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Damn good route by Forte. If Cutler hits him Forte might still be running.

Cutler has to run out of the pocket on every other play. If his initial three-step drop isn't there, he's in trouble. And then a drop by Wilson. And then another play where Cutler has to run.

I just watched the INT 10 times in row, and I'm behind the action, but that's an atrocious play by Alshon. He had a slow get off, poor juke off the line, didn't get the edge for the outside fade, and made zero effort after the DB contacted him. Not a great throw by Cutler - it should have been further into the corner - but it would be nice if Alshon looked remotely good on that play. Having said all that, I hate the Bears' play-calling in the red zone this year.

Cue Alaska...

Absolutely nobody understands what constitutes a catch in the NFL anymore. The announcers, the rules interpreters, the former players, the current players. That's pretty crazy. I don't know what the replay guy up in the booth is doing, but I thought for sure the Bears would get the benefit of that.

On Monday the coaching staff should do nothing but work on basic tackling techniques. I'm talking about breakdowns, driving the legs, wrapping up. Peewee stuff. So many bad angles and missed tackles.

I'd say the success percentage on passes to Mariani when it's a big play are very, very slim. It's not like he has the speed to get away from the average defender. And it's not like he's hyper-athletic compared to DBs.

Rice is unequivocally the best WR of all time, and it's not even remotely close. His abilities, stats, longevity, hands, everything. He's untouchable. But Montana only had him as a security blanket the first six years of Rice's historic career. Taylor was really good, 2 time probowler, but was a complimentary guy overall. He did have Roger Craig pretty much his entire career, however. Brady, however, had Troy Brown, Deion Branch, David Givens, Reche Caldwell for the first couple years. After that, however, he had Welker & Moss for a few years combined, and Moss left just when Gronkowski was coming in. So, although he had a few years to start this career where he had scrubs for the most part, he's had the majority of his career with maybe the 2nd best WR of all time, or one of the best possession WRs of all time, or maybe the best pass catching TE of all time. And if Moss, Welker, or Gronk don't fit into those #1 slots on someone's board, they're certainly in the discussion. It's close between those two for #1.

The only one on that list that I think is close is Montana. I could see that argument. Unitas? Dude is overrated. Great for his generation, but look at the stats. He was the 50s-60s version of Cutler. Tons of INTs. Van Brocklin? Seriously? 11 year career, more INTs than TDs career, 6 years he had more INTs than TDs. Young? He had a good 6-7 year stretch, but he doesn't compare overall to what Brady has done. Lane? He threw 47 more INTs than TDs. 47!! Other than Montana, the only one that's comparable is Young. And he hasn't done what Brady has done.

This is a fun read today given the respective successes of the teams.

I certainly didn't say they were the worst, but I REALLY thought there would be a sharper learning curve. I'm amazed at what the coaching staff is doing.

Unfortunately, I think success will hurt the Bears in this regard. I think if Forte leads the league in rushing, he will naturally expect the bigger contract for more years. And why not? He led the league in rushing! Assuming that happens. And if it does, hometown discounts aren't going to happen. This isn't like other situations where other teams didn't pick Bears' aging vets. This is not Urlacher or Briggs. Make no mistake, some other team will offer Forte a big contract.

Agreed. Said the same thing as you. He could be throwing a nerf ball. It just doesn't matter what kind of ball it is, what PSI it is, what weather it is. Doesn't matter. He's probably the best QB of all time.

As the President of his fan club, I approve of this thread. In terms of overall play, he probably had a B/B+ game. For a rookie at Center in his very first game, and at Arrowhead? A+!!

It's not sensitivity. It's objectivity. Nobody has said Cutler is faultless; that's just how you read everything. All we want is for Cutler haters like you to accept the fact that he has had a TON of shit to overcome as a QB in Chicago. Historically bad OLs at times, historically bad defenses at others, brand new offensive scheme nearly every year, inept coaches sprinkled in there for good measure. It's pretty hard to succeed with those hindrances.

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!! :notworthy :notworthy

This guy knows how to coach defense like we haven't seen in some time. He is getting a solid product on the field week after week, with improvements and adjustments. He's putting in new pieces, misfitting pieces, and still getting solid results. For the most part, the defense has been respectable, and I'm really impressed. At this point, with the way the season is going, I'm thinking the Bears need to trust him, give him the toys he wants in the offseason, and let the offense rely on White's return/Jeffery's health. I don't really want defense in round one early, but I'm slowly turning my opinion. I wouldn't be upset if they just said, "Screw it. Let's load up on defense and let Fangio's brilliance carry us." 1. Robert Nkemdiche, DE/DT, Ole Miss 2. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama 3. Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State

The Bears shouldn't even rush this kick. They should simply step forward and jump. They don't want to create any possible scenarios where a foul could be called for anything.

WHAT HAS HE DONE!? WHAT HAS HE DONE!? WHAT HAS HE DONE!? WHAT HAS HE DONE!?

Your pathetic Cutler hate is worse than any excuse anyone has ever made for Cutler on this board. Obviously my comment was in jest. It was making fun of the bad throws by also noting how horrible Mariani is, it's just that you can't see it because Cutler apparently stole your girlfriend, kicked your dog, stole your identity online, and didn't support Lovie Smith hard enough.

Damn fine question, sir.

That's the second time Cutler has made a horrible overthrow to Marc Mariani. I'm just wondering if Cutler is trying to anticipate the speed of an actual NFL-worthy receiver.

Nice to meet you Shae. I'm Marc Mariani and I could learn a lot more from you than you could from me.

Mariani makes no moves, dives forward, gets nine yards, and he normally sucks so bad that the announcer says it's a nice return. That's hilarious.