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Call it hate it not, but Cutler has under thrown several passes so far. I have counted three. And I could swear I saw someone open on that last bad throw to Marshall.

I thought I saw someone open but I couldn't be sure. But when the throw is into double coverage I would figure someone is open.

Philly offense is perfect against an undisciplined defense.

SMC bites too far inside, AGAIN.

And if I recall the convo, I still say five scrubs with good continuity means a beat up QB. There has been some continuity in previous seasons and the still sucked. That's talent level, period. You need a balance of both, but if you have to choose one, you choose talent and ability over continuity every day. Give me a probowl OL with zero continuity and they will quickly outperform a poor OL with lots of continuity. If that were Webb and some other scrub on the right side instead of Long and Mills, the continuity wouldn't matter much. Luckily, this year the Bears have both talent AND continuity.

I want better than 56% regular season and 50% post season success.

Yep! One good year, one bad year, repeat. Too many holes in his Tampa 2. Too passive. No clue on offense. No clue on drafting. No clue on FA. Horrendous in game coaching decisions. Laughable replay challenges. Retarded loyalty to bad assistant coaches. Zero fire. I'm with you; I'd love to see Lovie in Detroit. You can go ahead and book Cutler for 300+ and 2-3 TDs, with receivers open all over the place in the zone.

I would absolutely hate a TE in the first. Same goes for a speed guy. TE is not a need. Neither is WR. Besides, a speed guy can be had in the mid/late rounds. This team needs defensive help at all three levels. And if the FA period doesn't go as we'd like, it may need even more help.

Excellent link! Thanks! Very informative.

Yes. I watched tons of games for the same reasons you did. And I agree with the thought that comparison is near impossible. Abstract is right. Picasso-level abstract. I agree the system had a lot to do with Montana's checkdowns, and it wasn't necessarily Joe Montana making the decision on his own. However, it goes straight into the point many have made about Cutler buying fully into a system instead of locking in on Marshall. It's what many believe - me included - he has yet to fully do, and it's precisely why McCown did well. It's not like McCown did that well at any other time in his career. He bought in, and the system fits him well. Yeah, that's a misunderstanding. My point about defense was a direct reply to Cracker's insistence that the INT difference between Montana and Cutler was somehow tied to defense. Normally I'd agree that there is some merit to this line of reasoning, like you've pointed out, but the simple fact is, Cutler threw plenty of picks the last three years and the Bears had pretty damn good defenses then.

I criticized the comparison, which you made. The comparison is just foolhardy. See Alaska's point and try not being combative for once. Once again...it's not literally about the FB. Did you (can you) read: not that it was specifically a FB. ? Talk abut arguing with people based on things they never said. Try reading some more and actually understanding the point being made before unleashing the caps lock mentality, and button.

Thanks for putting in the effort I didn't feel like putting in. Agree wholeheartedly with the post.

Agreed. Denard > Hageman > Humpty Dumpty

There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension. There's something wrong with your comparison comprehension. I don't care what stats you throw out, when you start to compare Cutler to Montana it's just a really bad comparison. And keep in mind I've been the President of the "Fix the OL Club," and a firm member of the "Cutler is our QB Club" before this year. The "he only threw .5 more picks" stuff is nonsense because it discounts thousands of other factors that make the discussion and comparison ridiculous. Ask literally anyone about that comparison and it's laughable. Jay hasn't been horrible, but he's been nowhere near Montana, regardless of how a single statistic gets misconstrued. The point to the second part is that Cutler only spread it around when he had to because nobody was good. He was forced to work with what he had. And most people who paid attention didn't blame him because the receivers and OL sucked. But not now. He's got weapons and an OL. It's like not having your favorite food and basically eating whatever is in the fridge. But when he got his favorite food (i.e. Marshall), that's about all he saw. The point to the fullback, which I'm not surprised you missed, is that Montana used all his weapons, not that it was specifically a FB.

Joe Montana and Jay Cutler? That's about as far away in terms of QB type as you can get. Ignoring the obvious physical differences... With Chicago Jay Cutler has an INT% of 3.6%. Career 3.4%. With SanFran Joe Montana had an INT% of 2.7%. Career 2.6%. That means Jay throws 1 INT more per 100 passes. I know some would say, "That doesn't seem like a lot." Figure about 33 passes a game to make math easy. That's one extra pick thrown every 3 games. Or put another way, Joe Montana might get through the stretch of three games without a pick (based on percentages). Cutler will not. And if Cutler's lucky enough to get through those three games? Oh, holy shit, a horrible game is on the horizon. And those stats don't even get into field location of interceptions, something I'm sure would make Cutler's INTs look worse. And BTW, Montana's TD% is roughly 0.5% better, which means he probably throws an extra TD in there during that three game stretch. And if not, it was guaranteed in the fourth game. And BTW part 2, I don't have comprehensive stats on this, but Joe Montana was FAMOUS for being a person who ran the offense efficiently, checking down to Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, and Dwight Clark even when he had Jerry Rice. Montana's big stretch with Rice is 87-89, and at no time did Rice's receptions go above 25%. In fact, two of those years Craig had more receptions than Rice. And Rathman had 73 receptions the other year. A FULLBACK. Cutler? Not so much. In his first three years with the Bears he spread it around. The most receptions was still under 20%. But as soon as he got his buddy Marshall, that figure jumps to a staggering 41%! The point to all this is that Cutler doesn't appear to be the type of guy willing to spread the ball around when he has an elite player at WR. Which is what makes so many frustrated about him, particularly when Jeffery and Bennett are putting in such good years. And BTW part 3, it's not like Jay has had to deal with horrible defenses this whole time. This year? Yeah, sure. The three previous years? Not even close.

Agreed. Same way I felt about Urlacher.

I wasn't specifically defending the original post, obviously, but you said, "Anyone who thinks there's a QB out there who makes no mistakes is a fool and knows literally nothing about this game. The measure of a great player is how they respond. Today Jay showed us all what that means. I hope it continues into the playoffs." To me that appeared to be a defense of Cutler directed towards those who have challenged him. As for the "so what," I stand by my comments. Cutler takes far more chances than McCown, it's what has frustrated many Bears fans, and he apparently hates checking down to the smarter, safer throw that keeps the offense clicking. He'd rather gun it into Marshall. I hope he also obliterates the opponents and leads the Bears to the Super Bowl, because I believe he has that kind of physical talent. But as a Bears' fan, it's difficult not to be pessimistic.

That's not the case. I think the Cutler detractors are saying he takes too many chances that lead to mistakes. That is irrefutable. Do other QBs take chances? Certainly. Do other QBs make mistakes? Sure. But Cutler does it pretty frequently, and the problems appear to be correctable. He just needs to trust the offense and find the open receiver instead of hammering it into Marshall.

Exactly. #1 need this offseason is FS.

Ditto. And it gives Bush yet another reason to think he doesn't suck. That was just like last week: nobody touched him.

The crazy thing is, it was STILL a pass into double coverage. It's as if Cutler has thrown into double coverage every pass. I don't know it means, but the simple fact is, receivers were open when McCown was running the offense.

On the last play, Cutler almost seemed upset to check down. He waited and waited when the obvious pass was staring him in the face.

Because, like most fans, you look through rose-colored glasses, and the Bears are an udisciplined team lately.

I love the score, but the problem with Cutler is very clear: he loves Marshall far too much. He'd rather force it into double or tight coverage with Marshall than check down to someone else. Which is especially frustrating when Alshon has been on a tear and he's currently being guarded by a guy who is a few inches away from legally being a midget.

Prophetic, considering today's game.