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I was saying that I agree with the statement "I have no use for people who fight with police. Neither should anyone else on this board." .But we know Peterson really didnt do anything major to warrant a four game susprnsion.Maybe one at the most. If the six guys from Detroit havent gotten any punishment from the NFL then neither should AP...just yet.

I tend to agree...you as a pro football player should know better than to put yourself in that position in the first place. making all that money why not have the party at your house were you dont have the public involved, dont have to drink and drive etc...make no sense to me. Hey give me that kind of money i would build everything i need inside my house like this clip.

Ask yourself why the Bears had R.Williams as the starting WR over Knox last year. Was it because he was faster....no, was it because he could catch better and ran better routes....no, it was because of the height difference betwen the two, and the Bears thought to take advantage of this. This year we will do the same, just with better players IMHO with Marshall & Jeffrey. Now my whole point is that size(height & weight) does have an advantage in the NFL. Case in point show me and Oline man that is 5'11 190lbs starting in the NFL or show me a 6'5 220lb CB starting.But I can show you a 6'5 220 WR and a QB and a 6'7 320lb OT.Certain positions height and weight are an advantage while other positions they are not. So to disagree is directly contradicting just what the NFL does every year when they pick the bigger (both height & weight) WR, QB,Lineman (both on offense and defense) in the draft. Now don't get me wrong they will indeed pick smaller players that are really good at certain positions but they tend to pick players to create mismatches or to have the best player at that position no matter how big or small, but they will go with the taller or bigger one 75% of the time. Denver back in the day had multiple 1,000 yard rushers behind a smaller line...it was how they blocked in that zone scheme that they were great at..not just power blocking. Now you (Jason) All things being equal, yes, a taller WR has an advantage. But all things aren't equal. Give me a WR corp full of Wes Welkers and I'll give you an unstoppable offense like the 91 Houston Oilers ok "all things being equal" give me a team of Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey and Darrell Reeves type of players and we will shut your 5'9 smrufs down-out end of game. Now give me a team full of Marshall, Moss, C.Johnson type WR's and your defense better call for help!!!

With Manning IMHO I think it's 50/50 uninstinctive he tends to be reactive instead of proactive..you they guy catches the ball then he moves to cover him instead of covering him so he wont catch the ball.

Well thats true in what you say and he will have to earn the starting spot, but more times than not when a team drafts a player for need instead of best player at the spot, the rookie will play because the talent level of the starter was not what the club wanted or needed.

Mongo dont be perplexed "I'm perplexed. It seems like you are supporting Wessons' assertion that bigger recievers do indeed have an advantage"[/b]Well its the truth. Listen to what 5'9 DJ Moore said and how he did against the 6'4 Marshall in camp so far. This will apply to most DB's that are 6'0 and below this year. Jason disagreement with me is to just stress his points, but he knows good and well that height and weight does have an advantage in certain situations and positions.Everything he says you can go back and see that he either agrees with me at some point or uses examples to get off the topic.. houston Oliers offense he stated he would rather have, but the star WR was 6'2 not 5'9. Welker is a good WR, but is a slot WR not getting jump ball type throws thrown to him.I will agree with you that good WR come in all shapes and sizes as you said, but if you look at history the taller ones do indeed have an advantage the shorter ones dont.And the shorter ones do have an advantage the taller one dont also. They tend to be quicker, get lost in crowds so they are open and teams don't double team team leaving them one on one with a third DB or LB. Now as for jeffrey he is a true WR as Hester is not and does things when the ball is in the air that Hester has not done. Like going fter the ball, catching it at it's highest point.. of out jumping the DB and taking the ball away from the DB in close situations. Marshall and Jeffreys are going to be a beast to deal with this year. Now you say that Jeffrey starting is unfounded.....why because he has not played in the NFL.....Really. How many rookies start eery year in the NFL that have never played a down in th NFL? Thats not a good statement to make. So you think the Colts, Redsikins, and Brons drafted Luck, Griffin and Richarson all to sit on the bench? These rookies will be starting http://espn.go.com/espnradio/chicago/play?id=8135826

