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Like Peppers, Cracker is a shell of his former self. LOL

Well... There is Jared Allen and Julius still to consider. ...

Actually yes I was. LOL (that's for you Stinger)

Douchebag... I was one of those people. But it seems a moot point now that Cutler signed his long term deal ( not smart) and now, allegedly, teams are talking to McCown as a starter. So McCown (smart) will more than likely leave Chicago (not smart). I just thought it best to move on...

HILARIOUS!!! And now one of them is bragging about stamina...

I'm with you. I think Peppers could bounce back for one more good year but for how much? ($$$) I agree that Bennett is never going to be as good as Peppers was but will they be equal at this point in their careers?

I have to admit that I don't get on the site a whole lot this time of year. And when I do I see a lot of mock draft talk (not my thing) and numbers regarding FA. After a bit it starts to glaze me over similar to how Patrick Starfish looks regularly. Thanks for the breakdown. It does make more sense to go Bennett especially given the numbers and the possibility in a 2 for 1 deal like Bennett/Ratliff vs Peppers. That and the age factor. Although Pep has proven himself Bennett is still in the proving stage of his career.

So in essence a swap Peppers (out) for Bennett (in )? That's kinda the feeling I get . What are the cost comparables? I'm sure someone's made the notation somewhere(?). I know Peppers cap hit is a certain amount but if Bennett were signed in the $8-$10mil/year range (that's his probable range isn't it?) is it better / worse overall than Peppers? The only real advantage I can see right now is that Bennett has age (and I'm assuming cost) since last year Peppers had more total tackles: 46 to 31 and was only one less in sacks 7.5 to. 8.5. This coming from Bennett playing for a better defensive team than did Peppers last year.

Regardless, the first hurdle to overcome is him re-signing. And since he's already said he has no desire to play Safety (so we know it was a topic of discussion) that limits his options. Yes, he WAS playing at a pro-bowl level BEFORE his injury, but Hester WAS returning KOs and punts for TDs not all that long ago. Just sayin' I think for him to sustain his career he'd be better served to contemplate a FS position....eventually. Seems a few other players (with the examples noted above) did so successfully.

HIPPA rules may apply. And Trestman is an attorney .. There is that possibility.

That's more like the Cracker we have all gotten to know. Actually, Jason made or agreed with some of your points above. He laid out the first part of the last point you made (having a good year) and provided suppoting data to it. As far as the second part of that, it too is conjecture (him slowing down). I think it safe to assume he might have been able to topple the current return records had players like Steltz not been on the team...all we can do now is look back at 'what might have been'. Buuuuttt... The fact that he had that impact (potential if you will ) and still affected other teams' game plans, means something. That very potential that either he returned it well enough for favorable field position or caused the oppostion to kick away from him makes him worth something. Not sure what financially but at least another year or two. Regardless of his job as "only a specialist" he was a factor in just being in the stadium. That and his potential still put him above most other returners. On the other hand and considering the BIG picture; he doesn't have much else to offer the team. The team needs a fair number of bargain players that can do more than just return. Financially they aren't in a postione to be fickle but instead have to be frugal. Emery has made it pretty clear he isn't all that concerned with tradition if it interferes with the budgetary plan.

Wow look who's become the peacemaker? And with Jason involved no less.

Released from Denver. Since Tillman doesn't want to play S and apparently Emery doesn't have much in the way of loyalty, would the Bears have use of him as a potential Safety?

Sounds as though it's confirmed that Hester will be released on March 11 . Just saw on NFL AM. Reported by Nicole Zaloumis. She's a great reporter.

