jason

1000% disagree. Absolutely all resources need to be focused on OL. If there isn’t OL worthy of where they pick, then trade back for OL. Period. Full effing stop. The game today was disgraceful. Nearly every drop back the pocket went from capital C to lower case c in a second or less. No Qb consistently succeeds like that, let alone a rookie QB. What’s worse, it potentially ruins a rookie QB and makes him gun-shy. We know this from experience multiple times. All eggs are in the Caleb Williams basket. Supporting him is the first, second, and third priority.

I haven’t watched much this year. But watching just one game should be enough of a reason to fire this dude. 3rd and short, Bears jump offside. OL can’t pick up stunts. OL caving in every play and there are no outlets or quick passes. Horrible replay challenge. Franchise rookie QB doesn’t slide when in danger on the sideline. Catastrophic end of game clock management. That is ALL COACHING. He deserves to be fired tonight.

I don’t know why it’s so difficult to understand. We’ve only been saying this for years. The roll outs and designed runs is what kills me the most. Fields was lightning in a bottle, and they barely ever rolled out. Williams isn’t exactly slow, and yet it’s 99% drop back.

Concur. PFF is trash in OL grades if they think Jones is in the middle of all starters. That’s nonsense. I know what my eyes are telling me.

But this is precisely why I, and those who agreed with me, didn’t want CW drafted at #1. The OL problem would still likely exist, and that proved to be true. And we couldn’t truly tell how high Fields could have ascended with proper protection. Will always be true because he’s not in Chicago. And the huge draft yield from the trade will never be known, but the rumored picks were franchise-changing. It’s really early, and it’s just like we said with Trubisky and Fields, but I hope the Bears protect CW don’t ruin his future.

100%. I don’t understand how they look so bad. Tell the OL to form a wall, stay in their lane, accept incoming stunts, have the TE stay in to create double teams, and use the RB as a “blitz spy” to chip any stragglers who sneak through.

100% Fire the OL Coach. Immediately. His replacement should be a guy with a thick neck, cauliflower ears, anger management issues, and fierce loyalty. Someone who headbutts linemen after pancake blocks, then coaches a series before getting stitched up. And behind closed doors? He not only pays for fines, but pays bonuses to his crew for nastiness.

Please tell me we aren’t back to the days of moving Chris Williams to OG, a natural OG to Center, and a Center to OT.

Bingo. But, yeah, let’s keep drafting and signing WRs to run around while the QB is scrambling. We will never know what could have been with Trubisky and Fields, and Cutler for that matter, since they had shell shock and PTSD from constantly trying to look downfield while running for their lives. Same will be true of Williams unless the OL protects him.

Reminded me of the Cardinals game and Denny Green. All D/ST, with virtually no O.

I thought that was my lane. I’ve only been complaining about it for 20+ years. But for some reason, and multiple 1st round QBs, the Bears never make OL a priority.

If he doesn’t hit 250 a game, it’s a huge problem.

Probably doesn’t need to. He may beat out Braxton Jones.

Please Van Pran.

We are talking different things. How throwing MOTION is great. Very compact. His issue is that he holds the ball when he doesn’t have to. Just like Fields. Now, it can be argued that the reason they hold the ball is different, but it’s the same result unless the OL provides extended protection.

100% agree. Fields had bipolar coaching, consistent change, horrible game planning, a single NFL-worthy WR, and a bad pass-pro OL. The Bears failed Fields, and we will never know what he could have been.

If That’s true, then why does everyone, literally every analyst, say he holds the ball too long? Sounds similar to me.

1000%. Besides, I'd rather do ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to make Caleb Williams happy and comfortable. I think he'd much rather see OL at #9, and his security blanket Brenden Rice in the 3rd.

Perhaps, but if we all expected Fields to take another step and lead the team to ~10 wins, then replacing him means we should expect more. Otherwise, replacing him doesn't make sense. The word generational is thrown around a lot, and the rookie expectation is now incredibly high because of Stroud. As a result, Williams needs to be an improvement.

We disagree. Great WRs don't always allow a QB to release quicker. Where are you getting this? By nearly all accounts, the problem with Williams is the same as Fields: he holds the ball too long. His release is quick, but his decisions are not.

For being so hyped and “generational,” for throwing away Fields, there js zero doubt that Williams better produce immediately. And ten wins is a must. Without each, it’s a disappointment. Williams doesn’t have to go for 4K and 30TDs, but for the drastic turn this franchise is about to take, there is VERY little room for excuses.

The bolded is where I take issue. I’m 100% convinced that a WR does not have as big an impact when the OGs suck, but an OG can still have great impact when the WRs are dropping the ball. It’s chicken and egg stuff. Similarly, a great OL gives the QB time to throw, and even average WRS get open in the NFL if given enough time. DE? Sure, maybe, but I don’t want defense. I want the Bears to transition into an offensive franchise…which is also what I said, and didn’t happen, with Trubisky or Fields.

LOL. Freudian slip. Probably because they never did for Fields what they should do for Williams.

No. The Bears can go without a 1st round WR with other holes to fill and a draft deep in WRs.

I’m 100% fine with drafting what you believe to be an all pro OG in the first round. I pay car, property, and life insurance. Same concept. You get insurance for the things that are most important. And if the insurance costs more than you’d like, you accept that since it protects the thing that’s actually important, and worth FAR more than what you’re paying on insurance. If Fuaga comes into camp with cauliflower ears, a neck as thick as his head, and a willingness to bite off an opponent’s testicles to save Williams, then IDGAF that an OG is drafted in the first. The message should be universal: PROTECT WILLIAMS (not Fields) AT ALL COSTS