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I think he was saying that 'tongue in cheek' or being cheeky.

Yep... Indeed.

Bass at nickel or cut?

Issue is, when two of those "bad plays" become turnovers which translate almost directly to points (as they did in Green Bay) then yes he is more than just "part" of the problem. We all agree that the D is a weakness too. Probably expected it. Tucker is running it. Allen is not the same as he once was, nor is Briggs. Houston...was he still on the team? Conte comes and goes each game. And the rest comprise mainly of first year players. Even if this D was performing at 'average level' (say ranked 16th or so) you can't expect them to stop every extra scoring opportunity the opponent gets. Especially if it's extra opportunities they wouldn't have had to begin with.

The above stat is why I, as a fan, am most frustrated. And equally frustrated about the second part of what you posted. If the team could somehow put together a winning streak, this discussion would be null and void. If, the Defense was like it had been before (and scoring their own TD's on occasion) there wouldn't be as much pressure on Cutler. His negative stats would be more a footnote than a headline. If Hester (or any competent returner) were on the team and getting the team in better field position (paired with a great defense) again, this all would be moot. But, the fact that Cutler IS having problems and just signed a huge contract, the expectation is for him to take the lead and set the pace. There is no way I can expect Kyle Fuller, Ego Ferguson, Will Sutton or Brock Vereen to take the defense and make them into the powerhouse they once were. Not when compared to the expectations we should have for Cutler.

Really? Is that what you call a response? The observations are what they are. And what they are do not translate to someone who is really trying to get better. As you say we have to accept who he is. true, which unfortunately is our QB for the foreseeable future. And with the way he's playing as of late he and the team will stay mediocre.

I get what he's saying and have to agree. Jay has been like that for years. Even did it when they brought in that QB coach he liked from Denver, whatever his name was. The fact that each time you see him on the sideline he looks like he's day dreaming or something is a bit disturbing. He has the opportunity to review the previous series and just sits there staring off into space. Now the fact that we see it on TV doesn't necessarily mean that he's doing it all the time but the fact he is when we do is telling.

'word'

DP

AZ, don't think anyone is talking a mutiny just that we're frustrated with how things are shaking out. As has been pointed out the offensive players are 'making bank' and not showing much for it. While on the D, comprised a lot of first year players and one exceptionally old one (and being led by a twit of a coordinator) aren't doing horribly but could improve. My labeling as a 'Cutler hater' early on is starting to ring true. Although I'm really not a hater per se, just an expecter. I expected that with the change of Head Coach, change of offensive philiospophy, change of GM and for all intents and purposes change of D, I'd see something more of an overall change...for the better . So far it's been meh. To put things into perspective, Lovie was .500 in his first two seasons (5-11 in '04 and 11-5 in '05) so there is still hope that Trestman could do at least that well. So far Trestman is just one or two games below .500 so all hope is not lost. I just think a lot needs to be done with the QB position. Whether it be sit him, trade him (someday) or rebuild him, we need better and consistent play from him. *edit: one last negative comment. I couldn't help but notice you believe the team has markedly improved in the time Trestman and Emery have taken over. Lest I remind you that the team was 10-6 ( just barely out of playoffs) when Lovie left.

I think Trestman deserves at least one more year. He and Emery need to do a "no shit" honest analysis of Cutler and decide if they can continue with him after this year. Bad thing about losing Cutler probably means a lot of re-building on offense. So goes Cutler so too will Marshall, and maybe even Jeffery etc.

Believe me when I say I really still hope he somehow is able to pull it out. I've heard many times the comparisons to Romo and Cutler (pretty average for lots of money). Romo is starting to show his worth, if only a little . Can Cutler too? I would like to think so. Not a lot of faith but I'll still pull for him while he's the starter. On that note; you think Lovie'd be willing to trade for McCown and a 1st or second round pick?

Question now is can he pull out a last minute drive for a TD? Edit: Nope.

Damn, was hoping not to see Jekyll but damn!

Well, here's where we see whether the potion goes into effect or not. Please stay with us Jekyll.

So far so good. Dr Jekyll is playing today. So far... ... There is that one Int... I know you'll say it's BMs fault. And the D is doing their part

SWEET WILLIE YOUNG!!!! I'm now the founder if the 'Alaskans for WY' fan club! Where do I get a jersey?

Don't insult Grossman like that. He at least has won a playoff game and played in the SB for the Bears. In other news: Ola looks to be struggling out on LT.

Like in an earlier post, I read that Briggs was frustrated by the lack of blitzing calls. He knew what we saw. You're probably right that they (Tucker) didn't want to dedicate someone to blitzing knowing that one person out of position would allow Lacy a field day. Look at what happened to Minny the other night. They rushed Rodgers more than the Bears did and Lacy did much better . There had got to be a balance. I say with all these mobile QBs (yes I consider Rodgers to be one) you need a spy back to watch the QB and the QB only. Unfortunately the only one whose really been effective in doing this, SMC, is out. May not be as much an issue this week as Newton is hobbled but still a concern. Maybe Bostic could cover the spot? We know he can hit. I'm just not sure he's able to dissect plays very well .

I saw what you did there... You're right, I'd prefer Jay not get hurt. I am curious why Leno isn't being considered but what you say makes sense. Ola having game time experience does sound better than bringing in a raw guy. I'm not so sure the Bushrod injury is as sinister as some are making it . I saw his interview and he didn't look like he was lying about what happened, probably just doesn't want to reveal the extent of the injury. He's walking limp free, boot free so it can't be too bad. *edit: read an article and saw that he is wearing a boot but no surgery . Sounds like he was " rolled up" on by someone. He's relieved it wasn't anything "crazy" (meaning extensive injury) but probably scared him a little when it happened. Again , probably doesn't want to speak on how extensive right now.

Why not Leno I wonder? 'Damn' on Bushrod getting hurt!

That...was well put. Bravo sir.

Greg Cosell is revered in his industry. You can look him up if you don't know, I'm sure you can operate google or Wikipedia. I was wrong earlier about his relation to Howard. He's actually his nephew not his son... Anyhow. So now that Trent "Corndog" Dilfer has changed his tune, suddenly he speaks gospel? Interesting. I'll give you this ; I agree with others when they say Jay probably has one of the best (if not the best) NATURAL talent for a QB in the NFL. I'll even concede that he appears, at times, to be improving in his mechanics . (It's unfortunate that he's taken nine years to do it). But I can't get over the boneheaded game time choices he makes. Time and again he kills the team with the sudden emergence of Mr Hyde and makes desperation throws and tries to do when others hesitate. Is it tunnel vision in the face of adversity? Perhaps . All I know is I won't be content until he proves himself worthy in the money the team paid him. Not just for "getting better" in four games, but rather winning at least a playoff game. Then maybe I'll be an apologist rather than a "hater".

The word you're looking for is mediocre . Similar to Cutler. Similar to the D run by Tucker . The catalyst for O is not BM (Bennett anyone? Having a better year). The catalyst for O is definitely Cutler. For D .. Again it's Tucker.

DP