jason

So you'd trade the backbone of the offense, a good character guy, a pro-bowler, a potential HOFer who produced just last year, and every year in every offense he has seen with the Bears, for a guy who couldn't crack the starting lineup?! Unkess it is all about money, that makes almost no sense at all to me. The Bears have LBs on the squad who have proven more on the field than that guy.

What if the coaches said, as others here have, that there is a decent amount of young talent on the team? That they just need good coaching? Suppose they think Paea will be stout enough for the NT spot, and the combo of Young, Sutton, Ferguson, Allen, etc. is enough for the DL? Suppose they think SMC is great at his natural position, and Bostic/Greene are perfect for the other two holes in the 3-4, with Briggs filling the last spot? They realize the need at FS, but like the scondary otherwise...and dislike small school safeties. I present you with the anti-Lovie draft, where they eschew the weakness and supplement the strength. 1. Trade back and get Landon Collins, FS, Alabama 2. Dorial Beckham-Green, WR, OK 2. Hroniss Grassu, OC, Oregon 3. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (yeah, I did it) 4-7: BPA Would you be happy/pissed?

Absolutely do not want Shelton. He couldn't even strip the ball from the ball boy.

The Bears trade Cutler, Forte, and Marshall for a 1, 2, and 3. They trade back for a 1 and 2. 1st-mid round and late round 2nd-Bears original, mid round, late round 3rd-Bears original, early round What's your mock? 1. Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson -Kill the QB 1. Hau'oli Kakaha, OLB, Washington -Kill the QB 2. Dorial Beckham-Green, WR, OKlahoma - Marshall replacement 2. TJ Yeldon, RB, Alabama - Challenges for the starting role, insurance, could explode as a rookie 2. Jordan Phillips, NT, Oklahoma - Monster in the middle 3. Hronis Grassu, C, Oregon - Bam! Starts by the end of the year. 3. Derron Smith, FS, Fresno St - I would be shocked if he didn't start immediately 4. Jake Ryan, ILB, Michigan - Feels like too many LBs, but who on the roster is worth a damn? Dude is a gamer. 5. Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor - I know. I know. Rolling the dice. 6. Trenton Brown, ROT, Florida - Huge dude. Challenges Mills at the least. 7. Deshazor Everett, CB, TX A&M - I like him, makes big plays. Got my approximate positioning from drafttek. Go for it!

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Let's say we get a 1st for Cutler, a 2nd for Marshall, and a3rd for Forte. I don't know if that is realistic, but it seems about right to get that for that geoup of guys. Then a trade back for a 1 & 2. Yikes. Tons of potential.

That is ridiculous. PFF stats, like lots of stats, don't prove a thing. And PFF stats have certainly looked stupid numerous times before. Iffy OL + QB issues + offensive scheme issues = offensive implosion And that is passing OR rushing. Having said that, I agree about the notionof this team's rebuilding status, and that Forte would be worth a decent amount in trade right now. It would hurt to see him go, but you have to dive in if you are going to rebuild.

I have been thinking Bout the future without those two. What could the Bears realistically get in trade for them? A second and third? Better? What if they were traded and the Bears turned this into the Emmitt Smith trade? Absolutely load up, use this as the springboard for future success? Trade back from 7, pick up a late first and a second? That would be 4 picks in the first two round, and 6 in three rounds. If The new management wanted to put their stamp on things, that would do it.

I think I saw/read/heard somewhere that Harvey Unga was going to something like this. And I seem to recall that he was one of the key names attending since he had been on roster(s?) before. If Harvey Unga is the prime rib, the rest are probably tainted.

Abso-freaking-lutely.

I would have to squeegee my computer screen if the Bears got that draft. That would be incredible. Of course, I would prefer an OL pick in the 3rd instead of McCarthy, but itis not a horrible pick.

I like the start, but don't like the third rounder. Rather see the OL there or a FS.

Shit...counting all on the board, I KNOW 150% we would have done better.

One...and I can guarantee that scout had more hits than the Bears did the last ten years. So that would have been a lot of money saved for the franchise as well.

Keep in mind the Bears have been one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL the past ten years or so. We have all seen the stats and links showing how many players on the team were originally drafted and how many weren't. As always, the point is, maybe the posters on this board wouldn't have done great, but it would have been pretty damn hard to have done worse.

Very difficult process to work through. They shouldn't make that process where you offer and then there is an accept/decline. They should make it to where it has a range that the player might accept. BTW - I also dislike any sort of high priced RB pickup. Murray? Hell no. Not while we have Forte. And we still don't know if Carey is good or not, but he showed glimpses. The Bears need to put about 0% into looking at RBs unless a highly rated guy plummets. For instance, I did a mock where TJ Yeldon fell to the 6th - ridiculous - and had to take him as value.

Agreed, but you also have to factor in team need in order to be good. I don't hate the Fuller pick, but the HHCD pick would have been better for us. I'm not sure he gave up a TD this year, and he was solid in run support all year. He was near the top of their team in tackles. By comparison, Fuller exploded on the scene, then relatively disappeared for the majority of the season.

He started ONLY because of injury. That means he wasn't the starter (i.e. nickel). I still do not think he is better than Jennings (didn't he go to a PB?). If Nut comes back, he starts as well. And IDK which cheeseheads you talk to, but my friends who live there, as well as a few others, thought he was great as a rookie for them.

I'm sorry...I just don't want to hire a guy named Jim Bob Cooter. Pretty much for the reasons in this parody pic.

I'd actually like that. I think that LB group would do well, and their athleticism would help overcome learning hurdles along the way. Agreed with this as well. I think Bostic and Jones would be incredible in a 3-4 beside one another. And I think Young would prosper with a little head start. Finally, what the hell else can we do with SMC? He is either going to succeed as a 3-4 OLB, or fail.

Only name out of all of them that I'd like is Mike Iupati. And I don't care what order they are put in, but a line that includes Mike Iupati and Kyle Long is already pretty good. OT: Long/Bushrod OG: Slausson/Iupati C: DLP or Garza (draft Hroniss)

Hopefully the police gave Tucker a ticket on his way out of the parking lot.

Easy answer for me: yes. The Bears didn't need a nickel back. They needed a FS. A year later and they still need one. And I suspect nothing will change after next year because the FS class is weak.

You gotta be kidding. I hate the packers with a passion, but HHCD was a stud for them as a rookie. And the Bears STILL have a glaring hole at FS.

Good catch. That 2009 season makes the data I put there completely wrong. IDK how in the hell I got what I did. I must have had too many windows open, or got one game log breakdown confused for another. 0-7 without Urlacher in 2004. 7-8 without Urlacher in 2009. 7-15 total, 46.6%.

Even better...11-5. Granted it was 10-5 without Brady, but I'd say that's pretty good with Matt Cassell. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2008.htm