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Connor, We are in 254.(north end zone, as well) I don't know the seat# at this moment. Be cool to meet you tomorrow.

Connor, We are in 254.(north end zone, as well) I don't know the seat# at this moment. Be cool to meet you tomorrow.

I think Moore and Stafford should be reversed, as Stafford started it. The Fairley fine is bullcrap. (15K for a millionaire for intentionally trying to hurt a franchise QB.) I wonder if the fine would be the same if Peppers plants Rodgers on Christmas day??

Heading to Chicago tomorrow for a great weekend. The cherry on top will be my first Bears game at Soldier Field.(Girlfriend got us tickets!) If anyone wants to meet for pre/post game libations. Let me know.

I think Martz called an appropriate game for the scenario the defense handed him. I also believe he is good with a short leash. There were the gadget plays in the game that drove me nuts and that was it for my Martz wrath. The flip toss to Forte was completely inappropriate for the down and distance. Now, if they were in a pro set and faked to Forte and flipped to Clutts, that may have worked. But, when Forte is X percent of your offense, he is always going to be keyed upon. (especially on 3rd and 1) On the other hand, the halfback option is a great play call if you have the dominant running game. Maybe Martz saw an opportunity with a cheating safety earlier that we didn’t pick up on. My two issues with that play were that it was not needed and Forte did an atrocious job of selling it. I called that play on his first two steps. (as I think most of us did) I would have much rather he save that for Green Bay on Christmas or the playoffs. Better yet, when Forte knows how to sell it.

Here I am! Honestly, that's not a good game to make that analogy. I'm sure it could have been more of a blowout, but the high road is good practice against a division opponent. Good game!

What are the details of what he it's asking? I've not heard.

Stats are like one of my favorite sayings; "The greatest lie of all is the truth cleverly told". Forte's stats indicate hes the best in the league and one of the worst. It's how the stats are interpreted by film and what the offensive scheme is demanding. How is the player at practice, the locker room and community? Is the player picking up blocks, first downs and doing the dirty work to get your team in the red zone? How many wins did this player have a direct impact in? Forte should get a top 5 RB contact. How hard has it been for us to find a guy like this?

I thoughtCutler had good, but not great game. He did make some great throws, but made some poor ones as well. Couldn't agree more. At one point, he had at least 3 3rd down conversions. Steady with great hands. Love Earl. Forte had those fumbles, but was really good. Fingers crossed fir the kittens. Hell has truly frozen over for me! I am beginning to fall in love with this unit. (run wise) Louis is a beast. I dont care where he starts, but he has to be out there. He helps give our OL identity. Move him back to RG when Carimi is ready. Carimi is nasty too. Those two should fuel a nasty right side for years to come. They should take turns slapping Webb in the huddle to keep him aggressive. Agreed Disagree. Can't do that with Vick at QB. When you throw your hands up, you give up the ability to shed the block if Vick pump fakes, then he's gone. They got great pressure on Vick without losing containment. Great job by our DL last night. Agreed. Agreed. Side note: Starting to like this teams chances against anyone. Hate the two deep defense. Double hate Martz. He drives me f'n crazy with the some th calls he makes. Refs sucked last night. Could've cost us. Peppers is a beast and Url is still great.

You are not going to let this go, are you?

I'm thinking there is some benefit for the team to get a deal done this year. They have 18-20 mil to spend for a reason. I'm thinking they can use that money this year and it won't count against next??? LT, if you are still following the post, can you expound?

He didn't look to be moving very well at his workout. Very slow cutting and coming out of breaks.

My guess is, he became a distraction in the locker room. That's the only reason you release your best safety. With the impending signings that will need to occur in the off season. They probably decided it would help to do that business now. It sucks, because he will be needed before the season is out. I find out very understandable though.

That's something you do in the off season. Or if you are completely desparate...

My preference would be to leave Carimi where he is best suited to play. I also feel if Williams was a candidate to play LT he would have been moved there by now.

Just saw on ESPN that he has NOT decided to retire yet. Per his agent.

I think he'll have to make it over 20 return TD's to make it. Deion still has the record, due to INT and fumble returns. Devin will have to separate from Deion to be considered.

He was one of my fav's for a long time. My guess is; they probably told him he was no longer in their plans as a starter and gave him the option of retiring or being a backup. Those moves occur all the time for the respected players.

Dont get me wrong, I said F Martz from before he was hired. But, if Jay wants to be the leader and send a message to Martz, he should have called his own play. That's what Mac would have done. Jay needs to show a little more control and outward respect. I'm sure his team mates would have more respect on the high road with a little defiance mixed in. I do agree, it was a hatchet job article though.

There's a lot of truth in that article. That being said, he or we don't know the truth about what type of day to day leader Cutler is. His team mates seem to support him.

lol

I think what's the most telling is that no one would come here because of the "lame duck" situation Lovie was in. Yet another gaff by the regime. Martz is the OC no other NFL team wanted. Hmmm, we nailed that one. Typical JA and Lovie being smarter than everyone else. Turner was a scapegoat and actually would have been a better coach for Cutler to thrive under. He had the same crap OL and WR's that Martz has today. The only difference is Cutler; which I believe Turner would have protected and used more to his skillset. Too bad he had to be one of the sacrificial lambs we have seen too many of. This years candidates are: Martz, Marinelli and Angelo. If Ruskell is our new GM, I will vomit.

I admire your optimism, but find a fatal flaw in the reasoning. You are still trusting the people that have failed to deliver what has been needed year after year. What makes you think they are capable of pulling their collective heads out of their asses?

I don't think anyone is parallel to bi polar on this board. That's what being a fan is all about. Cheering like hell on Sunday and fixing the problems on Monday. I believe the underlying theme for most negative posts has been from things that have prevented us from winning the big one the last few years. This team lacks an identity and a direction going forward. I've tried to believe in the staff; I just can't anymore.

Hate our entire staff, with the exception of Toub. Angelo, Smith, Martz and Tice are ask on the hook for the OL. Its horrible when some of the posters on this board have been crying for OL for 4 plus years now and our staff can't see the need. The same can be said for more years of receiver ineptitude. I'm tired of being portrayed as being negative for being right. The ownership cheaped out on us this year, by pocketing millions at Cutlers expense. Then sent their sock puppet in front of the media to blow smoke up our asses to claim they did their due diligence. I love my team, but am overly discontent with the status quo. Lovie will once again escape unscathed by having the likes of Martz and Marinelli fall on the sword this off season. Angelo simply needs to retire. His reliving glory days of Tampa are archaic at best and his insistence on drafting unproven players in hopes of hitting the jackpot are insane. I dont know what else to say, yet my mind is full of words.