jason

Again...eat shit. I have been right FAR more times than I've been wrong in regards to the Bears' picks and FA moves, and there is little chance I would have put a worse product on the field than the Bears have over the last decade. I've said before that I don't keep up with the salary cap, but I definitely would have made better moves and draft picks. This is a bad move for the Bears. Hester is still one of the most elite return guys in the NFL, and he's exactly the burner the Bears need at the 4th WR position. He won't get many catches, or many passes for that matter, but he stretches the field for Marshall and Jeffery. This is especially bad for the Bears if when the contract details come out we find he was had for 1-2 million. The Bears will be worse on ST next year without him. I called the D being significantly worse last year without Urlacher (injuries weren't predicted), and I'm calling this one. Bad move.

These are only proposals. That doesn't mean they'll come true. If they do come true, then Hester's value is lessened. If they don't, he still has more value than vet minimum.

Horrible idea. And it won't change the impact or collisions. Now teams will pooch more often. Besides, even if you kick deep, there is still a massive collision with the guys running full speed for 10-15 yards into that first wave of blockers. Just a horrible idea.

I think Matthews would make this offense unstoppable, but it would hurt the defense. Overall, I don't like this draft, but I think this would be Forte's reaction.

Holy hell. What a start! Unfortunately, as soon as I saw this I thought, "That's impossible." So it kind of makes the rest of the draft moot. Although, I am salivating at the thought of those two guys wearing Bears' jerseys. I'd have to think that would guarantee a serious upgrade in the defense.

I just don't like drafting a RB when there are so many other positions of need. If the Bears trade down and accumulate picks, then I think RB isn't as bad of a choice.

I think you're on track with the thought process (i.e. performance escalators), but your requirements are far too high. You realize nobody in the last 10 years of the NFL has been able to average 16 yards a punt and 30 yards a kickoff, and in most years, 30 on a kickoff makes you the league leader? You also realize that last year, Devin Hester was the only guy to average over 27 on kickoffs and over 14 on punts? The ONLY guy. Period.

Standard. Easier to follow.

I'm torn. The trades are horrible value, and I hate some of the picks, but some are really good. First of all, the Bears lose on all three trades on the draft value chart. The Bears and Chiefs trade ends up being 1100 for 1000. The Bears and Niners trade ends up being 760 for 671.2. The Bears and Titans trade ends up being 54 for 45.9. That's a net loss of 196.9. Horrible. As far as the draft goes... 1. Mosley - ILB - Alabama - I get BPA, but drafting a first round LB - arguably the Bears strongest position in terms of talent and depth - is not how this draft should start. 2. Jernigan - DT - Fl. St. - He would be a steal, for sure, so that's at least a bright spot. 3. Brooks - S - Fl. St. - For all the picks he acquired, the best he could do to fix the Bears' current #1 issue (i.e. FS) was to get a guy from Florida State (Brooks) who is slow, undersized, has horrible hands, and is a weak hitter? 3. McGill - CB - Utah - Tall DB who could sit/learn for a year or two. But not that great right now. 4. Sankey - RB - Washington - I'm typically against a RB in this draft...but this guy collected so many picks that this isn't horrible. And to get the potential #1 RB in the 4th is a solid value. 4. Martin C - USC - Same as the Sankey pick in terms of value. Many have Martin as the #1 Center. 5. Reid - DT - Princeton - Hate this pick. Dude's gonna be a bust. 3.5 sacks in the Ivy League? Seriously? 5. Martin - DE - UNC - Hate this pick. Just about everyone says this guy is very unrefined, lacks burst and skill, and isn't very strong. 5. Murray - QB - UGA - I like this pick. He has skill and if he recovers from injury he'll prove people wrong. 6. Jones - WR - ND - Hate this pick. He's the exact WR the Bears don't need. Not a burner, and not very big. 6. Colvin - CB - OK - Hate this pick. Undisciplined and slow. 7. Linder - G - Miami - I guess this one isn't horrible, especially for the 7th. But he definitely is not someone the Bears want on the field. 7. Connor - QB - S.Car. - Hate this pick. Why get a second rookie QB, especially one with such limited upside? Out of all that, Mosley is probably the only guy that sees the field as a full time player. And it's at a position of abundance. Jernigan definitely makes the rotation. Sankey, Martin, and Murray are good picks for the Bears future. Overall this draft plan would not make me happy at all. And Conte would STILL be starting.

I've probably supported Devin as a Bear more than any. But even I think 4M is stupid. I'm guessing Devin and his agent are setting the bar high so the negotiation process ends around 2M.

The bolded is an interesting thought. It's nearly impossible to quantify. Where I think that concept is flawed, however, is in the long-term, franchise building guys. Those guys don't leave teams very often. They get resigned over and over until retirement. If you don't get that guy (i.e. Bears and QBs), it's very difficult to overcome. You end up trying to fill the hole over and over again, hamstringing your team for years and years.

I'd actually like to see Kuhn in Chicago as well. I've long been an advocate of the hard-nosed, true FB. Someone who makes LBs wince before impact. He'd fit right behind the OL and Forte would have an absolutely monster year.

I'd take HHCD over Pryor or Bucannon because what the Bears need is not a thumper. The Bears need a true FS who can play centerfield, taking the correct angles, and breaking up passes. That's what HHCD excels in. The Bears don't need two SS's, where one of them just gets put into the FS role.

I despise the Carlos Hyde pick, but I have to admit that would be a very good draft.

I'm not a big fan. Sure, he's fast, but I think he ends up as a Devin Hester type of player, where there is no specific home or position. If the Bears want a field-stretcher, I'd rather see a guy who excelled at being a wide receiver who also happens to be lightning fast.

I'm sad to see Earl go. I always thought he was underused. He has great hands, runs great routes, and is actually a very good compliment to the Marshall/Jeffery combo.

Good. Weems was a bad pickup, for too much money, and was never going to be a WR. He was a special teams guy 99.9% of the time, and even then it's not like he was better than, or remotely close to as good as Hester...who just got cut.

This pretty much validates my belief that we could have done a better job drafting during JA's tenure than he did. All of us don't have a handle on the finances - although some are very good at it, and I'd trust LT2's numbers over anyone's - the simply matter of fact is, the Bears have been one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL over the last ten years.

This definitely should have gone elsewhere, because this is guaranteed to start problems if you guys feel anywhere near passionate about this. Suffice to say, I am 100% firm in my belief - which is supported by science and medicine - that she's and idiot and it's bad for her, Jay, the kid, and those around them. Herd immunity is real. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity Admins...move this when applicable.

Yeah, she's hot, but she's an idiot. http://www.salon.com/2014/03/17/mtv_star_k...dium=socialflow This is probably not the right forum (?) but it's something that potentially affects Cutler vis a vis his emotional well-being after his child is not protected from potentially lethal diseases. Even more surprising considering Jay's diabetes.

That would be an outstanding draft. I'm not a fan of Breeland, but overall that fills holes and positions the Bears for the future.

They should do it. Weems sucks ass at pretty much everything, and apparently Bennett is persona non grata in Chicago. May as well shift that money elsewhere.

Hold up. You have that stance on Izzy, an inarguable average, albeit reliable, player for 9 years with the Bears, but you were basically leading the charge on this board for the ouster of Urlacher and Hester, saying they were worth no more than vet minimum (or thereabouts)?

I don't know what you base that on. Hester's stats as a WR are easily better.

Agree with the rest of the post, but this is incorrect. Hester is unquestionably a better returner, and based on previous production probably a better receiver as well. Hester leads Hixon in virtually everything.