Couldn't agree more. All the 'facts' you presented show a fair number of near misses that occured just last year. I think there were a few games at the end of the season where he alone in his returns put the offense in a great position to start. And THAT is a huge factor by itself. Sure there are a few where he called fair catches that were questionable but those were distinctly in the minority. And for those others that he's not trying to return, the opposing team is doing all that it can to avoid kicking to him. Which on punts means the punter angling for an out of bounds kick which most times translates to good field position. What a lot of "us" are doing are comparing the Hester of late to the Hester of his hey days. A few things to consider, Hester was working with a different ST coordinator last year. Obviously Toub was better at setting up the ST than is DeCamillis (or whatever his name is) and Hester is a bit older than he was then. Nevertheless, the current Hester is still better than a large number of return men still available. The one and only knock I can say to Hester is that he can't contribute anywhere else. To pay him premium is difficult especially if you have a player like Williams (former Candadian player) who is a decent return man AND plays WR.

Have to agree with Connor and Cracker. Peanut is getting older and with the injury that will still effect his overall playability. I still think he would be better as a safety for a few more years. But if he were paired with someone like Revis he wouldn't have to cover the #1 as much so the lack of speed wouldn't be as necessary.

And paired with Revis it could prove to be a dangerous duo for a year of two.

I say you're a tool.

Which brings the first question to mind in when he made the deal to acquire him, were these things he thought about? Or did he come up with these observations...after the fact? I can fully understand now that he is essentially 'arm chair managing' he has more time to make these type of observations. I would tend to think he (Angelo) thought there was more to Cutler...potentially...than what he offered in his few years at Denver. Can't say as I blame him, his ceiling was high. It's the 'since then' part that most will agree he (Cutler) has not reached elite status. I think Angelo is correct in some regards but not totally. Cutler can read defenses, in fact he does it well. Does audibiles (most of the time) for the correct setup. Its the "...his arm can get the ball anywhere..." that you are right about and what causes him so much grief. I agree that Jay does not lack poise, not overall. When it comes to pressure sometimes he's a bit premature in his wanting to scramble but many would argue that is because of the lack of coverage he's had over the last few years. My thought is that he's always been a non-pocket passer. If anything that's going to be a difficult transition for him. Trestman's offense requires a little more pocket presence than Cutler has been able to demonstrate. McCown proved that point. But you're right, Cutler may be able to make that change with another year under Trestman, and with more age and experience.

Truth be told Mad, I'm in a 'win/win' situation. If TB does better I win, if Chicago does better we all win.

The "tongue in cheek" was in context to the original post. Where the comment was made how much influence defense hD in each of the last few Super Bowls. Knowing Lovie is defensive minded and Trestman is not I said "should've kept Lovie" (ergo tongue in cheek). Or perhaps I misunderstand the phrase(?). I didn't think the comment would incite a near riot (sensationalism) especially with the likes of the Stingers of the world. That I honestly did not expect. I realize Lovies not coming back and Trestman is the man. Still like Lovie for what and who he is. I guess the way I look at what happened was I did not intend to come across as being deceitful. Not intending to be trollish. "Just sayin". But in the end and as a result of this discussion you and I have a decent wager for a great cause. I look forward to winning. Haha!

I make no secret about how unforunate (not unfair) I think it was that Lovie was let go. I do like his style, yes. But I have also realized that what's done is done. I have said so repeatedly. I thought I made that clear if not in this thread but in other postings. You shouldn't need react like this. It's not a surprise You act as though he personally attacked you or something. If you call BS to my comments (as emphatically as you did) then I would have to suggest you need to take a swig of that hooch you're always talking about. And to remind you and others that think it ridiculous I dare bring up Lovie's name, would you prefer those with differnt opinions instead not comment? How many times have I seen other posters say how much they appreciate the varied opinions and views? This is one of those times. Like I said it stated as a simple off the cuff remark but wow...I'd be crazy to think otherwise.

Wow in 10 years? I'll be well into my 50s then. I can barely remember what I did yesterday.....should be interesting. Stinger may have chased me off by then. HAHA. But yeah, I'll go in for that. Make sure to keep this 'exchange' for proof. I know you're near the same age as I.

DP

I meant to respond to this post: "Smith will do what he does. Make the D very good. Get them close, but not go the distance. Hit the playoffs every 3 years and annoy the fan base and media." Of course my opinion is counter to yours. He "will go the distance" and "hit the playoffs" more frequently.