Mongo3451

I don't mind trading picks, but the post was for tradable players. I just want something done so we don't completely suck. Picks, players or a combination of both, I don't care. There may not be a doable scenario in the whole league. If we are lucky, we'll find a team as desparate as we are that has talent we need while needing talent we have to offer. Neither team will get killed on the deal and everybody is better. Odds are unlikely though. .

You have to able to "sell" a screen pass to the defense. About like playing poker, if you a "tell" on your hand a pro will have you read quickly. Sometimes it's coaching, sometimes personnel. I have to give coaching a pass on this as this is taught in grade school. It's more than likely we don't work on it enough, so the O is practicing it more, making it easier for OUR D to read and react. Let's judge game film, not practice on this one.

I've been thinking about our OL almost exclusively, this off season. I'm thinking we have some highly tradeable talent on this roster that we can utilize to upgrade the OL. The reason I'm talking trade is because I want a rising player, not a cap cut or scrap heap player. Here's a look at our tradeable players. D. Manning - will not hurt us to be gone. Cap friendly for whoever may want him. R. Manning -Obviously already on the block. Cap friendly for us and may fill a huge need for a deprived team. A. Adams - Looking good for us, but we are deep. Cap friendly for both. I. Idonije - Again, we are deep. Buffalo still may want. Cap friendly again. A. Ogunleye - Please no booing here. He would hurt, but an OL would help more than his loss. M. Anderson - young talented enigma. Has value for contract and potential. M. Brown - Instant help for a team that needs a FS piece of the puzzle. L. Briggs - Did not sign a monster deal, so is very tradable. We'd eat some bonus, but could net a stud player. Depth behind him. Vasher and Tillman - Blasphemy! Not really. Good players with solid market value. Again, they would hurt... Lastly, Olsen and Clark - I don't see this as a fix, as they ae currenly involved in the OL/WR solution to our woeso see anyone go. Sooo, I'm mainly looking at a plethera of D players that could be moved for the greater good of the team. IMO - the depth would absorb the shock of the loss. I'd hate to see anyone go, but I'm passionate about getting the OL stronger in a hurry. I'm not of the mindset that we have the talent on O to even be game managers. Our season may ride in the balance.

no problem here

He has great burst, with lateral movement and change of direction. Plus, being that short, he's hard to pick out of the crowd. IMO - they should rest him this week and hopefully get him up to 90% for the 3rd pre-season game.

Nice points. Especially the part about cutting Rex loose. That may be why they are looking at Simms. Simms seems to be more of that ball control guy we may be looking for. I personally don't think he's an upgrade over Rex. But, a lateral move to align the talents of the QB position may be an upgrade through continuity of scheme and gameplan.

I'm very interested, but I don't want to shell out $26.95 to read it.

They are going on last years offense and the feeling that our and special teams can not get any better. Quite frankly, I feel our OL and WR situation is worse than last year. I also feel our RB and TE situation is better. Will it be enough to off-set the worst OL in the league? Turner better have his best season as a coach this year or it will bring our D and ST down with it. I don't have any problem with 25th until I see improvement in the OL. The 3rd pre-season game should tell a lot.

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I'm surprised as well. This far into camp and we're looking for a QB? I'm of the mindset that we need to pick our starter quickly and develop his confidence. Nothing worse for the psyche' than to be looking over both shoulders. Our offense needs to develop an identity uickly or this season is over before it starts.

If the staff sees any football player in Hanie at all, no way he becomes available to anyone. Unless a vet with promise is to be gotten, Hnie sticks.

I saw him in some hustle plays 15 yards downfield. Not sure that's were we need him the most, but that's about it as far as him impressing me. But, it was his 1st pro action, so he gets a pass for the hustle.

Idonije has never really stood out to me. A lot of athleticism but just not a football player. I'd think anyone on our D has a little trade value if we do decide he or anyone else is expendable.

Best just to red-shirt Williams at this point. JA's just trying to not look like a JA for drafting him. Wolfe looked like he should get a few touches with the 1st unit. I'm thinking he's going to be a football player. No need to sweat the D just yet. They are a veteren unit that should be ready. LOL! and agreed on the recievers and Davis. LOL It's cause he's earned a reputation as a good coach by being full of shit. Exactly. Remember, when we were all going crazy for Orton a few years ago? I actually thought he was innaccurate a few times. Plus, he had allll day to throw. All told, I don't care if it was against 3rd stringers. It was better competition than he has EVER faced. The kid held up well, but let's not call him the future just yet. Playing like we have a pair may be the only option around week six. Then again, we may not need to.

