Mongo3451

I don't think so. They want to unload his salary and any drama that may follow him going from MVP to backup. A team would have to be really bad at the QB partition to both trade for him and eat his salary.

I'd just cut him to send a clear message.

Yup

That was long, but a great read.

Whitehair was drafted to be a guard and Daniels a center. I understand why they made the move on the off-season, because they thought they would make each of them better. Again, Nagy not working players in pre season games proved a failure. Now, if the move was a total flop the switch should have been made at the bye. Amd again, on Nagy. He'll learn or coach himself out of a job.

Sometimes a little anger and pride solves problems. Agreed, it starts with leadership, so hopefully they can sync.

Damn, they have Gurley choking their cap as well. Plus we can compare Donald and Mack on salaries...

The truth is, they locked onto Mahomes because they knew he was all they were gonna get. Also you can apply the Brady theory of hindsight to it. Wouldn't you trade up further to get that pick of you think he's that good?

I get it, but... https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000950270/article/matt-nagymitch-trubisky-bond-predates-chicago-bears-days?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dchi%3Bteam%3Dchi%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dncn%3Bplyr%3Dpatrick_mahomes%3Bplyr%3Dbrett_hundley&sr=amp

I wonder if McVey is feeling the same heat Nagy is.

Nagy was wanted by the Colts as well as the Bears. As I recall, Nagy chose the Bears because he loved Trubisky and is on record stating that he loved him coming out of the draft. I'm sure the compliments could be coach speak for his player, but you can't say he was handed Trubisky against his will, as he was already here.

My thoughts as well Stinger.

He was just being of lauded buy everyone last year. Stole Mack from the Raiders. Locked up Hicks, Goldman and Whitehair. Drafted Jackson and saw the renaissance of Fuller. We have the pieces and are in decent cap shape as compared to poorly ran organizations. He and Nagy get one more year. What they do with it will matter greatly.

I tend to agree.

On the upper end of the scale, would you sacrifice Brady or Belichick? Unless you know...

Damn boys, give Nagy time to lick his wounds. If he's as great of a young coach as Reid says he is he'll figure it out. Also, we were applauding Pace last year. I'm in for both of them next year. If I don't see growth, then I'm out.

How about a seasoned coach who knows how to take a great defense to the Superbowl? Make that two Superbowls. ?...John ? ? Seriously, let Nagy and Pace grind this out. They are both young and talented. The ego bruising should season them well. But, Foxy could be brought on as a consultant to help stabilize and correct what can be.

Loved every part of it!

There are many good players on this team, so let's fix it. My thoughts are simple and always have been. We start by fixing the OL. Spend two high draft picks on OL. Spend one on QB. After that, draft speed on D. Clearly, Nagy has struggled this year and nobody is looking at Helfrich. I suggest Nagy hire a more conservative OC to balance his mad scientist style. I believe Helfrich is not a counter balance. Then, Nagy has to listen. On defense, Pagano needs to find his inner Fangio on defense. We heard how aggressive Pagano is. I haven't seen it. Lastly, stop trading up. It rarely works and sends an instant message to the drafted player saying, "we think you are this great". This team needs taken to the wood shed this off-season. They have talent and know it. Sometime that is the problem. Funny be afraid to cut dead weight.

I love the color commentary! ?

Everyone lauded the Mack trade. Now, they are lauding the Raiders because they got Jacobs with one of those picks. If we were winning like last year the narrative would not have changed.

I didn't get to watch. What happened with Shaheen? Heard a lot of negative

Right now, Trubisky is barely average, depending on what stats you look at. We can win with that. What we can't win with is poor play calling, no pass rush, porous line, missed field goals and stupid penalties. If our defense finds its inner dog, the offense has to be just average to compete.

That's a good point and I've had to reign myself in at times, as well. Our excitement of having a team in the window has us all drooling. Hopefully the growing pains of this year will bear fruit next.

This team needs a couple of things before a new QB. (OL and another good pass rusher) We also have nobody that can blow the lid off a defense. Trubisky is not the problem. He is only part of the solution. Nagy has to create an identity with his offense and he doesn't have the parts that Reid has.