Mongo3451

I think Angelo knows the D doesn't have the talent it did a few years ago. Looking at it through the draft and free agency, he probably doesn't see anyone out there that will get us back to that level. Every stud on our D was 3 years younger then. When it comes down to it, I like the edge the staff is showing this off season. I wish they would have been calling it out the last 2 years. Anyway, we still can't believe a word said this time of year.

I have never played Madden, so I don't how to respond to your most recent disrespectful comment. If you'd like to debate topics, feel free. If you want to be a general assbag, don't reply to anything I post.

Thanks for the Suggs update. I looked for that, but couldn't find. Since he was the biggest ticket item, that changes things. Barnes was and is still top of my list, wish Housh 2nd. Now we can even pursue a Nate Washington or Devery Henederson on top of Housh.

With Tait's retirement looming, we are looking at approx 32 million to use in free agency. That number could increase if some cuts are made. Another scenario that makes this money huge is that we have no big name FA's to re-sign. I have big on re-signing St. Clair. I'm no longer on the bandwagon for signing him no matter what. If he can't be had for a decent price before FA begins, it's time to roll the dice. Who I like: Khalif Barnes. He had a down year, but didn't all the Jags. He's young and has shown his talent. He's the best remaining OT out there and provides us great flexibilty. Next up is the WR's. Gotta go Houshmandzadeh here. Orton needs a #1 this year. We don't have one and one can't be drafted and expected to fill that role this year. Housh is the ONLY reciver availible that can get this done for us. Next I'll take Terrell Suggs. He can play anywhere he wants. He would provide a consistent rush and can play DE and OLB. He's gonna cost big. DB - Chris McAlister. I think he finished the season on the DL. If he can pass a physical, bring him in to compete at CB or FS. I don't see any FS in the draft for us and we need depth at corner. Barnes - 6 mil Housh - 9 mil Suggs - 13 mil McAlister - 3 mil That doesn't leave enough for draft picks, but where there is a will there is a way. This do-able if we make a couple of cuts and re-structure contracts? What value would these players add? Thoughts... Now we can focus on the draft. 1) Hope a good OT falls to us. (solidifty the position once and for all) 2) CB, DE, FS 3a) ditto + WR 3b) Hopefully. CB, DE, FS, WR, OG 4) BPA, from here on out, remembering Url is not getting any younger, Hilly really declined last year and we can't keep a SS healthy.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune....afety-talk.html In a nutshell Lovie laughed at the thought of moving Tillman to FS. However, he didn't say it wasn't happening either. I'm close, but not quite ready to eat crow on the subject.

You know that question is rhetorical. No QB can thrive on a diet of 3 step drops.

Dangerous game this is. I have a feeling he could hurt us worse than we could him at this point.

I hate Al Davis. It seems like the market is drying up before it even opens. We have to spend the money on free agents, as we don't have much of our own to re-sign or extend. I just don't who would have a great impact for us right now. Maybe I'll put a list together later. As far as Tait is concerned, maybe he'll stay for one more year as a backup? Or will St.Clair be as reliable.

Oher and it's not even close. Miracles happen.

Agreed in general. I know a few people in the Colts org and while they say Marvin is a good guy, he can also be moody and go into a shell. You often see him sitting on the bench away from his teammates. I don't think leaving Peyton is going to stroke his ego either. IMO - unless he goes to a really good situation, he will fade to obscurity.

Just to clarify. I was trying to accentuate DHB's speed. I have no criticism of Orton's arm strength, as I think it is adequate as well.

I'm not sure Orton could throw the ball far enough to hit him on a "Go route". DHB is off the charts fast. He probably has the best accelleration I have seen from a WR prospect since Randy Moss. That's where the comparison ends, but damn he's fast. I'd still prefer OL or D in round one. But if he was availible early in the 2nd, I would consider trading up, as his upside is sick.

I'm coming out of my "bell tower" a little on this situation. But to clarify what I said, it's if you draft the right guy. You are correct in stating some players play to high, etc... In Williams case, he relies on quickness and technique which really translates into the zone blocking our OL does. If you want a mauler/road grater, he's not your guy. I actually did not say anything about him getting stronger. However, you may have read the same article on the Bears website that eluded to that. Above, I stated I am coming off the "bell tower". This is where I am now, under one condition. We must sign Gross. We must have someone, going into next season, we know can play the left side. So, if we sign Gross, I'm all for drafting an OG on day one. No Gross, I want an OT and OG day one and maybe a free agent OT. That would leave Williams, St. Clair, draftee and FA at OT. Knowing St. Clair can play inside makes him valuable still. Oh hell yeah! I have this mind though. (Gross, Williams, Olin, St.Clair, Oher) I'd put Gross at LT, he just made All-Pro at it. Then you groom Beekman for C, Keep Garza/Buenning as swing OG's. If one of the tackles get hurt, you simply slide the guard over. Bam! St. Clair was never out of my equation. I was talking some serious over-compensation. We must get this ONE thing right before we'll ever return to glory.

