Wesson44

Well that " Guy" you are talking about coached that worst Oline to the playoffs at 11-5 and then last year coached them to a 7-3 record headed back to the playoffs (before the QB went down) so cut him some slack....he also said this year he will be using our team by playing to its strenghts and not the way the previous OC did or didnt do.

This is not something that I want to get involved with. "Fighting to the death" been there and done that (3 time war vet). I would not want to use my hand to hand combat skills on any one again.

And I agree with you about passing on the shorter guy might be a mistake but we have too many shorter guys already with Knox, Hester, Weems, Bennett, Komar,Saz......we look like a bunch of Smurfs.........lol

Cant say it was never posted.

Acutally if you look back at where you got that http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?...mp;#entry103206 you wil see that what i acually said was we didnt need Royal because we already had Hester, Knox and Bennett. Bears4Ever_34 was the one who wanted Royal. But I really want us to get Floyd/Hill at WR in the draft for two reasons. ! to provide insurance in case Marshall goes down and add that threat on the other side of the formation and 2. I really wouldn't try to let Knox play this year at all. That would give us a rotation of Marshall, Thomas,Hester,Bennett, Weems and the rookie. Komar and Sanz will be practice squad players. That way we can groom the rookie for a year behind Marshall if we have too or put him in the mix if he's good at picking up the system and allow Knox to fully heal. QUOTE (Chitownhustla @ Mar 14 2012, 10:38 PM) Cutler mentioned him on espn but no talks with the Bears. Find it odd not even a kick of the tire so to speak. Hester,Bennett,Weems= Royal, thats why we arent talking about him Full Edit Quick Edit Stinger226 QUOTE (Wesson44 @ Mar 14 2012, 11:18 PM) Hester,Bennett,Weems= Royal, thats why we arent talking about him I would have thought that was a no brainer, but we have similar WR types. Need some more larger WRs. Bears4Ever_34 I would have rather had Eddie Royal over Weems. We need to add a 1st or 2nd round receiver in the draft to get some young talent behind Marshall. Would have loved to have went into the season with Marshall, Hill/Wright, Bennett, and Royal as our top 4 WR's. Wesson44 QUOTE (Bears4Ever_34 @ Mar 15 2012, 12:14 AM) I would have rather had Eddie Royal over Weems. We need to add a 1st or 2nd round receiver in the draft to get some young talent behind Marshall. Would have loved to have went into the season with Marshall, Hill/Wright, Bennett, and Royal as our top 4 WR's. Tell that to Jason....lol

Yes i agree with drafting the best one available but we still could get a taller WR to have even more of a mismatch in the red zone with Davis 6'7, Marshall 6'4 and Thomas 6'2 and the rookie at 6'3 or 6'4. This gives us multiple targets to throw to instead of just trying to feed Marshall. The Lions use Johnson at 6'5 this way and he is a beast and no one else that scares people, but now we have a beast of our own and could add another one and will be dangerous this year.

Not true always. Prime example Jeff Saturday signed with the Packers when he could have gone to the Broncos with Peyton Manning as the QB. Now Saturday has been with the winning Colts all this time and played on last years losing team........... now he wants the chance to win again so he went to the Packers who have a better chance of winning (15-1) than the Broncos at (8-8).

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8713 If all our players come to work..to get it done this year....then there should be no reason why we are not back in the playoffs again this year.Looking at who we play this year.11-5 will be our record at least!!! Bear fact!! IMHO

LOL........my advice on knitting....let a woman do it.....lol

Marshall = Jackson (at least in stature) True Thomas True Weems should be listed on the depth chart as ST #2 instead of WR #5. Ture but still is a WR(maybe wont see the field as such) If the Bears get a #1 WR I will not be happy. But if they do, it's not as bad as what you orginally talked about... If the Bears get at #1WR you wont be happy??? Are you referring to the draft or Marshall? Potential Reality: #1 + #5 (Thomas) + Rookie #1. That does not equal #1 (Marshall) + #2 (Royal) + Rookie #1 (Floyd/Hill), what you wanted (I could link it for you if you'd like). Because then the WRs would be Marshall, Bennett, Royal, Floyd/Hill, Hester, and you've essentially done one of the following: I wanted another tall WR I never like or wanted us to pick up Royal I wanted Moss (see the contract he signed with SF.) because he just wanted to play and didnt care is he was not the number one WR and was a cheap option. I saw our WR group being Jackson, Moss, Rookie Hester, Bennett, Knox -Thrown Hester away as a WR option (the management and Hester's salary makes this unlikely) I wanted to use Hester on mostly ST and a few designed plays for him---since hes is not a true WR -Minimized the touches a true #1 like Marshall should get Marshall still gets his touches -Minimized the touches a first rounder like Floyd/Hill needs to develop Still can develp as a WR behind a proven vet and gives us a similar sized backup in case the #1 goes down -Created a situation where Bennett, Royal, Hester, and Floyd/Hill are all fighting for playing time and targets I would use Bennett, Hester, Knox as the slot and as outside subs giving us more true match up advantages against teams (those who press hard man to man at the line and those who play zones)---never wanted Royal already have his type in B,H,& K Bad idea. On a run-first team where the opportunities are somewhat limited, you're not allowing anyone to get in a groove, to develop chemistry with the QB, to maximize potential. You're really creating a cauldron of pissed off WRs who want to do more, who won't be happy about their playing time, and will want to get out of Chicago. That maybe true on a run first team.......but who says we are going to e a run first team next year. Ok somebody is always not going to be happy with their playing time, but the team winning comes first over WR just wanting to be All-Pros, but you also need to have good quality depth at the position case in point look at the Vikings WR corps If they draft a first round WR and the corps of WR is Marshall, Bennett, Thomas, Rookie #1, Hester, I think the Thomas signing will be purely for ST and he'll never see the field as a WR. Which still means they got a FA WR (Marshall), and one draft pick (#1)...not FA WR, FA WR, #1. Yes that might be true that if that happens, he (Thomas) might not see the field, but still they will have picked up not three but four WR this year even if Weems should be a ST player like you said