What amazes me is, they are still trying to bullshit us over the severity of the injury both pre-draft and now. It is completely making JA and Lovie look like either complete moron or the unluckiest guys on the face of the earth. Here are some exerpts and a link. You decide who's telling the truth or lying. I for one am weary... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mulligan/10...mully08.article A team spokesman said the injury was not a pre-existing condition but a new problem that occurred in the first hour of the team's second practice of training camp, their first in pads. That news was met with skepticism by at least three scouts among the 21 in attendance at the game who claimed their teams had taken the player off their draft board because of medical concerns. ''I heard that on the radio,'' one scout said. ''Why are they lying about it? You know it will all come out.'' Said another: ''Our doctors said the guy would need to do something. I guess they were right.'' The Bears said Williams missed some practices as a freshman at Vanderbilt because of a back injury. General manager Jerry Angelo was adamant that the back injury is new. ''What the doctors told me, this was a new injury,'' Angelo said. ''He had injured his back approximately three years ago. He missed two or three days of practice. He had no symptoms of any kind of herniation when that injury occurred. He had no missed time in the last three years, so it's a new injury. It's unfortunate.'' Bears coach Lovie Smith said the same thing in his postgame remarks. ''We don't know anything about that,'' Smith said of Williams falling on other team's draft boards. ''He wasn't falling off ours. This injury, from what I am told, isn't a pre-existing injury, so that is what we're going with. Injuries happen in camp, and you go from there. We were unlucky a little bit with this, but Chris will be OK and we'll go from there.'' The Bears insist Williams will return this season, but there is no timetable, only word that he'll remain on the 53-man roster so he can come back. ''That is a very serious injury for a lineman,'' one scout said. ''I would be more worried about his career than this season.''

Only because blitzing and stunting are not commonplace in the 1st pre-season game.

Amen! We were arrogant when we didn't go after Brees when we should have. Arrogant when we traded TJ away in favor an unproven prick. This year, we all cried OL and we were too arrogant to 1) spend on Faneca, 2) draft more talent on day one. We signed our own, I was really proud of that. But, at what cost? Looks to be this season. We will undoubtedly have the worst OL in football. Thus wearing our defense down for another season, averaging 3 yards per carry and still not knowing if we have a QB that can play football. My cry in the off-season was fix the OL 1st. WTF do I know. Sorry for the rant, I'm just f'n pissed right now.

At this point, I go with the 6 that perform the best in TC. If Bradley gets hurt, cut him as soon as possible. If Haas out-performs Booker, by all means, cut Booker, as Haas has upside and Booker is on the downside of his carreer. Locker room leadership is completely unnessary from a wide reciever position. They are the most individual contributors on the team aside from kickers. IMO - The ones who are legitimately safe are: Hester, Davis and Bennett. We probably won't too deep in the rotation anyway, as our talent has shifted to the TE position where Des remains our best possession reciever with Davis and Olsen as vertical threats to compliment our WR's. Also, I don't think Booker is a sure thing. I also don't believe any commentary that states "we know what we have" in him. He is NOT the reciever we traded away a few years ago. He is older, slower and more injury degraded. That can have a huge impact on what he once was. I truly hope Booker makes the roster. 1) Because he's one of my favorites and 2) I have confidence in him. But, I simply don't want him on the team if we have recievers that are making more of an impact on the field.

Add Kellen Davis to the list. 6'7" big, fast and athletic.

He's a good dink and dunk guy.

I wanted two OT's day one. I wasn't dissappointed with our draft, but that was with me still thinking JA was going to bring in another vet. It's TC, I'm still hopeful help is on the way. If not, we're screwed.

I found it odd that D Manning is listed as 2nd string FS. I thought he was working as a CB. Rod Wilson and Okwo are either not developing or Roach and McGlover have progressed nicely. The left side of our OL made me vomit. Sign Rueben and another vet immediately! Overall the D looks good and the O is disturbingly unsettled. I look for them to settle in with the reciever spots soon, with a silent choice at QB. Some continuity needs to develop quickly, especially considering our OL is currently dessimated.

This off-season my biggest cry was to fix the OL 1st. It was addressed in a big way with Williams, but has been ignored otherwise with a huge void in OG play. With our current situation playing out... I’m calling it like I see it with the OL: 1)Turnover - we have lost 40% of an underachieving unit that must play as a whole to be successful. 2)Durability – Williams out 10 days and counting, Metcalf is getting fluid drained from his knees, Kruetz has an achilles problem, Garza OK but missing an ACL. 3)Continuity – We are going into our 1st pre-season game and our 1st rounder has failed to take a snap with the team in TC, our swing tackle is our best L-OG and getting no work in at it. Add to that, Tait is playing RT for the 1st time in a couple of years and must adjust. 4)Talent – Williams (who knows), Metcalf (sucks), Kreutz (aging), Garza (average) and Tait (aging) Continuity is the most important thing we are lacking at this. Without this your QB and running game is dead. Turner will again have to dummy down the offense to “max” protect the QB. This will in turn put an extra defender in the box. I also believe we are below average on talent.(that’s with everyone healthy). If the season started tomorrow, we’d be screwed! This is why Orton will be our starting QB opening day. Because even though we a month to get it together, that is not enough time to get it together the right way. Orton will provide a safer plan while the OL is hopefully gelling. I can see us making a play for additional help within the next several days. If not, I’m afraid this years offense stands to be worse than last. Thus ending the career of Lovie and Turner in Chicago. Keep your fingers crossed that JA has a plan up his sleeve.

I'm going to throw "anticipation" out there. To me this is the most important trait of any QB. Someone is always going to be open. Sometimes the QB does not see it, but the great ones always do. Rex has proven horrible at this. Kyle is not good either, but has not had the opportunity. IMO - seeing the play unfold in advance is the key to accuracy, pocket poise and making big plays.

I too believe it is the fans right to boo if they want. I just look at those guys as "bush league". If you look at things from the big picture. The fans are a big part of the team and it's success. As an ancillary team mate, I am going encourage my team mate that is striving to get better. Boo the the lazy heartless turds all you please as I may be trying to motivate them that way, as well.