Mongo3451

Zach Wilson and Trey Lance were never labelled generational. Neither was Fields. In the last fifteen years, only Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence got that label. This year, the experts are saying Williams and Maye. Fields has had three years to improve his mechanics and release time. Fail. So what if he can run and his teammates like him. Guess what? They like winning more. What you saw with Bagent is what you are going to get. Preparedness, moxy, quick release, accuracy and leadership. Fields can't even show a sense of urgency, because he is too damn cool.

I'd masturbate myself with a cactus if we could get that. So, yes I'm all in on trading Fields.

I like that, but still draft one of the top two. If Bagent still balls out, you got trade deadline bait.

They tried that at the beginning of the season and it was miserable. When they asked Flus about it, he said, "you have to be able to be successful from the pocket to succeed in the NFL". Justin said, a couple weeks later, "that he needs to play free-er". We've seen the failures of Justin in the pocket. We've seen the successes of Justin playing free. My problem with all of it is, we are still surprised when he does something great. And we are getting sick of him "not seeing it" especially when are screaming, because we see it. Through three years of Justin, we are still making arguments for and against, just like we did Trubisky. All the while, Trubisky was better. I don't care what anyone says about Bagent. He is already better than Fields. I'm done with the lack of urgency that Mr Cool Justin displays every time he gets on the field. Every cool motion he does gives the defense another millisecond to react. I'm out...

Fun fact. Tyson Bagent was the first un-drafted Division II quarterback to win a football game since 1950. And this guy called it first!

He just signed a multi year extension before the season. But, no to Belichick...

He does he compare to Purdy?

Good point. I'm guessing they will be looking for a new HC as well. Rivera has produced more mediocre teams than Jeff Fisher.

His tempo is really terrible. Everything he does is nonchalant mechanically. He broadcasts every throw he makes by being too cool. I'm done with Fields. He has never shown any sense of urgency. The dude can't even throw a slant without it being slapped in his face. Bagent is simply better. (Already) Faster release, better tempo, stronger decisions, better accuracy, anticipation, blah blah blah. What talent has Fields displayed that is greater than any of the above? The eye test is undefeated...

QB this draft is ridiculous. Add in Nix, Penix and Sanders also...

Lol, Mooney is the last guy I thought would be the tush pusher...??????

It means you are a true Bears fan!...??

He can throw deep. Why do it when you don't need to? Makeshift line and 4th/5th running backs. He played mistake free ball and made plays when he needed to.

True. How's your support for Fields coming along?

It's just you and you alone...

Different head coach, different offensive system and completely different player...

It's not the Bears story to tell. Davis undoubtedly asked for respectful privacy.

It's funny, they are considered mistakes, but the reason for getting them was pure and reasonable. He'll never trust the Steelers organization again and even owes them a little payback. Velus can still be serviceable. My biggest complaint with Poles, on record too, is that he didn't draft a center or guard highly. I didn't feel comfortable with Tevin Jenkins or whatever retread we had at center. Jenkins already missing four games, to start the season, messed up a lot of good intentions we had for a rebuilt line. Whitehair, Patrick and Kramer have all been injured, again, proving the need for youth up front. This mistake set the tone for this season.. But again, he legitimately tried.

Let the debate begin. However unfair, this season is likely to cost Flus, Getsy and Fields their jobs. I hate it, due to being so hopefull, but snake bitten is what it is. Poles should be given the opportunity to finish the rebuild, as I believe he has done the job pretty well to date. I've been reading and watching video on both quarterbacks lately and they both have unique skills sets. Both have cannon arms with quick releases. Williams is better short and Maye is better long. Both QB's are pocket first run later, with Williams being more creative and Maye more explosive. This is the first year, I can remember, where two generational QB's will go 1 and 2. (Please don't let it be a Manning Leaf draft) IMO, we can't go wrong with either. At this point, I'm choosing Maye, due to the offense he plays in. He is required to read the high safety, while the Lincoln Rileys' offense does not require it. This off season may be more crazy than last...

I like all the moves you made.(that's if we don't trade some pieces again) With 103mil in cap space, we have to sign the best edge player we can get. Tee Higgins would also be a good get. Via the draft, gotta go QB, OT, edge, center and WR. If we trade the number two pick and Fields, we should be able easily address that in the first two rounds. BPA for the rest....

This. And it's going to be hard to get rid of him. His ghost will linger in the locker room until Bill Murray gets un-slimed. IE: Bagent ?

My question to all of you is this: is this the most snake bitten season the Bears have ever had? If you think of what we talked about the entire off season, the consensus would say, it's the year off Justin. What we never discussed is the litany of injuries this team has had. Drill that down to the OL and we can say that we've not seen the projected starting five all season. Other than the Charles Martin slaughter of Jim McMahon, I have not seen such carnage on the injury report. Jackson, Brisker, Gordon, Edmonds, Engakque, Johnson, Fields, Jones, Whitehair, Jenkins, Wright, Herbert, St Brown, Claypool, Davis, Feeney, Homer, Smith, Kramer, Lewis and Mooney. Did I miss anyone?

I'm starting to wonder what is wrong with Braxton Jones's neck. Flus said he's not ready to practice yet.

Can you find Fields release time in college? You can get away with higher release times in college, definitely not in the pros.

Nice dig. I love his process.