Mongo3451

Let that be a lesson to you...

Aren't we a little chippy? When you make a statement like that, just know it better be on point or we will get you. I know I read that, due to sample size, we couldn't quantify how horrible he was.(BTW - you never used the word horrible like you claimed you did) Has was obviously and undoubtedly the worst lineman in the NFL last year regardless of how long he was the starter. Back to the turd analogies. No matter how much poop you smell, it still smells like poop and never stops smelling like poop.

Sample size? How much did anyone need to see before he killed our team? He was the starter and got yanked in favor of someone equally horrible. He and Rachal may not be fit for the CFL.

Maybe structure the contract so it looks better to the public. Like 2 years 10mil with all sorts of incentives he will never get.

correct

It's not super clear. but in a nutshell, I think the OL should be built inside out and he thinks Left to right. It may not be winnable.

How about a post eating crow and an acknowledgement of greater knowledge? It will be a tough pill for whoever loses.

How about the believed in him so much they traded for him?

We agree in principle, just disagree on the how to do it. I'm willing to make a wager for fun...

I remember some of us clamoring for him last year. I'm thinking we'll stand pat at tackle and upgrade the interior, as it is worse off.

While I agree with the turd analogy, I think you tend to exaggerate when you portray others expectations of the OL unit. Webb in particular. Starting with the assumption that we don't know what we can count on down the road. Do we want to blow it all up and start from scratch? The answer is yes of you want to lose. We only have the ability to address 2 maybe 3 OL positions this year. So do we start by replacing arguably our most promising , young and least expensive resource? The math and logistics are bad there. While we may want nice upgrades in improvement from all our OL, that's just never going to happen due to the talent margins in the NFL. The order of importance for our team is OG, OG, C, LT and RT in my opinion.

Yup!

Manti in the 1st wouldn't go well with me.

Make it so then. Blocking TE's are obsolete IMO...

PFF's official stance is that his rating of -.2 is considered average. I think...

We could lose tons of money that could be spent elsewhere, then pay cap hell later. For that reason people talk about Peppers value, even though he was the best player on the team last year.

I'm in that minority as well. And completely agree the interior needs beefed up before anything. Let me add that Webb is in a carreer make or break season. In that, if he has an above average season he will cash in big time at the age of 25. While I'm not confident he will make that jump, I'm more confident he will make a slight one. Average at his price is good for me if we upgrade the atrocious play on the interior.(That is where the room for the greatest improvement lies) As far as Carimi is concerned; he needs to show his knee has healed and he can carry extra weight in his achor area to be an NFL player. He looked like a TE last year and if that doesn't change he'll be a camp cut. I'd love to see reports on what he is doing this off season. Brown looks as if he may be an option at a rotational G this season.

I don't mind it. We'd save about 5 mil a year by drafting him and letting Melton walk. That would free up money for Levitre, then draft Barrett Jones or comperable in the 2nd. Of course that's not going to happen, because of the timing between FA and draft.

But, can he jump out of a swimming pool?

Spencer was the singularly worst player on the team last year. I do not want him back.

No charges per PFT.

I like the concept. Backup QB'S come in with little prep and being able to run a little would be a good fallback.

Ok, I'm looking at this with a half full glass. My hope is that this will be a wake up/grow up moment in his life. Mine was at 22. Maybe his will be at 24.

Webb has never been handed anything. If he was named starter, it's because he earned it or everyone else sucked worse than he did. They gave him Williams to compete against last year and IMO he clearly beat him. That will be arguable with others who saw it differently, but I agreed with the staff on that one. Webb has all the tools to be good. My problem with him is between his ears. He seemed to grow up a bit last year after the Cutler reeming. Hopefully, he understands how important he is to the success of this team and will continue to improve. It's funny, nobody has complained about Carimi being handed his job and he's worse than Webb. We really need to worry more about OG.

That's the weight he has always looked tohave had. College teams tend to inflate stats as part of the hype machine. At that size and lack of speed, he will be spiralling down.