Until I hear Lovie, JA or Babich say it, I won't believe it. It could be yet another smokescreen. Biggs didn't even name a source within the organization. I'm still on the bandwagon!! Agreed and you can narrow it down. When all is said and done, we are probably top 5 in cap shape, due to us not having any major free agents to re-sign. If Gross is not signed by Carolina by day one of free agency, poison pill the bastards.

OL was again a weakness on the Bears last season. With the recent announcement that Tait may be retiring, the OL will be rendered weaker than it was last season. Looking into the depth of our OL, tackle is the glaring need; with the most important tackle being the left. Tait provided insurance in the instance St. Clair and/or Williams failed. IMO - St Clair was borderline at best. I don't have a direct source, but I think I remember reading that he gave up the most sacks in the NFL last season. (please correct if wrong) His run blocking was not above average either. With that being said, how do we plug St. Clair in at RT with confidence he will be an asset? How can we be sure that Williams is a good football player, since he has not played a snap at LT in the NFL? So, we know St. Clair is not a good LT, Williams may not be able to play anything and Tait (the player serviceable at both sides) retiring leaves us with zero confirmed talent. Sorry guys, St. Clair is NOT a starting caliber player, allthough his signing should be a priority. The reason LT makes sense is due to them usually being better athletes. If Gross becomes availible, we should may a play for him. In the draft, if we luck out and Oher falls to us, we should all do backflips, as he has better natural ability than Williams. Even if we get Gross, I still take Oher. Then, we can go into training camp with our young new tackles battling it out for which side they will play. You can do so much more with an athletic tackle than you can with the other positions. You can even play them next to each other if needed. Some of you may disagree, but time will always tell, you can never be overstocked with talent at this position. At this point, the cupboard is practically bare and it needs overstocked to ensure adequate talent is availible.

They must have very clear plans to upgrade the position via free agency, as there is nothing close to a sure thing in this draft. Otherwise, I don't get it. He was, though oft injured, the best safety on our team. My guess is they will get new talent at CB for "the move" we've been anticipating.

Haynesworth is a huge wildcard as a FA. GM's are very leary, as they are unsure of his performance being FA related. If he's saying that he's going to top bidder, it is a mistake that may cost him $$. Detroit has a chance to get a beast or a guy that goes totally complacent with cash in hand. If Detroit signs him, of course the latter will happen.

I liked what I saw from Lloyd on the field, but have to leave his fate to the staff, as they know what he's really like. Man he has the ability to make some great grabs. On Booker, you must think the staff are idiots (as I do ) to think they feel he may have something left in the tank. We saw what he had already and so did Miami in letting him walk.

Detroit is going to have to "overpay" to attract any top free agents. They are going have to "earn" a reputation as a team that players want to play for before they can be competitive in FA. As of now Detroit has been the toilet of the league for years and winners will not go there. On the other hand, Detroit has to be very careful who they spen on, as they may continue their string of bad luck by signing money grubbers.

I'd rather just cut Booker ASAP. He was absolutely useless last year and I'd rather reps go to someone else. As far as Tait is concerned, I'd like to see him take a pay cut and remain on the roster as a valued backup. Agree, no need for big announcements unless we are surprised by a cut.

I would like to get him if we don't have plans to upgrade the CB position. I'm still on the sign Osamuhga, move Nut to FS, and draft a pass rusher bandwagon. I also want M. Brown back in uni for the Bears. He can player coach and backup both safety positions. Vasher to nickel. D Manning to special teams, situational defender and dime package.

Don't go there, please. The talent levels are not even close to comparable. DHB is very raw VS Fitz who was very refined. DHB has questionable hands VS Fitz who was gold. DHB is off the charts fast VS Fitz who is football fast with a bad 40 time. Completely different players. If he has dreads that may be it. That being said, I really think we'll be going DE, CB or OL in the 1st. If we trade down somehow; I wouldn't mind getting him later, as I like his upside.

Welcome to the enlightened side Bradjock! We'll have the rest eating crow soon enough. Detractors show yourselves and be counted!