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I'm not even sure he deserves over 20M. He's a very good possession receiver on a team with minimal receiver talent, and an easily rattled QB who zeroes in on his #1 receiver before even saying the word hike. His volume and production - third most targets in the NFL - is by default more than anything else.

Well, the Winston idea is dead. I want Tyrod Taylor. He's athletic, fairly accurate, and safe with the ball. It would be in the Bears' best interest in my opinion.

If another team is crazy enough to offer two first round picks for ARob, the Bears should start recording the conversation immediately, ask the other team to repeat, then throw in someone random as a tip, say thank you as quickly as possible, hang up the phone, file the appropriate paperwork with the NFL, and then change their phone number immediately thereafter.

I already know this will take heat, but please allow me to present my cases. CASE 1: Shoot the Moon (Big Upside / Big Downside) There is an available, young, FA QB who has thrown for nearly 4,000 yards and 24TDs per season. The problem is, he's thrown 17 INTs per season. Yes, it's Jameis Winston. I think his price tag is diminished, and he has massive upside. If Nagy is the alleged QB whisperer he claims to be, this should be an easy sell. Additionally, it's clear he handcuffed Trubisky to the point of paranoia, where simple out passes were thrown so far in advance of the receiver that the INT was impossible but the reception was difficult. Trubisky threw roughly 10 INTs a season even with this restriction, and we all know it should have been higher. (I wish there were a stat for dropped INTs, because Trubisky would lead it every year. One wonders if he just throws a ball that is difficult to catch for some reason?) Anyway, why not take the chance? Even if the INTs stay consistent, at least there will also be TDs along with it. Better than a consistently neutered offense that leads the universe in three-and-outs. CASE 2: Play it Safe (Medium Upside / Minimal Downside) Look at all available QBs and pick the journeyman who has enough experience and reps to show his skillset, and has been relatively careful with the ball. There just happens to be a guy available who has been incredibly safe with the ball, and has a serious propensity to run when faced with a dangerous decision. He'd be perfect for all of Nagy's stupid RPO stuff. His name is Tyrod Taylor, and he's perfect for the cautious approach. In three years as a starter, he threw a TOTAL of 16 INTs. I'll say that again, 16 INTs in three years. Otherwise he sat behind Flacco for a few years, sat behind a first-round rookie in Baker Mayfield, then sat behind Philip Rivers, then sat behind another first-round rookie in Herbert. I'm actually surprised he isn't getting more love.

LOL. Can't make this shit up. Watch him come back and dominate for another team, likely within the division.

LOL. I was thinking if he was a friend, he’d steer Wilson away from Chicago. I mean, I love the team, and the city, but he is likely set up for failure if he joins the Bears.

Massie...Well...Bye

And that price tag would be colossally stupid. Football is more of a team sport than any other sport. Harmony and skill and nearly all levels is required. it would be better to trade for picks to increase the odds of picking studs, than to put everything on the shoulders of a QB with huge promise being protected by scrubs. Funny, I think we have seen how that concept plays out fairly recently.

Bingo.

I thought I saw somewhere that he'd be willing to come to Chicago as well. Personally, I'd hate it for two reasons: 1. It would likely cost a 1st round pick. At least. 2. He's just mobile enough, and throws well enough on the run, that he'd potentially make Pace/Nagy look good.

That's what we all see, but for some reason the Bears' ownership/management doesn't. It's baffling. Then again, that's the type of thing we've seen for 20+ years in various forms and fashions, and it's why the organization has not been a consistent winner.

1. The Bears should never trade up for a 1st rd QB again. The lesson should have been learned. 2. Mac Jones makes up for arm strength precisely with anticipation and touch. I'm not saying he's Montana or Manning, but it's the same concept. 3. The McCaskeys don't care about winning. They care about $$$.

Agree. Also, since Darnold is more of a pocket passer and less mobile, maybe it would provide an incentive to the Bears' front office to focus on OL. If they were to go with Mariota or Minshew, there is zero doubt Nagy's dumb ass would be installing the mid-90s Nebraska option because he is so much smarter than everyone else.

