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I like your rating of Mahomes, because he is one of one. In my opinion, he is the best football player I have ever seen. He does it from the pocket as well anyone. He makes phenomenal plays on the move. Lastly, he does it with his legs when he needs to and he's not even considered fast. My view on Justin, on the same scale, with five being average, I give him a four. From the pocket, it's not even close and trust the most important part. On the move, Justin is an eight, with Mahomes being a ten. Running the ball, I'll give Justin a seven, mainly because he doesn't make good decisions with read option plays. People may think I'm overly critical, but it's just how I see it. As well as Josh Allen played last night, it was just not good enough. Josh Allen is an eight.
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They can gather all the info they want through Kingsbury, but I don't want him as OC. His and Lincoln Riley's offensive style doesn't translate to the NFL.
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Even though I've been critical of Justin, with him, I think we win eleven next year. Problem is, I don't think he takes us anywhere without a major improvement.
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Jason and I are soul brothers when it comes to the trenches, but he lost me with the T.O. thing years ago.
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You'll always have me on the Mitch argument. The irony, of it all, is that we have traded roles. Did I learn from my last transgression? Have you become complacent with your previous victory tour? Or are you the QB whisperer? Time will tell my friend. As always, well played...?
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I did that pre season with the caveat that Justin throw on time. He didn't, so I ended that thought process. I would love to see it, as I like Justin. It would truly be best for the Bears if he was the guy. I'm just not willing to stand up for another Mitch category.
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Put your credibility on the line and tell me Justin is just as good as Stroud. Do it!
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You may not be seeing it against one of the best defenses in the league, but Mr Magoo saw it last week. And if you are trying to tell me Justin is as good as Stroud, I'd be shocked.
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That would be an awesome thought if the QB class didn't completely suck next year. Weakest class in years. I guess anything could happen with players developing. Did we get spoiled with last year's trade back?
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That's also how people become Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. If Poles loves a guy, he's ours. Doing your market analogy gives us a solid portfolio, so did Lovie. I don't want solid. I want Superbowls. We can can keep Justin and take in a shit ton of draft capital, win 9-11 games every season and never beat Jordan Love when it matters.
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The chargers are notoriously cheap. My guess it's money.
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Andrew Siciliano said yesterday that he's pretty certain Harbaugh is done with Michigan, due to wanting to coach NFL. With Belichick probably getting Atlanta, that leaves Chargers.
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Which Rookie QB should we draft to replace Fields?
Mongo3451 replied to BearFan PHX's topic in Bearstalk
I'm merely speaking size and talent. He's a big athletic dude with a cannon. I like that he comes from a very athletic family. That develops thick skin and determination, getting beat by your older brothers growing up. -
Which Rookie QB should we draft to replace Fields?
Mongo3451 replied to BearFan PHX's topic in Bearstalk
If I knew I could trade the number one and keep number two, I would line to get Drake Maye here. I've been touting him for months. The Trubisky/Jones analogy is terrible, due to him having superior traits to both of those combined. Try Josh Allen and Justin Herbert for comps. Dude has a cannon and is athletic. -
It truly doesn't matter how good of an NFL player they were. The fact that they made the NFL shows they were elite, on the scale of normal football players. What they say matters, IF. That's IF they have done their homework. These guys are looking at the whole league. They usually aren't fully in tune with the whole picture. They don't know what route tree the was called. Nor do they know if someone ran the wrong route. They don't know the progression order that was determined in practice. They don't know what blitz pickup or hot read was called. If like to see a full breakdown from Aikman or Warner. They have the cred to tell the truth, without being football political. (Or a former OC)
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With this, you are making the same argument we've been making for Cutler, Trubisky and Fields for years. Bryce Young had shit for talent around him. When your go-to guy was cut from another mediocre team, you have major talent issues. Unless Young failed to do his film study or was a bad teammate, you absolutely cannot compare him to anyone yet. If we draft a QB this year, he will be entering a five star hotel, with a made bed and Swiss chocolate on the pillow. Bryce Young got thrown in a Motel 6 with bedbugs. Looking back at Aikman, he got murdered his first year in the league, but the foundation was firmly being laid. Dallas did it right. They may had won 5 more Superbowls if Jerry's ego didn't get in the way. We ruined Justin. Time to move on.
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I believe Zinter will go later than four. Probably sixth round. Damaged goods are a luxury.
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It's funny, all my buddies are asking if the Bears are gonna choke on Justin until we screw up a golden opportunity. I have a buddy(actually works for my wife) that used to play WR for Spurrier. He's been on me for supporting Justin the last two seasons. He never says too much, but I pinned him down on it. He says, 'he said ain't getting me the ball right". What? I'm like, why? "Too late in my route". That's why Drake Maye is my guy.
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When I played, the coach would circle a player on the chalkboard and tell us, "he needs to go"! This is from an old school coach that played defensive tackle at Penn State and was drafted by the Baltimore Colts in the late fifties. That being said, he never asked us to hurt anyone. He always demanded that we concentrate on destroying our opponents will to play. He always picked their teams' star. Good athletes don't want to injure. They want to hurt! Huge difference. That's why the Forest Gregg Packers will always be hated. They were coached dirty.
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Is there a Rooney rule with assistants?
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I got my Combine pass today. If anyone is interested, you have to download the NFL One Pass app. Instructions are easy.
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I prefer one of the top three as well. I would eliminate anyone that has not called plays in game.
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At some point, we have to really look at the fact, Justin is going to want to get paid. Danny Dimes got 40 a year. Is Justin worth the 50, he's going to expect? Can our team survive it?
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I'm not trolling you, but no. Not true.