Mongo3451

That's one of the reason's that the most improvement occurs in the 2nd year. These High School, then NCAA studs come in and really don't know what to expect when they hit the NFL. Unless you are an elite talent, you have to work. It's good to hear he's got it, as Cedric never did. Now's let's look forward to seeing he get's it.

I'm going with AZ54 on this one. Let's hope Anderson has another solid season. Then we go after Quinn. 1) He's affordable. 2) He should be available with a 1st round pick or something similar. Then we draft an OT and OG. Damn! I'm done talking about next years off-season. I still have hopes for this one. Anyway, the needs may change as the season unfolds.

Thanks for posting that question. I was thinking the same thing yesterday, while posting about our OL and forgot to start one.

I don't think they are all that similar. Berrians' is much better. Berrian doesn't have to become a stud reciever to earn his contract. Hester stands to lose a greater deal of money, if he under-performs. I like Hester's contract for us and Devin's growth. I think Berrian would have laughed at it.

It depends on how many years he has left on his rookie deal. It also depends if any of our rookies develop. If he could be brought in cheaply as a backup, if we let Rex go next year, it may be beneficial as we groom our 1st round QB.

Yes. If you draft a LT and he can't play LOG, you have majorly screwed the pooch. That's why I was do adamant about drafting two OT's, as you can usually convert them to OG if they need help.(It makes them more of a sure thing) Tackles usually have the premier talent.(That's why they make the big bucks) That's also why Albert rose so high in the draft, because he was rumored to have LOT skills.

Count me in as well. I'm hoping JA has one more trick up his sleave. With Hester signed, there should be intense scrutiny placed on finding an OG or another swing tackle. I'm worried about Williams for two reasons.(Unproven and unestablished durability)

Well put. If Ihad to predict, I'd say 5mil/year with incentives up to 7.5mil with 8 mil on the bonus.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Hester probably came back with the agreement that he would not risk injury in camp, while finishing the deal.

Hester really doesn't have a leg to stand on if he wants to be unreasonable with his demands. We'll have to withhold judgement until we see some actual numbers.

I would the internet critics like us are the morons before a man who's made his life's living at it. So, if you are right I'm the moron. But, if not...

I'll bet you skirts that he gets #1 money. I'll eat crow pie if he doesn't.

I think a happy medium is to pay him a solid base with incentives, if reached, place him in the upper tier that he wants.

I thinnk a happy medium is to pay him a solid base with incentives, if reached, place him in the upper tier that he wants.

Let's tear the contract up and do one up. Start with the greatest KR ever and he's only 23. I give him 4 years at 18mil, with 8 mil upfront and performance incentive. Now, to do his wr next. I want that on a 6 year deal with incentives everywere. If he doesnt hit his incentives he gets3 mil/year. If he hits them, he gets 5.5 mil. Now add the contracts los side is 7mil, high side is 10mil. Factor in the overlapping responsibilities you can the low merged would be 5.5mil, while high side would be about 8mil. So, I'll work him in at 5yr/35 mil(10mil guaranteed)

I think his trade value is great. You might get a 1st and 2nd or 3rd. Agreed, on the hold out.

I'd love to have every offensive play, every day. Imagine the debating we could provide one we get ahold of usefull film.

I have to disagree. You have equate that Hester is the greatest return man of all time, instant offense at times, provider of best field position in the NFL and future face of the franchise, on top of going into camp as a starting reciever. Hester does not have to prove to be a bona-fide #1 receiver to be paid as one. He's just that valuable in other areas.

Wrong. The Bears have been negotiating with Hester on a new contract. Angelo and Hester both made that clear. Hester is that unique and Angelo knows that. As I've said before, the scheme doesn't make Hester great, he makes the scheme great. Tell me this: How bad would have our scoring output been without Hester? Count the TD's and the field position. How many field goals did he enable us to get? I'm not saying give into his demands, because he has put Angelo in a position to where he can't give in. It doesn't mean it's not going to have an impact on our team though. My guess is that it will work itself out with Hester eating a humble pie then getting his money.

I posted this to equate to the Hester situation. It may belong in the Hester thread. Both are 3rd year players that have way outdone their rookie deals. Maybe JA and Parker will look at that as a reference. Hester should make no less than Colston, but not a lot more - IMO.

All told, we all know Hester has outplayed his contract. JA has a policy of NOT re-negotiating with 2 plus years remaining, but has shown a willingness to compromise to reward the elite of team. (Urlacher and potentially Hester) Here's what I think Hester should have done through his agent: Have Parker contact Angelo to come up with a PR spin as to why Devin is not in camp, with the agreement that he would not return until a deal was hammered out. Maybe this happened and Angelo hung up the phone. Anyway, we all know how JA likes to lowball to start negotiations off. Maybe that was enough to send Hester off the deep end. I'm really stuck in the middle of this issue. We've all talked about how unique Devins contract would have to be. I really don't want hear any crap about him being paid special team money. Regardless of position, he was aguably our MVP the last two seasons and an elite player. I don't believe for a second that the scheme or support personnel is what makes him great. He is naturally great. He is the best I've ever seen.(Including Dieon) If he's going into camp as a #1 reciever and the best return man ever, I have no problem paying him as a top reciever. That's how I'm on Devin's side. On the other hand, If I'm JA; I've been called to task by a 3rd year player being represented by an agent that I've always gotten good work done with. I'm hot as hell and have to make a stand and save face. So I tell him we'll get you a fair deal after you get your ass back in camp. Hester needs to accept the scolding and apologize to get his payday.

It's always good to hear good news, but I have a hard time believing anything Lovie says. I'm not calling Lovie out, because it's part of the game to be a BS artist. Just sayin...

I actually think this is a good move. Think of it this way: If I were another team, I would on-side kick to the Bears on a more prequent basis. 1) to keep the ball away from Hester, while trying to steal a possession and, 2) feel comfortable with the odds that the offense won't make them pay. Imagine Wolfe squirting through a hole and dissappearing to the endzone.

I love the job JA has done the last couple of years. I don’t think any GM has done a better job keeping his core players and signing picks than Angelo has. Even though we lost Berrian, I do agree with that move, as he was way over priced for his production. Minny will suffer the pain of watching Berrian grow alligator arms when Jackson throws a ball he has to fight for. I still really wish JA would have brought in a quality OG. Faneca would have been my choice to mentor Williams. IMO – Overpaying at that position would have improved the greater good, as Faneca would have upgraded 3 positions with one contract. I would have also liked to see JA package 2 to 3 picks in the draft to get another 2nd rounder to grab Henne or Brohm. Again, aside from those two things JA has really impressed me this year. He may yet have a couple of tricks up his sleeve. I still look for Rueben Brown to sign, if healthy. Or better yet, a younger cap cut from another team. I also look for him to get a good value pick for RMJ in the next couple of weeks. My hat is certainly off to him.

I'm going to say Brandon Lloyd and Garrett Wolfe on offense. Both are playing for roster spots and are explosive talents'. On defense, I like Craig Steltz and Corey Graham. The easy choice is Hester in his 2nd year at WR. I just don't think they are going to give him a huge amount of reps to save his legs