Wesson44

Ok so the Bears beat the Packers team at golf 10-2, now I say we need to keep it going and start to win the football match ups starting in week two!!!!! http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8874

Nice line up for your team. But in all seriousness you just dont just the point or try not to value others point a view. I never said bigger, taller is always better, but in fact said it helps to add an extra advantage for our team.But did you take notice...or did you miss coach Tice saying he like the big linemen or did you miss Cutler saying that he wanted WR's 6'2 and above? They say this for a reason! With the WR, look at the links and see how Jeffrey and Mashall out duel/catch smaller DB's and how big they are making them hard to tackle. And then add Hester in the slot????? Marshall outside WR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-M1SlbJXto...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&...X26vOA&NR=1 jeffrey outside WRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKAO6R_0Rg Hester in the slot

In defense of this statement "potentially be the mose dense person to ever post on this forum" I think its you because you dont thave the balls to admit when you are wrong. Thomas and Weems are WR playing ST....thats it. You also assume too much that Melton will struggle because he has not played the position in a while. The Bears had two starting-quality RBs and a FB on the roster when the Fridge was playing Rb too. Lastly as I said before players will be switched at different positions to help the team take advantage of what they bring to the table as far as talent goes. So if Melton plays FB good, Weems and Thomas plat ST good....so you just need to get over that fact that you and your oponion and disagreements have no merit to what the Bears will do and are going to do. And its very stupid of you to think that Weems & Thomas are not WR's. If they both make one catch this year....it will not be on ST but at WR because as you say "Weems and Thomas are now ST players".Now one last lesson for you look at the links below....and see #'s 11,14,15,17,18,23, and #80 all catching passes! Because they are WR's!!!!! http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/mul...amp;play_clip=Y http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/mul...amp;play_clip=Y

Jason say this with me.....I Jason dont have a clue!!!!!!!!!! Devin Hester????? What???? You use of the phrase "doesn't automatically" goes against what you are trying to say because more often than not they help in weight(blocking) height(catching) That is the reason Oline or 324lbs and not 150 lbs that is the reason that tall WR tear up the NFL year after year against a 5'9 to 5'11 DB the height mismatch. Case in point if you put either Marshall or Jeffrey standing behing Jennings and told them to raise their hands and without jumping catch a ball throw to their hands do you think Jenning has a chance to catch it. That would be a big no! Now if you lined Tillman Up against melton do you think Tllman has a chance to block or move Melton backwards? Once again no So weight and height plays a great part in the NFL. If the player in front of him knows the routes and playbook better, steps up during the game, makes clutch catches, and goes all out in all facets of the game, Show me this player you speak of????

Now I see your point ...you have none. Now you are agreeing with me when you say Weems and Thomas were drafted as WRs, but now play on STs. that the whole point!!!!! they are WR!!!!!!!!! Now I never said that Weems and Thomas will be playing WR more than special teams...I agree that they will play ST more than WR but they are still WR's so that is a moot point you are trying to make. Now the Redskins drafted Thomas as a WR and the Falcons drafted Weems as a WR because they played that in college and tore it up doing so. now when they got to the NFL they have extra value on ST so that were the two teams put them also as WR/ST players. Look at Dallas...did they draft Dez Bryant (WR) as a punt returner? Hell no. Did the Cardinals draft their statring CB as a punt returner? No. So the whole point that YOU fail to agree with is this, if a player has value playing other spots on the teams other than what he is drafted for coaches will use that talent no matter what you and I say or think. So if Melton(DT) carries the ball or blocks from the FB position, Weems/Thomas(WR), Hester(WR) play ST so be it. I'm for whatever makes the Bears win games.

http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/mul...lip=Y&rn=19 Hey Mad listen to the question Lovie asked jeffrey at the end of this video!

Lets just hope and pray that with this new offense and its weapons he wont have to be batting aside lineman, but rather giving them high-fives!!!!

