

WHAT?!? NOONE WANTS CUTLER?!?!?

WHAT?!? NOONE WANTS CUTLER?!?!?

WHAT?!? NOONE WANTS CUTLER?!?!?

On the one hand I think it's too bad that we had to lose another iconic player. And one that chose us over going to Seattle. If only he'd have chosen them he'd have had a SB ring by now. I think he chose Chicago for mostly personal reasons. But on the other hand I'm way glad they were able to make a reasonable deal for him. I like Acho a lot more in the position. You have to think there wasn't much left from Jared. He Wasnt voted a team captain which kinda surprised me. What with being with the team last year you would've thought he'd have been a majority choice. He unfortunately hasn't had much luck playing on very good teams over his career. Maybe thing will go better for him in Carolina. Bear Trap if you're reading this please wish he and his family all our best. And thank him for stopping by Chicago on his way to the HOF.

That was definitely something Coughlin commented about. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/02...nts_him_ba.html

I'd be ok with seeing what Fales has to offer. And since when is it ok for your QB to turnover the ball? Sad that you think that's acceptable.

Who you kidding? The game MIGHT have been closer but undoubtedly Jay would've turned it over. History...

Because Chancellor is now back in Seattle. Worth a look?

A little early for Lagavullin isn't it? ?

I'm sorry but im probably going to regret doing this... How do you come up with stats like that? I mean what is the formula? Is this something one of you guys ghost wrote? Wait, where's Jason? We have gone back and forth over various stats over the years and almost every time the opposite side says "stats are only so good" as what you want them to say and how you interpret them etc etc... For example, how many times have most of said Cutler did well two years ago under Trestmans offense partly due to an intact Oline (played most of the season together). Yet according to the above stats that was one of the lesser favorable statistical years. And talking about Rodgers; how is it his Oline "overall" did well when I know he's been said to have been sacked more times in some years than has Cutler. A fact most of you didn't dispute, but instead offered that Rodgers was quite simply a better player. These stats seem off to me.

Now you're on to it. Yes the mistakes are forgiven or forgotton... whatever you want to say.... if you are able to win games. Yes Eli is not consistent BUT he's gone to and won 2 SBs. Cutler is not consistent and gone to 0 SBs. Yes Andrew Luck is now and has thrown INTs. He's played what is it 3 years and gone to the playoffs twice. Cutler's played 10 years and brought our team to the playoffs once. If I may borrow a phrase from the departed Al Davis all I can say is "Just win baby!"

You know what's weird about it is that you almost have to be Carnac in order to get it absolutely right. Take us as an example. Carimi and Williams were touted as first round talent and 'can't miss' opportunities from the supposed experts. Yet Long, who only played what was it two years in college was one "they" were VERY cautiously optimistic about.

I don't know that I'd call Stafford "model", but he has managed to do well with a pretty weak cast. Over his time with the team the only real standout players being Megatron and Suh. I could make the case that since joining the league in 2009 he's thrown for no less than 4000 yards since 2011, been named to two Pro Bowls (once as an alternate) and had his team into the playoffs twice. Rivers has been named to the Pro Bowl 5 times and had his team in the playoffs at least twice maybe three? And Eli, we'll all he's done is beat the Patriots twice to win two Super Bowls. All of which is better than what our QB has given us.

I'd have to disagree with the word usage in your first sentence. Should read "all/most" as he was the thrower, not the receiver. Anyhow, I would be willing to agree to some level that Cutler has not had all the support he's needed at all levels to succeed every year. Somewhere along the way, one element or the other has managed to not shine and give him the chance to shine. The team has tried however to correct this and give him that crutch. Whether it be signing former Pro Bowl linemen (Pace, Bushrod) to getting more weapons as RB's (Taylor, Barber), or WR's (Marshall, Royal, Jeffery, Muhammad?) to hiring 'preferred' coordinators (Trestman, Bates and Gase) a few managers have tried. For some reason or the other something inevitably goes wrong. But then again; players like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers and a few others still manage some modicum of consistency and success despite some of the lack of support they might have. It's like Mad said in another post, Jay will get going on a roll and play really well for a game maybe two then BAM, he goes from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde. It's not necessarily as reliable as clockwork but damn close. And when I say 'good play' I'm suggesting when he was in Martz' offense and last year's offense with Trestman. Just two games into Gase's system he looked overall good, but again reverted to the Cutler of old in both games. This inconsistency on his being consistently good is on him...not everyone else.

Careful Mad, they're going to lump you with me. Im gradually working my way towards Terra level egregiousness. ?

I've got 127 million reasons why he should be critiqued. I'm sorry if you think he's mistreated. I'd be willing to be ridiculed the rest of my life for that money. (Heck I do it here for a lot less). If he doesn't like it yes he should demand the trade. Since his wife doesn't like living in Chicago anyhow maybe it would be for the best?

Something tells me well both need to stock up on our "elixers" of choice in order to cope.

WOW Amazing, never considered it. You're right my mind is flippin blown. All this time it was Martellus Bennett that caused Jay to throw all those INTs and lose those fumbles. Why didn't I see it? Thank you guys for pointing that out. Ok, I'll stop looking for Cutler to screw up. Thank you for setting me straight.

Couldn't agree more. Well said and thought out and although I disagree on a few minor points, by in large though I'm right there with you. I can't say this enough and frankly don't care if Jason, Hustla, SCS or whomever care but I really want to be wrong about Jay. I truly do. If he succeeds, our team succeeds. Now that he can't play I'm hoping that Clausen succeeds but not necessarily at the expense of Jay. If I'm right about Clausen and he plays well all that does is boost my ego (and I'm not really that prideful), but it doesn't solve the rest of what you brought up. Which is there are 23 (or so) other players that are either not carrying their weight, not talented enough, not trying hard enough or are plain equally sucking all at the same time. Ok a few exceptions; Forte and a few others. But anyhow, I'm still holding out hope that Culter will at some point find what it is he needs to go up that one level to positive consistency. No more Jekyll and Hyde. Not only is he running of excuses, he's running out time.

Man this stuff almost writes itself. Not sure if Mad addressed this below but I'd like to point out some things here. This, I assume, is the 2010 NFC Championship game you're talking about? The one that Jay threw the INT for a score then shortly after was injured? Then sat long faced on the sideline the rest of the game. The same game where Caleb Hanie was THE GUY who brought the team to ONE TD from going to the Super Bowl before throwing that INT to BJ Raji in the endzone or real close? That the game you're talking about? But before I get ahead of myself I should probably ask, 'where was Martellus Bennett" when Jay threw that pick 6? Did he go the wrong way? Did he misread Jay's call in the huddle? Wait he was playing for Dallas that year, so maybe he wasn't the cause?

What if you're a vegetarian? And the 'Clausen for Prez' thing is just idiotic. Come up with something original or more thought provoking.

Our team is turning into East Denver... Without a Manning. *Edit: I just realized I thought his name sounded familiar. He's married to Olympian Corey Cogdell who is from Alaska. He done good.

Good point. Didn't even think about until you mentioned it. That is sad if you think of it. Given the level of injury (allegedly) you'd think he'd at least try to come out to support the team. With the image he has, mostly through the media, you'd think he'd want to repair it...if only a little. Maybe he really "don't care"?