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And I think since he was hit during the last series and didn't need medical staff on the field, they didn't really have a chance to assess until later. I mean the guy came up wanting to fight and yelling "what the fu#* are you doing?" to Ansah. So it didn't appear at first he was bad off.

I wondered about that after his last hit. He seemed a tad off during the remainder of the 2 min drill.

There is almost no doubt now in my mind that Cutler is not the right one for this system. With essentially two journeymen able to come in and run it effectively then there is no question they wasted all that money on Cutler. IF Clausen were able to continue to play like he did today then yes I'd be ok if he started. Like to first see how he does next week before I finalize my judgement. Speaking of a Cutler deal with the Titans. How about the Bears make a deal straight up for Locker?

Maybe the rotation of the cylindrical orbish shaped object is off? Or he's not used to getting the ball in his hands this year?

By the way, Dominic Raiola is a POS.

This.

Achillies injury. Great show this year Mr Young. Looking forward to seeing you back bext year and getting your buddy Suh to join you. And while I'm plugging: looking forward to the return of Allen too.

[quote name='ASHKUM BEAR' date='Dec 21 2014, 10:39 AM' post=' Now that Trestman has this team going. What will this team do now? Fire Emery for signing Jay and forcing him on to the coaching? Hate to say it, but Clausen has moxy right now and the team is starting to buy in. The defense is even up beat. That's the key. The TEAM is playing up because EVERTHING is working right. All three phases are clicking. The defense is rested because the offense is managing the ball control etc etc...

I do love me some Lovie. I won't deny. But you bring up a concern I had earlier this week when they chose to start Clausen. What happens IF we see what we're seeing? Granted there still is a half to play in this game but what happens IF we see Clausen effectively run this O like McCown did last year? And to blunt the "yeah but McCown played lesser defenses" arguement, this is a high rated defense that Clausen is facing.

Do I dare say... Clausen 2015?

This.?

Nope. Read my post and watch the game(s) and you'll understand what I'm saying. You're being obtuse.

Break down any plays between the two and the majority of the time that Cutler runs is due to the pocket (or protection) collapsing. Not because he wasn't looking for his second or third options.

And you might add Jimmy C isn't getting paid millions to be the franchise QB.

And has had at least three drops by the receivers. When receivers drop it because of Citler throwing it they aren't "where they're supposed to be".

You must be kidding. That one play where Forte fell down on the screen Cutler would have thrown it into the ground at his feet. Clausen instead looked downfield and ran. Let alone all the progression checks he's doing. You must not watch often if you don't see it.

Hindsight being what it is probably should have done FG but think it still a good choice to go for it there. Clausen looks sharp after starting a little slow in the first two series. Can't blame Bennett for being pissed.

Neither was McCown before last year. Neither was Clausen... 4 years ago when he last started. But...anything is possible. And the question still has to be considered. Am I convinced he's any better? No. Am I intrigued? Nother story.

Mike and Mike were just recently talking about prospective teams that Cutler could end up IF he were to be traded. They came up with about 10 possible teams. Tennessee apparently is a highly touted contestant because of his ties to Vanderbilt and that he is still relatively kept in high regard in the Nashville area. I agree that the current management/coaches should have nothing to say about where Cutler goes. Could really mess up things in negotiations for a new coaching staff.

Cute, I see what you did there. In all actuality he wasn't kept most likely because he couldn't develop a franchise quarterback. Which, IMHO, would make him an expert on underperforming QB's. So if I were to base my respect on him it would be more about his analysis than his coaching.

So if part of the problem was because Trestman didn't allow the team to pick captains? One of them probably would have been Cutler. Why? Because he's the QB or because he's a leader? Which one would earn him that 'C' by his peers?

Interestingly enough I'd agree with this. Something tells me that if Trestman goes away and another were to have a chance with Cutler maybe...just maybe he could prove me wrong. Truly, as much as I've banged on Cutler I would really like to see him succeed. Who knows, once Trestman is gone then some of the skeletons will come out of the closet and we'll hear what the real reasons why the team is as bad as it is. If the removal involves Emery, better yet. But...if Clausen does come out for these last two games and do well, then I'll have to think twice.

Your opinion is what it is and based on personal knowledge. Mine was based on what I heard coach Billick say. And when he said he actually apologized for it. Perhaps because he too knew the type of person George was. Be that as it may, the talent is all that really matters to me as a football fan.

You're right to a degree. Not everything is Cutler's fault. It wasn't his fault that he took the multi-year deal based on his "body of work". What is his fault is that he didn't at least act like the money he was paid. He didn't take an active leadership role. Didn't produce eye popping numbers. Didn't lead our team to a playoff game, let alone a SB. Granted I don't think all that ails the Bears is the fault of one person. Cutler is largely to blame because he hasn't produced. Briggs is partial to blame for not giving a s#*t this year. Trestman is largely to blame (at least I think) for thinking Cutler was elite and encouraging the team to buy in. Emery is largely to blame for either agreeing or forcing the issue to give Cutler the money. Stein is to blame for negotiating it. The ownership (and fans) are to blame for believing all of it. And as far as players not liking the fans and "freaking them" please remember this is the same base that torched Urlacher for acting the same way.

Can't say that I agree totally. But then again, we (nor the team) were afforded the opportunity to say otherwise. It's speculative at best. McCown was given a "similar" set up in regards to some talent around him but not the same system he succeeded in. If Clausen "lights it up" as some folks (I'm not one of them) are thinking he might then we will truly have to ask ourselves 'what could have been'? Something else to remember was that Cutler could have easily been franchised last year to see if he was truly worth the money they paid, yet they chose to go all in. Who's decision was that? Trestman, Emery? I think it safe to assume this isn't one we can blame on Tucker. Sorta like "Rex Grossman is our quarterback". Remember how ridiculously funny that was (said with heavy sarcasm). Two comments to this section. First, if the Bears actually draft Winston I'm done with my Bears fandom. For me to admit to that despite decades of following the Bears is painful to even suggest but if they were to actually pull the string on a deal like this then I will be convinced that the Bears have sunken to new low. To a low only rivaled by the Raiders. Secondly, I don't know that Holmgren is quite the genius that you and others portray him as. Ron Wolf (GM when Holmgren was hired as HC) was already considering to make a trade to Atlanta for Favre. Holmgren admits he had to do his homework on Favre and after studying him a bit, realized it was going to be a project. About three years after Holmgren had been in GB there was a discussion amongst the coaches to either go with Favre or Brunell. Eventually they went with Favre and Holmgren told Favre he had his support. * - "Coachng Confidential: Inside the Fraternity of NFL Coaches." - by Gary Myers. Now I think in this case it was either that Holmgren was lucky or good at evaluating talent. The fact that he couldn't get any QB to produce in Cleveland as he was able with Favre or Hasselbeck has me wondering. Maybe this is Trestman's last ditch effort to legitimize his credibility and show that he can get it done with lesser talent. If he does go 2-0 to finish out the year with Clausen as the QB what then?