Mongo3451

Yes they were. We'll find out now if it's players or coaches...

I think it's minimal. Anyway, he's offering nothing, so it's time to give someone else the roster spot. If you can save enough for the vet minimum, I'm good with it. Same with Spencer, Davis, and Spaeth...

Agreed fully. One thing to note is that Toub is no longer here with the blocking schemes Hester thrived under. Watching Jacoby Jones last night tells you how much speed Hester has lost. His 2.7 mil will be better used elsewhere. Trade him if possible. If not, cut him...

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read this article yesterday. I'll add that it makes Barrett Jones higher on my radar than ever. Garza is no spring chicken and grooming his replacement is a pretty big deal. So, I'm thinking sign a solid young OG and trade down and pick up Jones. Nice post AZ...

Could be a clone...

Young, Mariuchi... They all look alike.

Ha! Good one...

You not knowing what it is, in and of itself, is a gross violation...

I don't think you know which 2 they are... Who does at this point?

I rank my faith in this order. Webb, Scott, Louis, Carimi. I think all 4 are on the team next season, but who knows...

Totally agree, but not with this situation. I think our young tackles and Scott are redeemable. I think the only instances where it is warranted is if Louis doesn't make it back and there is also no option to backup Garza.

Three new OL is too much. Continuity is huge to an OL and some of our guys are still developing. 40% change is enough for one year. We can invest in more next year as well. But LB, TE, WR and DL also need addressed.

Alright dude, you broke a guy code on this one. If you want to crack on someone, you don't ask for help in doing so. Bush league...

i can live with that if he's healthy.

Disagree again. There are more large schools generating college ready players than ever before. There never used be any type of nutrition, strength and conditioning at a lot of schools. Now, you have year round programs and camps dedicated to grooming the next generation. As far as talent pool depth and 1960. That's just speculation until you can give some data that tells me there are the same amount of "quality" kids playing football than 1960. Wrong again. With TV and ineternet coverage, better athletes are going to smaller schools because they no longer need to attend Notre Dame to get exposure. And the smaller schools are simply getting better. Part of that is because there are so many kids playing football that are better. The scouting process has also broadened to glean that talent. My argument stands on the quality of the high school pipeline. They are simply bigger, stronger, faster, practiced and more savvy than 30 years ago. So, in your opinion, parity is a result of poor play vs what I think is better play. I think this subject needs more input from the rest of the group.

I completely reject this theory. The population growth of 62 million could support 5 teams. The population in 1976 was 8mil/team in the NFL. Since then, the ratio is 12.4mil/team. Plus we can factor the emergence of Samoan players makes the pool deeper.

Your spreadsheet came up with Chris Williams as the starting left tackle. It spreaks for itself...

How do trends usually work with 24 year old tackles? They usually get better until they are 28. For someone who rates slightly worse than average, Webb is showing that he CAN contribute. He's worth keeping. I'm not calling for him to keep his job if he hasn't earned it. I'm just calling for people to look past him being put in a in a position he should not have been in. It easy to hate a guy that was the worst tackle in the league 2 years ago that didn't deserve his position.

What does everyone think his price tag will be? I'm not sure how to value him...

Webb is trending up. I know that makes you nauseous, but it's true. He went from a horrible LT to a slighly below average LT. That's with him lined up next to two of the worst OG's in the league. If the trend continues with the skillset he possesses, he should be average to above average this season. That's not bad, especially if he moves to the right side or gets a good OG next to him.

They were bad the year before because of Tebow. Teams were allowed to stack the box out of zero fear that Tebow would burn them. He sucked out against us at a time we were sucking.

4 million? I just don't know how to value him. He was not very good last year IMO. How much can a player his age recovery/improve after injury?

That's the effect Manning has on a offense. I would truly be happy if we broke into the top half.

I think Lane Johnson is the next Joe Staley.