Mongo3451

I agree. If our D is left alone, we know it's top ten. The new DC is going to put his stamp on his new D though, so we will absolutely see some new looks. There is no way he's gonna want to hear that he's winning with Lovie's D, cause he's already going to be doing it with Lovie's people.

I would pay it, if it were incentive laden. He probably wouldn't like my guaranteed money offer very much.

Just think, the Colts are gonna be about 55m under the cap after they cut Freeney. They might be a player for one or two OL.

Love it! But you forgot Warmack. Unless Carimi fully recovers and gets his size, strength and quickness back, you gotta put Scott there. Unfortunately, if he can't, he's gotta go and Webb would be the backup in grooming. Clady-Warmack-Jones-Garza(while Louis heals)-Carimi/Scott/Webb

If we signed Clady and Warmack was there at 20, my life would be complete. It would make losing Urlacher painless...

It's just an added bonus and something for the defense to think about. Wasn't meant to be the focal point of the topic.

I saw pretty much the same from ESPN. He cannot fully participate because of the elbow injury.

In Trestman's indtroductory presser, he stated that we will dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's something that hasn't been preached since Ditka. Hopefully, we get our wish and spend picks and money on the unit until it is solidified.

Last point on the matter. Antwaan Randle El. See career stats. Robinson is at least as talented. Take special notice to the passing stats from the WR position. Then, remember the impact he had on many games. Oh, and he played QB for IU. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3...twaan-randle-el

I agree with getting a "young" FA LT. That is the quickest and best fix for various reasons. We are also in agreement to draft a stud, G/C early. I also agree that Webb improved last season and is still growing. But, if we are left with Webb as our starter at LT, an LT for development must be drafted high to ensure depth and competition. Webb is an individual that is highly talented, but seemingly not bright and immature. He must be pushed or moved out of the way.

I get what you are saying and agree it's part of the equation. I also have seen too many better options open as the ball was being forced to Marshall. Your hope for Trestman echoes through us all.

Good point! Thanks

Yup! That's it...

Agreed on the 6th round. Also, would not mind taking a look at the Johnson kid as a potential pick.

He definately hates settling for the short gainers. I think that has added to his sack total as well, as he tends to wait at times.

I understand the concept but... How do we get out of that cycle? We've been doing it since 05' and it may have already cost us what we were trying to get all along. And now, it is still preventing us from getting there.

Thanks...

I tried. LOL...

People have tried to develop him. Just like we all keep talking about developing Cutler, yet he still has all the mechanical flaws. Difference is, Cutler has throwing skills underneath it all. I'm a Tebow fan, but simply believe he's become a distracting sideshow. Not of his doing, of course. I personally think a young QB should be brought in to develop the way Trestman wants.

Good morning. Still not the point and you know it. You keep bringing up QB and that was never the thought, but you are going to hold onto that lie, because that's all you have.(Thus the reason you didn't answer my question to you regarding how he throws compared to other wr/rb positions) As far as tone, it's more than likely compensation. The fact that you failed to understand the post is truly a mistake on my part, because I didn't type it in crayon. Hope that's clear or do I need a spreadsheet? Back to the topic. I'm saying someone will take a chance on Robinson by the 6th round because is a football player that can provide value. The only thing I care to hear from you is your opinion on him as a 6th round wr/rb/pr/kr.

I think everyone feels your apprehension to drafting OL high, but stats still show that highly drafted OL prospects pan out at a better rate than any other position. Just think of we stopped trying to get laid after a few bad efforts??? Don't lose hope bro. We gotta get em one way or another.

You didn't know what you were talking about, because we were not talking about a QB. But you had to jump in with your usual dickish tone. I gave you a taste of your own medicine. Riddle me this, how does he throw as a reciever or running back? A smart guy like you should answer that easily...

With due respect, I'm not talking about him at QB. Context is everything. As a WR/RB he CAN throw the ball. The reason he its no longer a QB is due to a nerve condition in his elbow. Hes not a gimmick guy, but someone that can line up in the slot, backfield or returner.

They are better. Rodgers gets to run his full arsenal of plays. Bears can only run deep routes when the D is geared for the run or in max protect.

Bowlingtwig suggested 6th round as a WR, which was the value part of the convo. I'll dismiss the rest since you obviously don't WTF you are talking about.