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I forgot to mention this from a strategic standpoint. We could claim him, pay him the million and trade him in the off season for a pick. And if we are unsuccessful in trade and don't like him, he can be released for zero cap hit.

Let's play devils advocate for a minute, as we've had this argument before regarding T.O. and Brandon Marshall. How could OBJ be different? One thing is, he's still elite. With us having a huge need at WR and being cap tight, we could now get OBJ for 1 mil this year and 13mil the following two. We are getting ready to lose Arob, who can't shake free anyway. OBJ comes out of deep breaks like Tyreek Hill and still has game breaking speed. If he comes in and knows he'll be working with an up and coming Fields, his attitude may become as a mentor. Also, Fields would absolutely have someone he can chuck it to at any time. With Fields deep accuracy and Beckham's ability to high point a ball, this combo could be ridiculous. Let's hear the other side...

Do you think he was praying for a cluster f@&k while he was gone? ?????

Probably Pace standing on his roster, kinda like Daniel Boone or Custer... Gotta save your job somehow, when no-one else will hire your sorry ass...

And fizzle...

He's starting to look more comfortable. I like it.

There's the age old Bears QB argument that can be had about our failed QB's. Bad OL, bad coaching, no weapons, no defense. Some players lose their resolve after time as well. Get banged up, get paid, have kids, fight injuries, get bored, bad work ethic, drugs and alcohol, married and divorced etc. We weighed the talent difference between Mahomes and Trubisky and their skillsets were eerily similar, but Mahomes performance was eminently better. What was it? The only thing we couldn't equate is what was between their ears. It really goes to show how fragile and important the QB position is. It's the one area where I agreed with and applauded Nagy for protecting Fields as long as he could.

It's skewed, but valid. Peters, Dalton, Graham, Trevathon, Hicks, Quinn and Mack are not the players they used to be. Whether it is a step slower or injury prone their impact is diminished.

We are the oldest team in the NFL. Mack, Quinn, Graham, Hicks, Trevathon, Dalton, Ogletree, Edwards and Foles would provide great value by either gaining a draft pick or dumping their contract. On the younger side, Robinson, Montgomery, Cohen and Jackson might get some value for the future. We really need youth and talent at WR, OL, DB and edge.

I just watched the game and OMG timing is everything. There were so many pivotal plays that cost us the game. Cody Whitehair and Sam Mustipher suck. I'm especially disappointed in Whitehair. He can't figure out how to partner with the center or LT. He was a key figure in two big sacks in the second half and won't get charged with either. Fields overall played well, but sailed a couple presses that could have been daggers. He also rifled a ball deep to Mooney that he should have put some air under. We clearly missed Mack and dare I say Eddie Jackson today. Kudos to Fields, Mooney, Borom and Peters on offense. Nothing really stood out on D. Side note: because I hate Pace and Nagy. Offense had its best game. And Jimmy Graham is our most expensive TE and he doesn't even play in 3 TE sets.

I would definitely extend Monty at a team friendly price. RB's are the most disposable position, so you can't pay him big coin. If we happen to lose him in FA, we'll gladly collect a good comp pick. In the meantime, draft another Herbert next year to keep the pipeline full.

He's in his fourth year and all of the sudden underperforming? I'm out...? scape·goat /ˈskāpˌɡōt/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.

Man, you are rowing a sinking ship. Anytime your program is not good and you get to fire someone and keep your job, it's a scapegoat. The players you mentioned are underperforming due to Nagy and his terrible system. They don't have time to get open, due to the routes taking too long or being easy to defend. There is no time to throw the ball because of the OL. They literally had 8 people pass blocking on the second play of the game and two people came in untouched. They should have fired Nagy the day he said it takes five years to master his system. (And as far Goodwin and Byrd are concerned; they aren't starter quality receivers anymore. They may be fast, but it doesn't show in football speed. And they are smallish)

Another nail in the coffin. I was listening to Waddle and Silvey yesterday and they mentioned an important fact. The offense under John Fox during Mitch's rookie year was far more productive than Nagy Fields. Don't give me shit over the sample size, lol...

You know what's crazy, Mustipher is 315 and supposedly gained strength, but I see what you see. The number one rated center coming out weighs 285, is super strong and athletic. I watched film on him and he's a mauler. It's that kid from Iowa. When you draft a kid like that, did you get a Kruetz or Grasu. He's like an OL version of Aaron Donald.

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Combinations and chemistry...

That's a tough one. I like the guards where they are, but they are both better than Mustipher at center. If one moves in, does it make the line better or worse? At this point, I'm staying put with Sam. Then, of course, drafting the best center of the class next year.

Or he's using his future HOF resume to show how terrible the coaching staff is. How can you be a backup and not have any reps???

It's widely known that I want to clean house, sooner than later, so I've come up with my dream team. Ted Phillips - CEO. Phillips had been instrumental in making great financial deals for the team. With the new property and stadium in the future, it is key that he remain in the forefront. With this new role, he'll no longer make football related decisions. Bill Polian - President of football operations. Polian was NFL exec of the year 6 times with three different teams. All three teams were built up from the rubble and appeared multiple Superbowl. (Seven I think) Polian is 78 so he may choose to stay retired. If we could get him for 2 years to establish the front office, a reliable replacement would be easier to groom or find. Ed Dodds - GM. Dodds is the current right hand of Chris Ballard of the Colts. He's widely considered a rising star and had already begun the GM interview process this past off season. Brian Daboll - HC. It's his time, as he has succeeded at several positions. Lately with the Bills, he has shown to be an excellent play caller and player developer. Josh Allen's rise to stardom can be directly attributed to Daboll. I love his experience and hot hand as of late. With Justin Fields being very similar physically to Josh Allen, the fit seems natural. I didn't choose any coordinators, but with the experience of the new brain trust, I feel they would build a great staff.

Lord help us if someone that low level is the scapegoat. At least last year it was Pagano and the year before Hiestand.

You keep bringing up Furrey. He reports to Nagy and will go when he does, so he's kinda moot. This whole train wreck starts with Pace. If Nagy was the key villain, Pace would have dispatched him last year. If not, he's even more incompetent than I thought.

The difference between our team losing players and others teams losing players is coaching and depth. IE: Pace and Nagy. Richard Sherman was literally asked to be a coach yesterday and was successful.

I may have been a little harsh. He was trying to read the defense, but it was overtly methodical and slow. Fields is so casual and smooth, it looks cavalier. I hope and pray that his mental process will someday meet the speed of the NFL. The tools are there.

I don't know what you saw, but Fields couldn't read a comic book today. They are going to get him hurt. Even Romo was begging for Dalton to come in to try to save Fields' confidence. What a shit show. He's not ready. I give Nagy credit for trying to protect him. I'm starting to wonder if the decision to make Fields starter for the season came from above...

Nice guys finish last if they aren't special...