LOL....you know I was thinking the same thing

From the list below what are your top four moves that the Bears have made this year? January 3rd: The Bears let go long long time general manager Jerry Angelo. January 3rd: The Bears and offensive coordinator Mike Martz decided to part ways. January 28th: The Bears hired Phil Emery as their new general manager. March 1st: The Bears released DL Anthony Adams and OL Frank Omiyale. March 2nd: The Bears placed the franchise tag on RB Matt Forte which would pay him 7.7 million. March 12th: The Bears tendered a contract to RB Khalil Bell which would pay him 1.26 million. March 13th: The Bears re-signed CB Tim Jennings to a 2-year deal March 13th: The Bears acquired pro bowl WR Brandon Marshall for 2 3rd round picks (1 3rd was in this year’s draft and 1 in next year’s draft.) March 13th: The Bears signed back-up QB Jason Campbell to a 1-year contract. March 13th: The Bears signed LB Blake Constanzo to a 2-year contract. March 14th: The Bears signed WR/KR Eric Weems to a 3-year contract. March 14th: The Bears re-signed QB Josh McCown to a 1-year contract. March 14th: The Bears re-signed TE Kellen Davis to a 2-year contract. March 15th: The Bears re-signed DL Israel Idonije to a 1-year contract. March 16th: The Bears re-signed S Craig Steltz to a 2-year contract. March 22nd: The Bears signed RB Michael Bush to a 4-year contract. March 23rd: Marion Barber decided to retire from the NFL, he was still under contract with the Bears. March 28th: The Bears signed WR Devin Thomas to a 1-year contract. April 5th: The Bears signed CB Johnathan Wilhite to a 1-year deal. April 5th: The Bears signed CB Kelvin Hayden to a 1-year deal. April 11th: Agreed to a 1-year contract extension with LB Lance Briggs. April 18th: The Bears signed OL Chilo Rachal to a 1-year deal. April 19th: The Bears signed LB Geno Hayes to a 1-year contract. April 19th: The Bears waived WR Max Komar. April 26th: The Bears drafted DL/LB Shea McClellin in the 1st round. April 27th: The Bears drafted WR Alshon Jeffery in the 2nd round and S Brandon Hardin in the 3rd round. April 28th: The Bears drafted TE Evan Rodriguez in the 4th round, CB Isaiah Frey in the 6th round and Greg McCoy in the 7th round. May 2nd: The Bears agreed to terms with Alshon Jeffery on a 4-year contract. May 3rd: The Bears waived S Winston Venable. May 8th: The Bears agreed to terms with Evan Rodriguez and Greg McCoy on 4-year contracts. May 9th: The Bears agreed to terms with Isaiah Frey on a 4-year contract. May 11th: The Bears signed DT John McCargo, DT DeMario Pressley and DE Cheta Ozougwu to 1-year contracts. May 11th: The Bears agreed to terms with Shea McClellin on a 4-year contract with a 5th year option. May 14th: The Bears waived OL Levin Horn, TE Andre Smith and OL Reggie Stephens. May 15th: The Bears agreed to terms with Brandon Hardin on a 4-year contract. May 23rd: The Bears signed DL Nate Collins to a 1-year contract. June 14th: The Bears waived QB Nate Enderle

Wow they should not even include R.williams in any poll, or compare him with anyone....he's in the class 0f (I suck) all by himself

Looking at the draft picks in our division, the writer says that the Vikings should be worried about...our top two! Do you agree with this? http://thevikingage.com/2012/07/02/top-5-n...le-this-season/

Sounds about right to me...but I still think E.Manning is rated to high.

I agree, playing 16 games I would like it to be around the 8th or 9th game. Gives the team time to rest for the run to the playoffs.

The pro bowl has become nothing but a popularity contest. When you have the fans voting for their favorite player no matter what they do on the field. Let say Vick out does Tedow (if he was in the AFC) Tebow would be voted in because of the popularity thing he has going with the fans....even if they are tied with votes by the players and coaches.

Melton is no longer a suprise by what he did last season. We are counting on him doing the same and or even better this year.

Well its not taken as you being mean but rather that you lost your points trying to plead your case. You know that height is an advantage because if it wasnt then the whole NFL would have WR', that are 5'9 like Welker(your man) but coaches, owners and players as well know that height is an advantage. Ask your QB Culter what he wanted and got this off season two guys at 6'4 and 6'3 and 6'2 WR/ST guy. Ask Fitzgerald who he wanted at WR on the other side of him...not the 5'11 kid from Baylor but the 6'4 Floyd. You are shying away from the basic concept of how height creates a mismatch an on offense as a WR it is an advantage. Question....would Doug flutie been a better QB if he could stand in the pocket at 6'4 and see downfield...instead of having to roll out to gain vision at 5'8? Oh and how many QB's are in the NFL starting at 6'0 and below? Not many If you use the phrase "all other things being equal" you have lost because they are not equal BTW in your post where you mentioned the "unstoppable offense like the 91 Houston Oilers" well they were lead in receiving by the 6'2 Haywood Jeffires not the 5'9 and 5'11 other two. This is the last post about this from me...sure you are going to try to say something clever but you points are not valis so admit you lost. In this NFL today height and weight are an advantage for some positions and maybe a disadvantage at others...case closed.

Ok here it is, I agree that the way Welker is used gives him lots of scoring chances due to his ability to get open but he is never thrown a fade route or jump ball in the red zone due to his lack of height. I also agree that the 5'9 DJ Moore has great leaping ability and can win some jump balls (he can dunk a basketball too) but more often than not would you agree that the taller WR wins those battles.I already told you that height in and by itself is not always an advantage but would you agree that it is. I focus on those guys because they have height. Now lets reverse it were there is a 6'4 DB guarding an 5'10 WR. Do you think more often than not the WR wins this jump ball battle? No I dont think so. As you keep saying all tings being equal isnt a valid point because if one is shorter and one is taller then they are not equal. Like you said "it's possible for someone to be shorter, have greater jumping ability, and still win the jump ball" and here is a video to prove just that, but you have to agree like I do with you that height is an advantage and not always a disadvantage. All the videos valid my point about height being an advantage, you have never made a point or shown a video were it was a disadvantage. You made up a roster...which was funny with Jones at QB with the big arms....but he doesnt play QB so no to that. The 1400lb Oline men come on they wouldnt even make the team 7'0 and 6'11 at WR....back in the day the Chiefs had a WR that was 6'9....oh but he's in the HOF now because he was taller than all the DB in the NFL. Oh the Eagles had one too.

