Mongo3451

Happy Holidays from my family to to yours. And ? Down!

You would be correct. It definitely has to do with the success of Mahomes and the flash of Watson. Both of those QB's had a much better situation to start their careers than Trubisky. I still think our guy will be ok in the long run.

It was only the Lions but he's getting betterrrr!

All your fault Adam, lol...?

They have Alshon "soft tissue" Jeffery. Remember how people cried when we didn't overpay for him?

You need to stop bro. It's starting to play out like a prequel to the worst horror movie ever. You know how our luck goes, lol!

Undrafted at that...

I looks to me that Nagy is adapting and Trubisky has looked serviceable the last two games as a result. Notice the amount of bootlegs and rollouts? Now, get a couple of running plays that work.

I get it, but it's his second year. We all know he got too cocky. Let's see if he learns from it. Aside from that abysmal pick Trubisky threw, he had a decent game. The OL pass blocked a little better too. I can only remember a couple of head scratcher plays. I think Helfrich needs to go before anyone.

Pace is tied to Trubisky. I really doubt they will use one of their high picks on a QB. OL is deep this year in the second and third rounds. I'll be disappointed if two of our first three picks are not OL. If any QB is to succeed, they have to fix that OL.

I would honestly keep Patterson. At 235 pounds, still the fastest guy on the team. He plays physical too, so why not convert him to the Burton role? If he fails at that, he's still the best special teamer we have. Burton and Gabriel definitely have to go.

This...

I think Leno got lazy in off season conditioning and prep (weight room) Just got engaged and a fat contract. We need a guy like Quentin Nelson that just comes in with an anumal attitude and let rub off. Drafting new guys will help, but if you get that animal it even better.

I'm not against that at all. It has always been my philosophy that OT's can be converted before guards.

Yeah, it's Coward and Leno at a minimum.

The Vikings did this a couple of years ago. They got rid of the whole OL one season. I don't think we do that, but I do see at least 2 new staters next year.

And we all thought locking most all of these guys up was brilliant before the season started.

Look at the video on the Horstead thread. Nobody can succeed with this OL.

I am a big believer in not throwing out the baby with the bath water. I'm pretty sure if an internet blogger has this down, someone in the chain of command of the Bears does also. I'm sure the proper heads will roll.

Honestly, after watching this break down on film, Helfrich and Hiestand need to go. Hiestand was getting a pass due to past success. Not after that. Somebody needs to buy Montgomery a crown of thorns, because he was getting crucified at every carry. Lastly, can we get off Mitchs' back for a second. My god he played a decent game under those circumstances.

I think the kicking game goes hand in hand. The team is ill. Everybody has to be their best version of perfect, all the time, or we can't win. Now everyone is tight. Tight kickers miss kicks. Tight pass rushers don't get sacks. Tight QB's overthrow the wide open guy. Tight receivers drop passes. Right now, they are all tight because they care. It means it's fixable. When you start hearing about on fighting and complaining, game over.

Like John Fox...

I'm wondering what we could have drafted with those traded picks that could fill holes in the roster. Two firsts and three thirds is allot of points on the draft value chart. Just to think, we could have traded back in the 17 draft and got Jamal Adams and Mahomes. Woulda coulda, lol!

Ok, you saw the title and rolled your eyes and sighed, thinking "didn't we say this about another guy?", lol! Let me start by asking, has Trubisky had a clean pocket all year? Has he had a running game all year? Has he had a TE all year? Nagy added to the complexity of the game plan without the benefit of crucial components and work in pre season games. Here's what I think he needs: 1) new OC, someone who understands running game and play action. Trubisky has shown good accuracy on throws under 20. Those can turn into huge plays with YAC. 2) stud TE, one that can run and block. A safety blanket like Jason Whitten is huge on 3rd down. 3) OL, OL, OL. Draft two, sign one 4) get a WR that can blow the lid of the defense. We have our number one, plus guys that can work underneath. Nobody on our entire team scares anyone deep. Mitch is not a quarterback that is ever going to be elite. He doesn't have the brain for it. What he can be is a well above average game manager if he has a running game and protection. If you want razzle dazzle in the offense; how about a naked bootleg or a freakin rollout for goodness sake? Mitch showed promise last year with a big growth spurt and the surrounding cast, including coaches, let him down. I'm in the lot of blaming everyone around him. Shitty line, no TE, most drops, and overconfident coach. I don't know if Nagy would ever be willing to do what Mitch needs. If not, he needs to go. If Pace doesn't have the balls to control Nagy, then he needs to go too. I would like to see them all stay and try to fix this. Nagy needs to really sit down and tailor the offense to what the QB does well. But remember, it all starts up front with personnel.

Could was player rep and was not conforming to conversation Fox wanted in the locker room. Remember how Fox was praised for building our winning culture during last year's run? Pace being a young GM is definitely going to listen to a coach that had been there, done that.