Mongo3451

I suck at it, but my 14yo son is an assassin.

I sure hope you didn't get a true opinion from that article. That's typical JA. Nobody ever knows what he's up to, until it's done. I firmly believe Olsen will be traded if the right pick or player comes availible.

I'm actually good with trading Olsen for a 2nd rounder. If he's not a priority in Martzs system why not get value now. In a perfect world, we'd have a new staff, but we don't. We are stuck with what we have, so we might as well try to make the best of it.

You answered your own question Bradjock. DL in general is our greatest need. Peppers can be boom or bust. (Just like Cutler) IMO - he is the only player out there "capable" of making the rest our the defense better. Peppers, healthy Url and Pisa, 90% Tommie and one surprise could make for an interesting defense. This year in particular, we are going to have to get pressure and takeaways due to our offense. They will score, but will also give it back. If we are putting 20+ points every week, the D will have its chance to pin its ears back. We need a FS badly, but Peppers is the only X factor I see.

Gotta disagree with your take on the article. They are saying Omiyale will compete for a position, but will be left to compete for one of the those positions. Basically saying they are not going to jerk him around and hinder his development. (Like they have others) To me this is a good thing. I wish they would learn this with SS and FS. I also wish they would stop evaluating talent in shorts as well. Lovie keeps saying, "we'll have to wait until we put the pads on". But how often do things ever change after pads go on?

Yes Manning was drafted as a true FS, but he has shown he has no instincts for the position. What I do agree and disagree with is your assessment of his play at nickle. He's good at blitzing from the nickle position. Other than that, it's back to his poor instincts on coverage skills. Now, if he play SS he gets more blitzing opportunities which is good. On the other hand, he's still a safety and prone to be toasted due his slow read abilities. IMO - he needs to remain a special teamer and defensive backup only. I think they are trying to find something he competant at besides returning kicks.

Glad you are OK! Best of luck with the recovery.

I would like to have a stable of Forte, Westbrook, Bell and Wolfe. Dump McKie. He was avg to below in every aspect of his game.

Better now than never... Regardless, something has to be done. It's not like it's a huge investment, he's already on the team and not a very good corner. The upgrade at safety may be worth the gamble. You could even play your corners tighter.

If he wanted, yes. In a heartbeat.

As in "see Albert Haynesworth"... I definately agree that buyer beware!

He actually played safety in college. I realize it doesn't resemble the pro game, but he does have some experience at it. I can honestly say Tillman would come in and be an instant upgrade at FS. Make note, that I have no factual evidence to back this up, but to me he's a corner trapped in a safety's skillset/body. If you move him, leave him. I have had such a problem with our staff thinking everyone is interchangeable. If he's practicing as a safety, he's not thinking like a corner anymore. I agree, but... Long term solution will be determined after Lovie is gone. It's plain that he has no clue on how to develop a FS.

I'll jump on my soapbox for Tillman to FS, again, if we signed Robinson. Moving corners to FS has extended the carreers of a few good corners in the past. I'll disagree on the injury risk being greater for Tillman at Safety. His shoulders are the main problem and that may be alleviated by playing from the angle a safety would come from vs a corner.(more squared to the point of attack) Never know. I still think Tillman is average to below at CB and feel he could be really good. Anyway, you'd upgrade two positions at once by doing this. I wouldn't count on it though because the staff is so hard headed, they would probably move Bowman to safety and say, "we're going to play our 2 best corners and our safeties are interchangeable".

I'd actually like to see D Manning stay as a special teamer. On the other hand, I totally agree with you on seeing him the secondary. He as gifted as I've seen, but dumber than a fencepost. If other step up on kick returns (IE:Hester, Knox) We should send Manning packing.

Disagree, on the knee issue alone. Agreed that if Peppers attitude comes into question, I don't want him either. The main thing I don't want is a player that may not have it anymore. Add to that, our med staff sucks. I would want a clean bill of health from someone other than our doctors to even consider him. Looking at Peppers: Can anyone tell me what his supporting cast of pass rushers look like. I've seen Peppers enough to know he's a beast, but was he doing it alone or with a supporting cast? It makes a difference in trying to predict the impact he'd have on our team. (From pass rush to secondary)

I think we'll have a better likelyhood of getting Rolle. Our staff simply thinks pass rush is the key to the kingdom. So, if any premium money is spent, it's likely to be on a DE. FS being an ongoing need is also cheaper. I can see a CB drafted with our 1st pick though. Not how I'd do it, but I'm not JA.

Start renouncing. When they decided to keep Lovie they gave up being competetive. Reason: Money. Why would you think they would spend freely on free agents? The franchise may be in limbo until we have a new CBA.

Totally agree. BTW - Nice Berrian analogy.

Thanks for the insight.

I honestly feel, it wouldn't matter because Cutler will be on the field. Like I said, I'd take him as a 3rd. If Martz has other ideas, I don't want him to hinder Hanie.

I think Rolle is a FS.(not positive) Honestly, I think he may be pretty good there. If you say he looks like he's going to be great, I'd be all over him in the 3rd. Going back to Florida State, before he went Rhodes Scholar, he was a bubble player to be drafted, because he wasn't considered special. However, he really did impress folks at the Senior Bowl. So, he may have matured as an athlete or simply picked up what they were doing faster than everyone else due to his smarts.

Sounds like he is in a parallel universe with Lovie. That being said, I'd take him as a #3 / player coach. I do not want Hanie's development hindered.

There is distinct difference between leaders and winners, so please don't lecture me on my choice of words. Before you read to far into my next statement; go into it with knowing that I think Cutler is on the cusp of being a winner and a leader. Leaders are people who find a way to be followed. Winners are people who find a way to get things done. Throwing red-zone interceptions is not a winning way. Making a 4th quarter drive to win the game or ice it for the D is a winning way. 28 INT's, not... Some guys just have that ability to find a way to win. It's not made up. It's time tested. The guy for our SB team that should have been a leader, shit down his leg. It's sab for a team to say "our center was the leader of our offense".(not going to find many championships there) If my QB is not a leader, I don't want him. Name any great QB that wasn't a leader. Name some great QB's that were not winners. Again, it's not a superstition. And when commentators say someone's a loser or a winner, that's what they mean. You have to be a leader to be a winner. I can see how people can call Cutler a loser, because he makes plays that really cost a team. He can also back it up with brilliance. Until he unbalances the scale in his favor, he will be a loser. On leadership, he's got a lot of the components like toughness, and confidence. But he really needs to work on his demeanor. He should never hang his head again and keep the fire in his eyes. Say what you want, but I will not relent on this stance because I know it to be true.

Seems like a great kid. He's got hard work and intelligence on his side.

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