Mongo3451

I didn't get to watch. What happened with Shaheen? Heard a lot of negative

Right now, Trubisky is barely average, depending on what stats you look at. We can win with that. What we can't win with is poor play calling, no pass rush, porous line, missed field goals and stupid penalties. If our defense finds its inner dog, the offense has to be just average to compete.

That's a good point and I've had to reign myself in at times, as well. Our excitement of having a team in the window has us all drooling. Hopefully the growing pains of this year will bear fruit next.

This team needs a couple of things before a new QB. (OL and another good pass rusher) We also have nobody that can blow the lid off a defense. Trubisky is not the problem. He is only part of the solution. Nagy has to create an identity with his offense and he doesn't have the parts that Reid has.

Yeah, I didn't see much from him either. Sorry, can't help with your question.

Watching this game live yesterday is not easy to describe. My dad and I talked a lot about what we saw and processed and we agreed on several key points. Akiem Hicks is missed more than we previously thought, as the defense has not played as dominating since. Roquan Smith is back. He was everywhere yesterday and runs like a bullit. Defense still playing underneath coverage to soft. Overall though, defense still really good. Now the bad part. Nagy called a decent game until it counted. And there were 4 key times it counted and and all four times he failed. Trubisky missed Shaheen in the end zone, missed Gabriel wide open and never once looked off his primary receiver. However, he played well enough to win the game with some of the good things he did. IMO, he's salvageable. Nagy dialed up a good running game, again, until it counted. Statistically and with the eye test, we dominated that game. I've never heard a team get booed louder going into halftime with a lead. But it happened. Piniero shit his pants today, yet I still don't blame him. It was just ugly and unfortunate. Nagy has to get better for Trubisky to get better.

Pops is so stoked! He's already bringing the energy only a 74 badass can bring. It's on!

If we somehow flop this game, I'm in for some trades for draft picks only. I would think Floyd, Prince, Davis, Trevathon, Leno, Massie, Patterson, Gabriel and Burton could all fetch something and alleviate cap hit next season. Keep all rookie deals and again trade for picks only. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

We are taking my Pops to this game. He's a former football player, lifelong bears fan and never been to Soldier Field. This is truly a bucket list item. I got us 4th row seats on the 10 yard line, so that should make it a great experience. Bears in a beat down!

We'll definitely have to draft a QB, even if it's for backup duties. Bray should be able to supplant Daniels next year. Keep the succession going until you get a winner. I personally like the every other year plan, unless you know you got a dud the previous year.

Something I found thought provoking. If Vic Fangio were to be fired today, would you sacrifice Pagano to get Fangio back?

Two things Trubisky desperately needs needs to work on: 1) Pre snap read. He cannot miss seeing wide open receivers when it's 3rd and any distance. 2) He has to start hitting on some deep balls. It's almost like he's afraid to put it on the money out of fear of interception, so many overthrows. If he can't hit a deep ball, the run game will never work. The defense has no respect of getting burnt.

On MT specifically: he needs to know when he hits the 5th step of his drop that he's either firing or already looking elsewhere. If he picks up his mental rhythm, he can eventually hit some throws. There are throws you can make to a covered receiver that we see made all the time that he is not attempting. Always remember, the recover has the advantage. It's almost like he needs an ego. Stop playing scared or he's going to play himself out of a job.

Nothing will get better unless Trubisky starts hitting the deep ball. Without that, ball control portion of the offense will remain non existent. Without that, the OL can't keep up with varying degrees of pressure. Without that, Tarik Cohen has no room for explosive plays. Without that, Nagy can't call a good balanced game. Time for designed plays to specifically go deep even if the issue is forced.

Third and 5 and you can't see the slot?

Don't give up just yet. They had a bye week to fully digest the wake up call. I'm hoping/expecting to see more physicality today...

As much as we've thrown to TE this year, I'd say dump them all and sign some extra tackles, lol...

Exactly! The entire offensive side of the football was not mentally or physically ready to start this season. All on Nagy. I just don't know exactly how.

No, for many reasons. I truly can't see a scenario that would be positive. First, Gordon wants paid. 2nd Davis and Cohen were both good last year, so what's the difference this year? Montgomery is a good young back. Lastly, fix the blocking and everything else falls into place. (Including the passing game)

My thoughts exactly when I was discussing this with my pops.

Let's see who wins the first Superbowl!

That's why Jason and I have preaching OL on this forum, going on 2 decades now. Next man up!

That's true. My Colts buddies a at work are wondering why they haven't cracked the top ten on ESPN's poll.

Travel plans weren't too big of a deal. My main problem is that he does not have his team ready to play. It's also bothersome that he didn't have a clue how bad his OL was going to start the season. How do you show up with a complacent pre season, in your second season. That's after winning coach of the year. That's pretty cocky for a second year coach. Every Sunday, if you don't fight with everything you have, you will lose. Leno and Massey were decent last year. What happened? Complacency, overconfidence? It's certainly not age or injury. Did they not know Long was washed up. They would have known if they tested him. Then there's play calling...