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Was he talking about Rex or Alex?... LOL Just kidding

I read that article and Hester was far from bitching. IMO - he's saying and doing the right things.

I'm still thinking they may bring Rueben Brown back. I'm a fan of Rueben's, as he is a consument pro. He's rumored to be healthy and has also been cleared to play. We can criticize his play last year, but he was playing with one arm. Before that he was our best OL.

He has been my favorite Bear since Walter.

Thanks for the pics. Two things... Tommie looks like he's enjoyed the off season buffet. And having a brainfart here, but who's #80?

I predict Orton should start. For the reasons Mulligan stated and more. I simply think Rex has a hold on the staff. I really hope they give him a chance.

name='GrizzlyBear' date='May 31 2008, 12:56 AM' post='39733'] It doesn't matter what he's done. One - He was basically red-shirted his rookie season in which he could have played. Two - He looked really good last year, right up to the point he blew his knee out. Three - He's 24 years old with a lot of football left. Four - Who do we have that can push him off the team? Five - he's relatively inexpensive. Six - You don't give up on high picks that easily, especially when they've shown promise. I could see that statement about Mike Brown and I would have argued against it. If you would have said Bradley, you would have an argument if he doesn't make it through camp, but not Dusty yet.

Thankfully you are not the GM. Getting rid of Dusty would be nothing short of moronic.

name='CrackerDog' date='May 30 2008, 03:11 PM' post='39706'] Nice to see you back. You basically summed up what we've talked about since you've been occupied elsewhere. No, we were not OK without him last year. Agreed Regardless of how he turns out, I don't see us set for years to come. Capable with no kool-aid... Running for office?

Sad thing is, they said the same thing about Benson. I remember the Enis situation well; the contract negotiation that kept him out of TC was well talked about. He comes in out of shape and underperforms, then blows his knee out just as he is finding his niche. Bout like Benson his rookie season, except we had TJ to keep him off the field. Last year, he comes in reportedly out of shape, finds his rhythm and promptly breaks his ankle. I hope the story starts to change...

Agree with the above. I want to pile on though. Berrian was horrible to the point of me questioning his stones in regards to fighting 1) for the ball and 2) breaking up interception attempts. Regarding breaking off routes, I disagree. How many times did Rex or Griese move in the pocket to create an opportunity for the reciever to break off the route and come back? I don't think we can criticize a failed opportunity that rarely if at all existed. Not sure coaching will make him any less of a pu$$y.

How many games have the Pats won by a game changing play? How many times have you heard the broadcasters remark about how they just seem to make plays when it counts? These just aren't game changing plays, they are season changing plays. Whether it is fresh legs for veterens or knowing the opposition's signals, the blatant cheating by the Pats is a stain on the game and their legacy. Is Brady that clutch? Or does he know the D that was called? You wonder why they lost the Super Bowl? Karma anyone? My Name is Earl...

Our greatest weakness is not the QB position. It is at WR. That being said, I can't find any reason to argue against what Clayton is saying. I also understand why our off-season has played out as it has. One thing I do know is Angelo really missed the boat the year he could/should have signed Brees. IMO - this is his great failed opus. Other than that, JA has made attempts to solidify the position. He has just failed. One thing I know, is if the plan shows no promise this season. QB will be on the frontburner once again and JA's neck will be on the block. I really think they believe with an improved OL and better Benson and Forte that everything else will come into play. I think it will only help validate where the true problem lies by process of elimination. Is it arrogance or blindness that is causing the staff to have faith in our passing game after losing our top two recievers? Our offense will not contribute above league average. If our D and special teams can be at top form, we will have a playoff shot.

I think you missed the boat on that comment. Prospect is what it is, if he weren't a prospect, he is proven in one way or another. Again, he is a prospect. You don't draft him in the 1st round if he's not. Agreed, but you have to pay the price to get a commodity and it would be a gamble. I really don't know what I'd do. I just know we need a QB for the future and Quinn fits the mold of a good Soldier Field QB.

name='AZ54' date='May 25 2008, 11:56 AM' post='39491'] Honestly, regarding drops, can it be any worse than Berrian and Moose last year? What I worry about is rapport with the QB and run support. While Moose couldn't separate from wax paper, he could hold a block. Berrian, would simply draw his man away as a deep threat. Add to that how bad the OL was, without good support from the WR's our run game would have been less than non-existent.

name='nfoligno' date='May 25 2008, 12:35 PM' post='39493'] I think I stated that in a previous post, but see below... Agree Harris' trade hurt last year, but really: Who saw that coming? If you can create a beneficial deal for your team, you have to pull the trigger. No more living in the past for me. I think with leadership, you also have to show your team that you are doing everything you can to be a winner. (without fear or apprehension)

name='Connorbear' date='May 25 2008, 10:34 AM' post='39485'] I guess you could get creamed with losing the signing bonus. I forget how Vasher's bonus is structured, but I wouldn't mind us biting it a little to get a blue chip prospect in at QB. Send them Rex for a backup and we start Orton and groom Quinn. I used to have a lot of kool-aid for Rex that I simply don't have anymore. Not so sure about that. If they are in need of another premium position, that may be their only bargaining chip. I really think they are desparate for CB and are playoff hopefull. If Anderson is looking good this off season, I could see them moving Quinn for a playoff shot. I'd do a back flip for that. Given his age, past and loss of position, a 5th rounder would be outstanding.

I just hope Clark and Olsen can stay healthy for the season. I see us in a 2TE set a lot this year. Plus, I see us rushing 35+ times a game. I no way do have confidence in our WR's this year.

It totally depends if the team feels someone else can push him for playing time. Having 4 corners is a good luxury to have. If one of the youngsters can step up, 1.85 mil is a very expensive 4th or 5th corner. I've also been reading that Cleveland is totally screwed at CB. I'd still love some sort of package deal to get Quinn from them. Maybe we could start talks. I know it would cost more than Manning, but maybe Vasher and Rex?...

You would think if there were any "high ground" to be gained it would be now. One would assume they have nothing to help them.

That sucks on many levels. 1) You gotta feel for the kid. 2) Will he ever contribute to the team? 3) What does this do to our talent mix?

I get where you are coming from here. But, the argument is biased based on the CBA. The owners have the agreed upon right to do what they do, voted on by the players union. The players are in violation of their agreement with the team and don't have the CBA on their side if they do the same. On a personal note, I always hope that a player gets market value for their services. I just don't see it in Url's case. He has not exceeded his contract. When he signed it, it was the richest LB contract in league history and well publicized as such. I also don't see many LB's making more money than Url to this date. If the Bears have offered additional money, he needs to shut up and take it. He's taking a huge gamble by not doing so.

Just messing with you. Hope I didn't offend.

Yes to all, I can and have seen Butkus playing 20 yards deep and intercepting passes in the deep middle. Get some tape on him. Yes, he covered TE's and ran down running backs. Yes, he could play cover two, but it would have ruined the greatest force the game has ever seen. He could have played any position on the front seven and been a HOF'er.

Plain and simple, fast is fast. And no your point will never be made because it is flat out wrong. Get out of Urlachers jock and realize he could never carry #51's, period, in any defense. You give Butkus the same nutrition, medical and conditioning as Url, he's lining up with the best of them. Oh wait, they are still lining up to catch him. Hell, back then the coaches would withhold water from you in practice because they thought it would make you tougher. You did a couple of stretches and deep knee bends and you were ready to go. Science made these athletes what they are. Blasphemy on putting Butkus at Sam or Will in any defense! Who are you the ghost of Ray Nitschke? You should go on a self imposed timeout for putting that visual in our heads. Shame, shame, shame.