jason

I don't disagree with a thing about the "your job" vs. "your opinion on a message board" thing, but my entire point is exactly what you wrote (bolded). I'm not saying any single person on this board could have done better than the upper echelon of GMs in the NFL (as a board collective I still think we'd have a shot), but I am saying many individuals could have done just as good of a job as the Bears' leaders (and several other teams')...something you appear to agree with. BTW - I think your point is interesting, and it's even more interesting considering the chances that JA and Lovie took. You'd think since their jobs were riding on it they'd take fewer flyers on mid-round guys from West Appalachian State A&M and use those picks on guys from the 4 or 5 major conferences because, those guys played against better competition and more future NFL players. If my job were directly related to it, you can guarantee a guy would have to be Randy Moss nasty before I started to seriously consider drafting him over someone from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, WAC, etc.

I think you should quit being an antagonistic, sycophantic lemming who, out of one side of your mouth, questions the decisions of a franchise by posting and speculating on a message board about what the franchise should do, and out of the other side of your mouth make statements about us fans not being able to have informed opinions that could potentially be better than those in a position of influence. The fact that their inside knowledge doesn't produce consistent, successful results is enough to question them. You're falling into what's called the fallacy of the undistributed middle. The simple fact is, if you go back on this board you will find a litany of good and bad choices/decisions/draft pick scenarios made by board members. And the success rate - based upon the careers of those players on other teams - wouldn't be that different from the Chicago Bears over the same time period. And please, quit with the dumbass "you should go apply" line. It's been used before and it's completely unfeasible. Had I thought about it before, when I was younger and didn't have a career and/or family, I would have probably tried to do something in sports. As I'm sure many on this board would have. But the next guy without connections who decides midway into his 30s, "You know what? I'm going to go work my way up through and organization and become a GM!" will be the first guy to do it.

It's contradictory because we both acknowledge that A) The coaches/owners have a ton of insight and knowledge to which we are not privy, yet Lovie and crew continued to make horrible personnel decisions. You'd think with A being true, B wouldn't happen.

Not by me. I'd rather see Harvey Unga at FB, Rodriguez as the second TE that everyone seemingly covets, and then the Bears don't have to waste another pick on a TE.

I bolded one thing and italicized another. They are directly contradictory, which is why I don't trust NFL head honchos that much. Our limited knowledge scope may actually be beneficial because we don't factor in extras, superlatives, and personal feelings. What the front office types in the NFL do is essentially insider trading with piss-poor results. BTW - I don't disagree with the notion that Webb played better than Carimi last year. But I don't think it was a drastic difference, and the post-season talk has trumped up Webb far more than he deserves. Furthermore, I believe Carimi actually is better than Webb, but he got injured, got moved, and never really regained his equilibrium as a player.

It's only a win if they fill the RT hole. Otherwise it's just a shell game.

And yet there continue to be absolutely horrible teams in the NFL year in and year out. Never mind the copious scrimmages, practices, tape, and measurements, and people like Ryan Leaf still get drafted. They may know more, but they sure as hell don't do much with all that knowledge. I'm sorry but I'm just not going to blindly agree with the moves this staff makes - I've seen too many horrible moves to believe they are so all-knowing. Particularly from a noob GM and a NFL HC who admittedly doesn't know the NFL landscape as well as other GMs. There is a reason there saying "Can't see the forest for the trees" exists.

If that's the case, then I hope: 1) Cooper or Warmack is there in the first, and they take the starting RG job 2) Carimi is given a legit chance at RT (doesn't appear as such) and beats out Webb for the RT job What it already tells us, however, is the Bears will be going left a lot more than right.

If it's all based on film, then Webb shouldn't be the default RT.

I obviously like this one a lot better. I'm still not a big fan of Brown, but that first four sets up quite nicely.

It's definitely because of the draft. When he came out a lot of the mocks had the Bears taking him. The reason why? Oher was already gone. Even then everyone knew the Bears needed OL help.

And I hope almost the exact opposite. I hope Carimi is actually given a chance at RT, beats out Webb, and Webb becomes the swing tackle. Then the Bears can draft Cooper or Warmack if either fall, and the OL is immediately younger and improved: Bushrod - rookie - Garza - Slauson - Carimi.

I also hate this idea. Webb must be the best damn practice player in the world.

Are you at the minicamp?

Good point. I intended to mention that he threw the previous play caller (Tice) under the bus as well.

I dislike any draft that starts off with Arthur Brown. I just don't think he's a 1st rounder.

Worst case scenario, you're right. If Cooper, Warmack, and Ogletree are gone, it definitely changes things up. I do not want Brown in the first.

I'm not terribly concerned. He's incredibly fast for his size, and hopefully a legit OL coach not named Tice will help him improve technique. I saw him stonewall Mingo, so I know he has the potential. And to be quite honest, dude is a 10 out of 10 in the run game. If the Bears are able to road-grade over defenses with the running game (like Bama), I'm sure the offense will be able to do pretty much what they want (like Bama).

I'm thinking its a typo, and it's really Matt Millen. Either way, guaranteed moron.

That's basically why I said Ogletree has the best chance to start aside from Fluker. He's a very talented player in terms of raw, physical ability.

And everyone thought he would be. You miss all the shots you don't take, but that doesn't mean you stop shooting. And it certainly doesn't mean you ignore the biggest team need because of a missed draft pick by a previous regime.

A TE in the first would be horrible, and it would not create a dynamic passing attack because Cutler won't be able to use all the weapons if he's running for his life...like every year since he's been in Chicago. How many damn years does this concept have to be proven?!?!?!

I was reading between the lines, something he was unable to do when providing a quote...or when trying to rush up the middle. He didn't say the words, but that's what he obviously meant.

I'm not totally against the idea, especially if the draft Fluker. But invites don't always equate to draft picks. These GMs, for all their failures, are usually decent at misdirection. Aside from that, I'm hoping Carimi shows the potential for which he was drafted: RT. I'd rather fill an OG need than an OT need.

He tells us what we already knew...they sucked. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...rs-history.html