What am I missing here? 6 years as a defensive quality control coach with the Bears from 2013 to 2018, and then two years as the safeties coach from 2019-2020. How in the world does that translate into DC? Is this a loyalty promotion from a notoriously cheap franchise known for poor coaching decisions? His "record" while with the Bears is 55-73 The defensive points against have been 30,31,20,24,9,1,4,14 from 2013-2020 The defensive yards against have been 30,30,14,15,10,3,8,11 in the same time frame More specifically, the passing ranks in terms of passing yards, passing TDs, INTs: 2013 - 15, 14, 8 2014 - 30, 31, 14 2015 - 4, 25, 30 2016 - 7, 11, 29 2017 - 7, 5, 29 2018 - 7, 8 ,1 2019 - 9, 4, 25 2020 - 12, 16, 23 So the guy puts in work as defensive QC coach for six years, pays his dues, and becomes the safeties coach. Subsequently, Eddie Jackson, the all world, ball-hawking safety turns into an average Joe safety, and the passing defense regresses for two straight years. I know the players are coming out singing his praises, but that doesn't look like a guy I'd hire as a DC, regardless of how long he's been around or if he has a PhD.

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This fits perfectly into my "go hard on defense to save their jobs"-approach that Pace and Nagy would be smart to take. ----------Watt Goldman Hicks---------- --Mack-----Smith-----Trevathan-----Quinn-- That would be a front seven that transforms the team's chances at victory. That would be a front seven that should dominate, time of possession, provide interception opportunities for the secondary, terrorize quarterbacks, and minimize the pressure on the offense. With that front seven, the Bears wouldn't need more than 20 or so points a game to win, and potentially be Super Bowl contenders.

Not only do I watch a ton of college football, but I live in Alabama. I may be biased. I love Mac Jones. I think he'll potentially be the best QB of the entire draft. He is not flashy, but he's very accurate, very composed, big game player, great leader, innate pocket presence, and makes great decisions. In my opinion he's being overlooked in favor of some of the others. If the Bears were to go the QB route, I would hope that Mac Jones falls to the Bears at their current position. Unfortunately, he's not flashy, so he's probably not even on the Nagy/Pace radar.

I agree about OL helping, but I don’t see it turning around the offense enough to make the team very good in ONE year. This is a “save your job” move for Pace and Nagy. As for DL being a strength, we just disagree. Compared to the other positions, that’s where the most help is needed. Maybe 1 OLB, maybe 1 ILB, maybe a FS. Goldman? I agree, if he stays on the field. If not, next man up, and Nichols is not the man.

Picking another QB in the draft this year after the promise Hurts showed this year? That would be moronic. Are they getting advice from the Bears' front office?

I'm not saying it's my preference, but if I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking about a quick turnaround for job security. This team is not going to be very good on offense next year, regardless of the moves they make. But the pieces on defense are a lot better and can carry the team if the right moves are made. Hicks - Goldman - Barrimore: Could be an elite front three that leads to huge success in the 2nd/3rd level.

Let's say Pace and Nagy think their best chance to remain employed is to improve defense. The weaknesses are Nichols, Urban, and Quinn, IMHO. Would something like this draft turn the tide? Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 20: Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama (A) - Urban on the bench Round 2 Pick 20: Dylan Moses, ILB/OLB, Alabama (A) - Utility knife on D Round 3 Pick 19: Tommy Togiai, DT, Ohio State (A) - Pressures Nichols to start Round 5 Pick 20: Joshua Kaindoh, DE/OLB, Florida State (A+) - Super long, pressures Quinn to start Round 6 Pick 20: Jake Curhan, OT, California (A+) - I had to do it Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State (A+) - Huge upside, underrated Round 6 Pick 39 (COMP): Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State (A+) - Could fit nicely at nickle Round 7 Pick 4: Zach Smith, QB, Tulsa (B+) - I actually think this dude is a huge sleeper at QB Could they win with D and ball control on offense? It may be easier to do quickly than by trying to improve the offense. If I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking this.

PREACH PREACH PREACH. Finally someone makes the perfect comparison. Mahomes has generational talent, but it doesn't matter if he's always running for his life.

I think there are some blue/orange glasses looking at the offensive comparisons. Evans is a monster; ARob is good. Their OL rocks; Brady would have died with the Bears' OTs. Jones and Fournette are definitely better. Also, Gronk had five less targets, way more yards, and one less TD; he's better than Graham.

The thing that worries me the most about Wentz is the wrist. I broke mine two years ago, and despite surgery it has never felt right. There are a bunch of little bones in there, and it takes a lot of luck to get back to the original starting point. And he's had several injuries. If he was so good before last year, why did he regress last year? It's likely an accumulation of injuries. Read this take and form your own opinion: https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-concussion-andrew-brandt-20201124.html

Easy question. What is Mack worth in trade? Some of y'all follow that type of stuff a lot more than I do. You're more keen on the salary cap implications. The reason I ask is two-fold: Denver's defense wasn't good in 2020 Fangio is their coach What could the Bears get from them?