He's good but not what the Bears need at WR too little.

The 85 Bears should have won this hands down Raiders we good but not great that year, the 00 Ravens was led by thier defense with a running game Dilfer was a middle of the road QB. We beat those two with our defense and sweetness easy.

Yes i agree with you fully and i dont need to attack anyone's comments with insults to get my point across..

Man please....We got Marshall + two FA and still might get a 1st RD WR, but you are right we didnt get what I was calling for just cheaper options. Now since you are looking at what I posted I was calling for Jackson (we got Marshall) and I wanted Moss (we got Thomas 2 inches shorter) we could have gotten someone other than Weems but never the less we got him and still could go WR in the 1st. Now for the rest..........don't wear panties but combat boots instead ..so they cant be twisted. I didn't really care one way or the other what you said about me....it was lemonej telling me that I was so inappropriate in the way I was speaking to you. Now please explain to me why what I say has to be "stupid" as you so put it.. This is what sets others off like a firecracker! You just cant say, that what some else is thinking is stupid and expect for them to sit by and say or do nothing. Never have I said anything that you post is stupid...I will say that IMO or i disagree thats all. I'm from Chicago.. the southside 11735 S. Loomis born and raised. 21 year Army Vet, supported this country during three Wars (conflicts) deployed to Iraq 3 times, and currently working as a civilan contractor helping my Marines out here in Afghanistan........so as you can see I have thick skin and can put up with anything this board (you) can dish out. So we will contuine to agree to disagree

Well I truely think that they have a plan this year with the Martz offense style gone. Bates is going to roll Cutler out more and throw the little screens to the WR'S. This will make the line a little better because they would have to hold the block for 5-7 on most plays. Also with the addition of Marshall this allows Cutler to throw the ball quicker cause as you hear it all the time the WR always say " Throw me the ball I'm open" and he will be. And who knows...they might even draft a lineman or two

Ok i got your point.....but i wasn't the one who started with the name calling. I'm just here to spread my thoughts and views....and I can agree or disagree with the best of them, but when you start attacking me (like he did) then I have the right to say at least something. But did you read the whole post that he wrote? The problem was he didnt think that the Bears were going to get three WR in FA or the draft....so once again I'm right. We also were in debate about( if you read the posts) Knox's injury not being serious enough to sit him for the season. Now as far as Komar goes...I left him off for a reason....he wont be on the team much longer ( well maybe the practice squad). So right now we will not have room for either him or Sanz with Marshall, Bennett, Hester, Thomas Weems,Knox(?) and we might draft one too......so Sanz might have a shot but not Komar

I trust you....I don't like Webb.........LOL

I just want to say thanks to all of you posters here on this site...I love what you are saying and thinking about our beloved Bears. I just want to add this........are we making the best changes with what we are doing??? I think this team is now going in the right positive direction. Bush, Campbell, Marshall, Thomas, Weems for the offense to play with. Now I still see us drafting a OT/OG and WR this year to finish out this process. But the defense will get addressed during the draft....maybe we are going to draft a DE, CB and LB........we need to if not planned. I say the need for a WR in the first RD(like i wanted in the past) has taken a back burner to the need to upgrade the O line so I say we go OT/OG in RD1, CB in RD2 (Johnson from Montana???) DE Irvin( from W.VA) in the 3RD and the 4th WR/LB (maybe Streeter at WR) and then BPA. Also I just want to note to you guys ....the ones who though I was crazy to say we need and will get three WR in FA and the draft........I told you so. Well ok we didn't the guys I wanted to get but we got the 6'4 Marshall and the 6'2 Thomas whom both are big and fast mind you....Weems????........well he was signed to either push Hester to play better or just for ST use. Dane Sanzenbacher, who made the team last year will probably have to compete with Thomas and others for a spot on this year's 53-man roster so this is our group for now Marshall,Thomas, Bennett, Hester, Weems, Sanzenbacher, Knox(?). Do you think we can win with this group? I do really think we will add another taller WR........somewhere in the draft now the names Quick and Streeter come to mind for grooming later if we go OT/OG 1 and CB 2.

