Mongo3451

Has he ever? Constant under-performer per dollar...

I'm starting to do a 180 on my initial reaction. With the cap going up, the OL market took a huge crap. Looking at Jackson, he previously played really well at OG. With the Rams, he played all three IOL positions and underperformed at center, while being injured. Thuney is a stud. Even though he is 32, he's very durable. I can see him being above average for at least three years. Both guards are better than what we had. It's time to nail the center position. With IOL being a strength in this draft, I would love to see two future starters come out of it.

I've been looking hard at the IOL market. From what I'm seeing, the cap increase blew it up. Teams should be able to keep the free agents they want. It may actually drive Jenkins down to a friendly contract offer.

With this second trade, I'm starting to see EDGE or Jeanty in the first round. However, I still want pedigree youth at OL. Since IOL is so deep; why not draft two in the second? We need someone at RG and Thuney is 32 and will need someone to be ready. Please don't get too cute, Poles...

I hate this on every level. Same ol shit...

If we could draft Membou and Zabel, it might just send me to hang with Virginia. Both of these dudes are athletic and nasty. Problem with Membou is that he's a right tackle. Can he play left? I'm guessing yes. He's still 20 years old, so there's room to grow. With Zabel, I think he's going in the first.

Do you think he's a solution?

If a QB falls, someone like the Steelers may want to come up. It's a crapshoot...

That was Daniel Jeremiah. He is as good as it gets from the media perspective. I watched the entire combine drills today while doing my own research. It matches up. If IOL is the same, we don't have to use a first rounder on that or DT. That leaves EDGE, trade back or Jeanty with our #10.

This! It's because Gibbs was a huge upgrade over Swift. Whenever you can see an upgrade that you can truly weaponize, do it...

It's not my recommendation due to me being ALL IN on the trenches. But, I do see where a guy like him could be a chain mover. If we have three new guys on the IOL, he's their best chance to succeed as a unit. Big picture may be there too. Is it my plan, no. But I didn't hate it either.

Agree to disagree. Jeanty may have the best contact balance I've seen in a long time. Possibly since Walter...

Thank you. All said, if Jeanty is deemed the dude that can help the new OL and Caleb succeed, I'm in. Swift would be a good third down back, with Roschon being the third back. That would be solid.

Starter IOL are thick in rounds 2-4. All depends on free agency. Building a new offense with young OL, their number one friend is a great running back...

I like the Dalmen and Zeitler approach to upgrade the IOL. Draft your studs instead of buying them. This is the year for IOL in the draft. Same with defense bring in Young and draft a young edge. I'm to the point where we have to use our #10 on an EDGE, Jeanty or a Bowers type TE. There are good fatties in the second through fourth rounds to fill the trenches.

It's an official no.

Other than the first two sentences, it's a very solid mindset. As for the first two. Nobody builds a team around the RB anymore.

I would argue that we need DE 1. Sweat is good, but what is his best season? We need a perineal 12 sack guy...

Yeah, Jeanty is not a new thought on here. I think AZ54 scooped that thought first. At the time I was against it. But, knowing how deep the IOL draft has changed everything.

Unless we get a guy that will be a true difference maker, I think a trade down is in order. IOL is the deepest it's been in years for this draft. We can easily what we need in rounds 2-4. If there is another Brock Bowers it there, I'm taking him. Oddly enough, Ashton Jeanty intrigues me in the same way Jamir Gibbs did when drafted by Detroit. If true, that the line will be beefier and stronger, I may be leaning toward a bell cow. What better help could the new OL ask for? When establishing continuity in a new scheme, the run game always takes off first. Why not draft the best I've seen in years? Jeanty is a faster version of Marshawn Lynch. I've never seen contact balance like his. Getting a stud RB in his first five years is very smart cap wise, with low cost and high production. I'm not saying that what I'd do, but it's intriguing as hell.

Why not both? Strength and flexibility are a must in any program. I personally believe we weren't injured more or less than the average NFL team. Our biggest problems last year were concussions and ankles. What I want in a strength and conditioning coach, is someone to address each individual player. In doing so, the athlete's strengths can be accentuated while concentrating on remedying their weaknesses. How refreshing would it be to see him work with the OL coach to assess and correct Braxton Jones' anchor, through strength of body position? It would be even cooler to get Tevin Jenkins invested in an off-season training regimen and have him reach his potential. (Unfortunately, I think that ship has sailed) This is the first year that I have ever felt that ownership has taken the coaching staff seriously. Been Johnson is a details guy. Where Flus preached details, Johnson demands details. Details matter and how they are enforced matters. What I like about this year is that almost everyone is on notice.

It's kinda funny because when we drafted Smith, I questioned whether converting him to safety was the reason. I like Stevenson to stay at corner because of his physicality in the route. He showed tremendous upside in his rookie season and my expectation is that he'll get back to that.

Arthritis doesn't go away...

Why are we discussing cutting Kmet? He's a top ten TE when targeted. He stays in shape and is a locker room leader.

I wonder why Olin never got into coaching. He's a wealth of knowledge that did it the right way. He was show, short in height and arm length, yet excelled. He also had an underdog mentality. That's exactly who you want teaching up.