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Bears sign Andy Dalton per the score. Foles 2.0
Mongo3451 replied to BearFan2000's topic in Bearstalk
I pray he lights it up, but has he really ever? Not a fan. There is still hope for my plan of building the fronts and getting the cap in shape, then get our QB next year. Knowing theses putz's, they'll move up in the draft to draft a QB with no line to protect him. -
I've seen it, so yes they have. It needs to be recognized that most of the crap you saw from Leno was from him playing next to Rashad Coward.
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I think your assessment of Leno is way off. He's a middle of the road left tackle and he will start for someone this year.
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Please help us, noooo! If we can't get a clear upgrade to Mitch, I want him back.
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Lol, I was referring to RRH. Yeah, Floyd clowned last year.
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May he have the breakout season he never had with us. Good riddance...
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I don't hate that as much as most. He was putting up points until Nagy got involved again... WTF
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I'm going Darnold and here's why. He's only 23. The Jets team he's played for has been in turmoil since he was drafted. He's got a big arm, mobility, intelligence and good foot work. His game meshes well with what we do. He's very affordable, as he will probably cost our second round pick. Plus, he's still on his rookie deal. I simply don't want to give up the farm for Russell or Desean. We are already weak on cap and older. We shouldn't make that worse by giving up pro bowl players and multiple first round draft choices.
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Completely agree. He catches a lot of balls, but most of them are contested. It shows he's either not getting good separation or the QB is late. His numbers show that he's top five, but I can name more than five I would rather have.
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I heard that Robinson is wanting Hopkins money and will not sign the tag. This could be ugly. At this point, tag his ass till he's 30.
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Call me a fan. He went hard every play for us. No injuries, blocked hard, tackled hard and ran his ass off on kick returns. Dudes like that are worth it.
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By Joseph Herff After franchise tagging Allen Robinson, the Chicago Bears are $19.7 million over the projected cap space according to Over The Cap. The projected salary cap for 2021 is roughly $188 million on Over The Cap as well. The Bears already freed up some cap space immediately by releasing nickel cornerback Buster Skrine and starting right tackle Bobby Massie. Both of these releases saved the Bears a bit of money, but not much, and additionally left a hole at a major position (right tackle). Alex Bars may be able to fill that hole, or they can fill it via the 2021 NFL draft as this tackle class is extremely deep. Nickel cornerback should be fine as Duke Shelley showed promise and they can have Kindle Vildor and Tre Roberson compete with him for the starting job. This is another position they should be fine at but should address in the draft. But at -$19.7 million over the cap, many think it is impossible for the Bears to make it work. The New Orleans Saints though year after year put themselves into a cap issue and get out of it. They truly are the masters at it as they were around $60 million over the cap this offseason and just franchise tagged Marcus Williams. How do they do it? Plenty of different ways they do it and the Bears need to incorporate those same ideas this offseason. Pace needs to use his New Orleans connections and do the same thing here. The Chicago Bears can open up more cap space with contract restructures The biggest way the Saints open up money is through restructures. A contract restructure is not a pay cut as many think. Basically, a team restructures the contract by converting base salary and other bonuses to a signing bonus. The signing bonus is paid out in a lump sum and accounted for on the remaining years of the contract rather than the current season. Essentially, this pushes money back and the Saints basically rely on the idea that each season the cap space is going to increase. This season caused them more trouble as the cap space actually decreased due to COVID. So, the Bears can do this with plenty of players. Here are some of the prime candidates to do it with: Khalil Mack, OLB — $12.9 million Kyle Fuller, CB — $9 million Robert Quinn, OLB — $8.7 million Eddie Jackson, S — $6.8 million Charles Leno, OT — $6 million Cody Whitehair, OG/C — $4.9 million Eddie Goldman, DT — $3.2 million Nick Foles, QB — $2 million Danny Trevathan — $2.6 million These obviously all won’t happen. These are just the prime candidates that would garner the Bears the most amount of cap space for the 2021 offseason. If the Bears potentially restructured every one of these players, the Bears would have $29 million in cap space for this offseason, plenty to add Russell Wilson and more talent as you can restructure Wilson as well. It has already been reported that the Bears are going to probably restructure both Whitehair and Jackson. Trades could free up cap space and gain draft picks for the Chicago Bears The other big way to open up cap space is through trading a player away. This would open up even more holes for the Bears but could allow them to get more draft capital to fill more needs or even use that capital to trade for Russell Wilson. There aren’t as many trade candidates for this offseason for the Bears, but a few would save them a lot of money. Here are some potential trade candidates. Kyle Fuller, CB — $11 million 2021 First/Second-Round Pick Allen Robinson, WR — $18 million 2021 First/Second-Round Pick Akiem Hicks, DT — $10.5 million 2021 Third/Fifth-Round Pick Nick Foles, QB — $1.3 million 2021 Fifth/Seventh-round pick Again, this isn’t calling for all of these players