I think this is a low cost replacement for Knox who might not play this year. I thought that we would pick up another in the draft or FA but I was shaking my head at this one until I read how big and fast he was. He makes the special teams a little faster if he gets on the field. Now I cant really compare him to Knox as far as being a WR and catching the ball........but word was he has talent and like I said is bigger than Knox. Now this may just give us the chance to draft OT in RD 1 or two or maybe just go BPA during the whole draft.

I think that we will not draft any of those players at all.

Well in that sense he better be worried about his own LT and RT with Peppers on the field. They are looking for help as well with their aging LT and hurt rookie. Looks like we are in the same search for a LT.

LOL...he is worried now thats why he is making these statements. If you are not worried about your rival team then why would you follow what they are doing?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...story?track=rss Packers coach on Marshall joining Bears: 'They definitely got better' PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy has been watching the Chicago Bears’ offseason moves with interest, and was particularly intrigued to see the Bears acquire receiver Brandon Marshall. “Brandon is a problem for defenses matching up,” he said. “He’s a No. 1 receiver, he’s a hard guy to single up and play. They definitely got better. "Plus, he has the relationship with (Jay) Cutler. There is definitely value in that. It will complement their run game. They ran the ball very, very well at the end of the year, the way they wanted to run the ball. They definitely improved.” It remains to be seen whether the acquisition of Marshall will help close the gap between the Bears and Packers, but that certainly is the Bears’ plan. “I like the way the Bears go about their business,” McCarthy said. “I enjoy the rivalry. I think Lovie (Smith) is a heck of a coach.” While the Bears have acquired five players from other teams, the Packers have been low-key in free agency as usual. They lost quarterback Matt Flynn and center Scott Wells, and replaced Wells with Jeff Saturday. McCarthy doesn’t mind being part of a team that does not sign free agents. He buys into the player development process. “You can improve in the offseason not just through free agency,” he said. “We’ve improved every year with our offseason program and I believe that’s going to be the case again this year.”

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_..._trade/10408522 Rumor: Bears and Patriots are in talks about a Matt Forte trade Written by Brett Solesky | 26 March 2012 According to a report that has been accurate of late in the news and rumor and gossip reporting business the Bears are talking with teams to trade Matt Forte. The report comes from a twitter account that I was clued into via one of my followers. The report is simple the Bears are in talks with the New England Patriots about a trade involving Forte for a second round pick and a fourth round pick. The report insists that the trade talks have picked up in the last 48 hours witht he only snag being the Bears insisting on an additional high pick in either this year's or next year's draft. The report goes on to state that the talks seem to be fairly strong in nature and the incarcerated bob twitter sources expects to get a deal done fairly soon. I don't know how accurate or legit the account is but it sounds like it's been pretty accurate over the last week regarding some other sports news. I also can't say I have any other source on this matter other than this twitter handle connected to this website. There is no Bears beat writer account or rumor confirming or nothing else. Be that as it may what is making decide to report this rumor is the Brandon Marshall trade. The idea or rumor at the time was the Bears trading two third round draft picks for Marshall. This year's third round draft picks, which I summarily dismissed. Mud in my eye since the Bears did one better trading next year and one of this year's third round picks for Marshall instead. Something else that makes me think that this trade rumor may have legs is the article from the Chicago Sun Times. The report seemed absolute coming from Ted Phillips. In the report Phillips states ""But we feel we've made a strong offer to him, and are still hopeful he accepts it." That statement from Phillips doesn't sound like there's a lot of room for negotiation. The statement doesn't say they are in ongoing negotiations, that statement says they have made a strong fair offer that they feel Forte should accept. I wonder if this is an offer that Forte must accept, or that the Bears are going to trade him away instead? While I don't like to deal in hyperbole or rumors I feel like I should at least put this out there for a point of discussion. Do the Bears trade Matt Forte to the Patriots and Tom Brady? Is a second round and a fourth round pick a good deal for the Bears? Are they right to insist on more in terms of this trading away of Matt Forte? Do you have the confidence in first year, first EVER general manager Phil Emery to not get fleeced by the Patriots in a deal for Forte? This is the report and the talk from Phillips is how I interpreted things as they state with Forte. The Bears may very well be in talks to trade Forte, we don't know because the Bears have done a superb early job of keeping things locked up at Halas Hall under Emery. At the very least this news is something to watch especially as the draft gets closer, trade talks typically tend to heat up the closer the draft draws near.

LOl that would be funny.....hope we do to him what the Packers did t him last year.....him giving up three TD's on slants in the red zone.