LOL yes so true

LOL you dont think your points are moot because you are like my wife....never want to be wrong.You make points then try to put another spin on it in your quest to be right. Its true that Weems and Thomas will be special teams players, but that FACT remains that they are WR's playing special teams.They were drafted as WR not St players. Now I will admit that as a WR both of these two may not see the field and Thomas has had a lesser chance since being in the league but at days end they are still WR's. Now read the line after their names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Thomas

Historically it takes a lot of time for WR's to fully make the transition from college really???? Have you been watching football lately? Ok I will throw this at you about 1st and 2nd round picks. at WR......if a team needs a WR do you think they will draft a guy and wait 2 years to let him develop? Case in point now look at these named 1st round picks Jerry Rice, Randy Moss. A.J. Green, julio Jones, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald, Steve Smith. Dez Bryant,Calvin Johnson, and the list goes on on and all these guys started as rookies for their teams. I dont think Blackmom or Floyd or all the other WR taken before Jeffrey will be sitting their rookie year. The Bears QB(Cutler) asked for bigger WR's so the Bears gave him what he asked for because they know 1. they WR we have could not or did not make catches like Marshall and Jeffrey make, 2. they are creating mismatches that they can take advantage of in the passing game and 3. now the red zone will have a better chance for this team to score because of those height mismatches and teams cant just say and know what the Bears are going to do.

First of all it was you that kept harping on the positon changes not me,so get off that secondly i know the Bears are not going to throw 20 jump balls a game that was not the point. The point is that they have now two WR that can win the jump ball match up and Marshall & Jeffrey will both attack the ball instead of just letting it come to them ......thats how Knox,benett and Hester catch the ball.That is one of the reasons why Cutler has thrown so many int's the WR didnt attack the ball. Now as far as jump balls go you(Cutler) can throw a pass not perfect but in the area of Marshall & Jeffrey maybe a little high but they can still make the catch as where it might be out of the reach of our shorter WR's, this gives us a better chance of winning, keeping drives alive and scoring in the red zone.

I'm good with that score and a win!

Well with the new additions we have this year you can bet that it will happen. Coach Tice already has said that if we have one on one situations he is going to make the other team pay with our WR. And they (Tice & Lovie) talked about the mismatches coming up in the red zone.

Well you have to just look at it. Hester was drafted as a CB not a WR. Jeffrey is a true WR. Jeffrey is 6'4 Hester is 5'11 so who wins in the jump ball situations? Jeffrey. Who was said to have the best hands in the draft? Jeffrey. Now Hester is maybe faster and has the moves to go with the speed,but as a pure throw me the ball type of player its jeffrey over Hester. Jeffrey is in the mold of Marshall and you can not compare Maeshall to Hester. Now he gives the Bears a better chance of winning because you as the other team can not double Hester, Marshall or Jeffrey when they are in the game so one of them will be in one on one coverage. There will be a mismatch because of his height and how he attacks the ball.Plain and simple Jeffrey is a true WR and will be a good one for our team while Hester is a converted CB but playing good as a WR

You still have no merit to your argument. Weems and Thomas are WR's and will play WR(if needed) and special teams and we will leave it at that. Now your point is also moot because the best return man in the game (Hester) is a WR playing special teams!

No I'm not he is a better WR than Hester but since Hesster is not a rookie he has the starting spot.Sothe better Wr is second string. I'm saying if you know that Jeffrey is abetter WR than Hester then you go with him giving you the best chance of winning

But there is one thing you are forgetting and that is the size of Jeffrey. This means that Cutler does not have to be perfect with the ball. If you throw it to either Marshall or Jeffrey they can go high above smaller players to get the ball. And he is learning what Cutker will do in camp...so I will see him on the field

Man you keep trying to make your point....but you have none.....point being Weems is a WR playing special teams, Thomas is a WR playing special teams and Marshall & Jeffrey are both WR.....so second grade math tells you that 1+1+1+1=4. It does not matter where they play there are WR's. So if Weems and Thomas go into the game on offense when lets say its third and five we are winning by 20 where do they line up......on special teams or at WR?

IMHO Jeffrey will have a good training camp and will be the no 2 WR. You say he needs to earn it but I think differently. You but the best players on the field that gives you the best chance of winning.Even tho Jeffrey was a second round pick he is going to be on the field.They say he has better hands than Blackmon, Floyd and Hill that were picked before him.

So true,but I think with the players we now have we will have better a outcome of those predictable plays. I love the idea of Cutler doing some of the things he did in Denver to take advantage of his ability to move out of the pocket with the roll outs. Marshall,Jeffrey, and Bennett/Heser in the slot are going to change alot of game plans for the teams we will play

We should win by at least 10. the Colts have a rookie QB, only one good WR(Wayne) not much of a running game and their defense is trying to move from the 4-3 to the 3-4 look

We should beat the Colts by at least 10 points.

I know and understand but that was not the point. Jeffrey was drafted to be the no.2 WR and will start before Hester due to him being a real WR not a converted CB.

I still think he is better than some of the guys we signed. Plus he already knows the system as someone said before.

True yes i was forgetting we need the PS players.