to be traded. These are just candidates for the idea. Some players like Allen Robinson may not want to be here given his contract issues here and his constant complaining about the Bears and the franchise tag. Additionally, some players like Hicks and Fuller could help win-now teams that need one more piece to help their team. Both of them still have high value as well despite them getting older. If the Bears traded away these players, that would open up the Bears’ cap space to $21 million. See how well that works? It’s easy to manipulate the cap. Some players could be cut as well to open up cap space The Bears already got started on this by cutting Buster Skrine and Bobby Massie, but there are even more candidates the Bears can cut to open up more space. It won’t be easy, but the Bears can dump off some failed players while additionally getting bad players out. They likely will have to make some difficult cuts as well. Charles Leno, OT — $6.2 million Jimmy Graham, TE — $7 million Anthony Miller, WR — $1.2 million Joel Iyiegbuniwe, ILB — $920k Javon Wims, WR — $920k Repeating myself again, but I am not calling for all of these guys to be cut. Releasing some of these players though can open up more cap space and will allow the Bears to add more to their space by getting rid of issues within the locker room. With both Skrine and Massie being cut, those were two of the prime cut candidates given their current playing states as they both were aging and struggled the last few seasons. Massie played solid last season but didn’t play much due to an injury. What should the Chicago Bears do then? Here should be the plan for the Bears to open up a great amount of cap space: Restructures: Khalil Mack, OLB — $12.9 Kyle Fuller, CB — $9 million Robert Quinn, OLB — $8.7 million Eddie Jackson, S — $6.8 million Charles Leno, OT — $6 million Cody Whitehair, OG/C — $4.9 million Eddie Goldman, DT — $3.2 million Total Cap Space: $26 million Trades: Allen Robinson, WR — $18 million 2021 First/Second Round Pick Akiem Hicks, DT — $10.5 million 2021 Third/Fifth Round Pick Total Cap Space: $54 million Cuts: Jimmy Graham, TE — $7 million Bring him back cheap Anthony Miller, WR — $1.2 million Javon Wims, WR — $920k Total Cap Space: $64 million And just like that, I opened up $64 million in cap space while gaining ideally a first-round pick and fourth-round pick. I’d have the money to pay Kenny Golladay at a discounted rate of Allen Robinson. I then could trade for Russell Wilson and use the first-round gained from Robinson and restructure his deal. NEXT: Chicago Bears: Kyle Long announces a return to the NFL This could leave the Bears with potentially still plenty of picks to address slot wide receiver, defensive tackle, and right tackle while adding depth to other key positions like safety, cornerback, inside linebacker, and wide receiver. All in all, don’t be worried about cap space. It isn’t ever something to be worried about as the Saints have shown that time and time again that you can dig out of the hole each year.
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Depends on QB. Best case scenario is upgraded QB and four year contract.
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I don't mind going with Winston or Darnold. Winston would be great if he gets it under control. BA sure as heck couldn't fix it. I honestly don't think Darnold had a fair chance from day one. Mariotta, Smith, Taylor and Dalton are a no for me.
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He won't be coming here though... https://twitter.com/RedLineRadio/status/1369345676484751362?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1369345676484751362|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbeargoggleson.com%2F2021%2F03%2F09%2Fchicago-bears-kyle-long-returns-nfl%2F
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Dak is locked up. Houston is not taking offers for Desean. Russell gives his team a 39 mil cap hit if he's traded. My assumption is they are out of the equation for us. That leads me to this question: who is a better solution than Trubisky? Take into consideration style of play and system compatibility, along with supporting cast.
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So, you want to keep Robinson and pay his high price if Foles is throwing to him. Do you think that is "going for it"? I don't. As to the last part, you have a partial point. Robinson is better than all of those receivers. At 27, he is in his prime for another 5 years, we least. Also, those other receivers are going to get less money, but not way less. I'd give up a pick if I needed a reliable number one receiver.
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His price is set through his contract with Seattle. I keep hearing stuff, but it doesn't make sense for Seattle to trade him. That alone would cause 39mil on dead money.
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If we can't secure a decent QB, I vote for tag and trade.
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I'm not sure how many people know it, Kyle and Russell have been friends since they were 15.
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I like it. We have to hope the new DC sets them loose better than Pagano.
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Me too. Something to point out also is that we are one of the oldest teams in the league. That is a problem caused by Pace trading two complete drafts away. Now, if we add a Russell Wilson to the mix, we get older and have even less draft capital.
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Hate it. None of them have ever done anything, with plenty of opportunity. I don't have any confidence that poor QB play will elevate anyone. Robinson is the proven go to guy for us. That's why he gets paid by someone.
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What you say is accurate regarding other teams. However, those teams don't seem as desperate as we are. It's been talked about all week how the Bears have a substantial package they have offered for Watson. Unfortunately, it has leaked. All told, this team needs to suffer before it gets better. No new QB's and build the fronts.