LOL thanks...but did you count how many times Wes Welker was in those 'eight of those TDs occurred because a player was taller or could jump higher' your answer....none. But as it goes you just said what the whole point was about in the first place...... height is an added advantage. PERIOD. Well I can show you many videos of smaller DB's being used by the taller WR all day but i was just sticking to the players we have or the ones you brought up.......but here is one for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgoKAGRvm0U...feature=related

First off you say this "All things being equal, yes, a taller WR has an advantage" that's my whole point. Now you use Wes Welker as your eaxmple....ok fine he is a good WR for the Patriots....but he is a slot WR who always gets open against LB's and nickel DB's....... just like Bennett. But in the red zone he is used on slants and outs routes not fades or jump balls because of his height. Now to stress this point watch the video of Bradys year in 2007 and see how Moss. Gaffney Watson and the TE and LB are used (all of them are taller than Welker)in the red zone. And by the way David Terrell sucked and you know that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOgKfkJNSEo Now you need to go back and see just why Cutler asked for WR's that are 6'2 and above..because he knows that with the height of these players Marshall 6'4, Jeffrey 6'3, Davis 6'7 .......he can make throws that he couldn't make with Hester. Bennett & Knox at 6'0 and below. This gives him and the team an advantage in the passing game no matter how much you want to disagree.Look at this years draft...out of the nine WR's taken in the first 2 rounds, 7 were 6'1 and above while two were 6'0 or below.So height does play a part....now many teams can you name that have a whole team of WR's that are 5'9 like Wes Welker? I'll tell you NONE of them!!

First of all when you are trying to make your point you should pick a video that makes your point. This dunk was over a guy even though he was tall than Carter he just stood there,didnt raise his arms, didnt jump, and lowered his head so Carter could jump over him. How watch this video of how the taller Jeffrey out jumped the DB to make this catch. This is height advantage.

Ok then they both jump....the taller player still has an advantage. You are reading too deep into the comment

I dont either...because the whole point about height is this....if you are 6'0 and you stand behind your kid that's 4'11 if you both raise your hands in the air....then I throw you the ball to your hands...who is going to catch it without the kid jumpimg(like I said) you will. Marshall/Jeffrey against 5'11 DB's is the same situation.

IMHO I think Davis at TE will be the breakout player on offense. Last year he had like 18 catches and five for TD's. With Martz gone and his lack of use of a pass catching TE....with the Bears new offense we will see Davis getting more of a chance to catch the ball. On defense I will say that McClellan & Paea will be the players that will suprise us this year. If we get good play out of these two then our defense will be better than it was last year....we still have mostly all the starters comiing back. I will also look at two battles that are going on too, with Roach & Hayes at OLB and Webb & Williams at LT. Should be interesting to see who wins and how they affect the team chemistry.

Yes i see what you are trying to say, but the Bears did need a starter thats why they traded for Marshall and drafted Jeffrey.Now if Wes was taller then he would maybe not have missed the pass that sent the Patriots home from the Superbowl. Also Wes Welker is the patriots best Wr so yes they throw to him like 120 times a year. Now i never said that short players are at a disadvantage in the NFL but you know the saying "size does matter" and yes it will not always give you the advantage. but in certain situations it is very well an advantage. I know Hester and Bennett can start on the other side of Marshall.....but just remember what your QB asked for "it would be nice to have WR's that are 6'2 and up"

What you guys qwont let it rest will you? When I said bigger, and taller is not always better I'm speeaking of the overall positions....like the 6'9 TE we had in camp he didnt make it. But with other positions as such like WR ,taller WR have an advantage over a shorter DB that why no one can guard Calvin Johnson from the Lions....you know this so stop reaching.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/ Ex-girlfriend’s lawsuit against Brandon Marshall dismissed Posted by Michael David Smith on June 23, 2012, 12:30 PM EDT APA lawsuit that an ex-girlfriend brought against Bears receiver Brandon Marshall, accusing him of abusing her, has been dismissed. The Chicago Tribune reports that ex-girlfriend Rasheedah Watley, who filed the lawsuit in 2009 accusing Marshall of battery and false imprisonment in two separate incidents in June 2007 and March 2008, had her case dismissed in Georgia State Court on May 25. Marshall and Watley had an on-and-off relationship that began when they were in junior high school and continued into his NFL career. In 2009 he was acquitted of battery charges in a case that began when Watley said Marshall hit her. Marshall, who is now married to Michi Nogami-Campbell, has been accused of violence against women several times but has never been convicted.