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Honestly, almost any of the selections would be fine with me. I wouldn't mind seeing Bama, Bama, Bama as far as OL goes. Just get this shit over with and solidify the OL for 10 years. 1 - Chance Warmack (10 year starting OG) 2 - DJ Fluker (I've seen more than one projection with him as a 2nd rounder) 3 - Barrett Jones (If this requires a late 2nd rounder, so be it.) Not only would this provide three starters, Barrett Jones would have flexibility and could replace Garza when he retires. Not only that, but it would be three players with instant chemistry. And the crazy thing is, starting three rookies like that would be better than the guys playing now. (I know this is never going to happen)

I'm slowly but surely falling into the "who cares if Hester returns"-camp. That guy is going backward far too often for a punt returner. It's ridiculous.

Why call him out for what many are thinking? We all want the Bears to go 16-0, but it's not realistic. So, intelligence says that we sometimes have to take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward. If the Bears win the final 2 and sneak into the playoffs, the most likely scenario is a first round exit. But if for some reason the team squeaks out a win, it will likely mean Lovie stays employed in Chicago, and that would be a negative. Two years in a row now we've seen a last second win that screws the team out of a better draft selection. I think we're all sick of the Lovie mediocrity that ensures a non-threatening team that does just enough to keep his job.

Scoring, Yards, Pass Yds, Rush Yds 2004, OC Terry Shea: 32, 32, 32, 25 2005, OC Ron Turner: 26, 29, 31, 8 2006, OC Ron Turner: 2, 15, 14, 15 2007, OC Ron Turner: 18, 27, 15, 30 2008, OC Ron Turner: 14, 26, 21, 24 2009, OC Ron Turner: 21, 17, 13, 23 2010, OC Mike Martz: 21, 30, 28, 22 2011, OC Mike Martz: 17, 24, 26, 9 2012, OC Mike Tice: 16, 29, 28, 12 D/ST scoring is included in the total, so you can start to lessen the scoring almost automatically. Not many teams have gotten the number of D/ST TDs the Bears have had...especially considering the first couple Hester years. So that's 8/9 years of futility, and 1/9 years of catching lightning in a bottle. Averages: 18th in scoring 25th in yards 23rd in passing yards 19th in rushing yards Interesting tidbit: Aside from the Super Bowl year, look at which OC was responsible for the most rushing yards during Lovie's tenure.

Why? It stands to reason that: A-He'll be more knowledgeable at LT B-He'll be more comfortable at LT C-He'll be better than Webb at LT I see no reason why he shouldn't be given a legit chance to win the LT position at the very first minute of training camp, and be the front runner the entire time. It's not likely he would do worse than Webb.

Other Fire Fire The only way I think Lovie should be given a new contract is if he takes the team to the SB again. This is one of those trump cards all coaches get to use, and I believe it has merit regardless of whether or not the team wins the big game.

No. Then again, I never thought they'd give the LT job to Webb, completely ignore the potential for Carimi at his previous college position (i.e. four years as Wisconsin's LT), put Carimi at RT where he was obviously uncomfortable, bench Carimi in favor of a player who sucked even though it was clear Carimi needed game experience and he didn't really do worse than the other player, then move Carimi inside to a position he has never played (i.e. LG), then ask him to move back out to his #2 position (i.e. RT) when the other guy got hurt/showed he sucked, then pull Carimi again when he didn't transform his first full year in football into one of Willie Roaf's probowl years. This reeks of the type of horrible OL movements and coaching that have plagued the Bears since Lovie Smith has been in Chicago. First round draft picks are like mutual funds. You don't move them around every week/month like you're trying to be Gordon Gecko on the stock market. You let them sit, mature, get better. And with any luck, they do mature, and they reap the multi-year rewards you predicted they would when you drafted them. How about going into training camp next year, Carimi is given a shot to play the position he knows best? LT.

I actually posted this because I wouldn't mind seeing Tebow in a Chicago uniform. I'd like to see him as a #3 with a chance at a #2. At the very least he could be used to mix things up, keep the defense off balance, and breathe new life into a stagnant offense when things get to that. Of course, all this relies on a new OC with a bright mind for using talented players in methods that best suit their abilities.

For one reason or another, I ended up on Jamarcus Webb's Facebook page. And, let me tell you, it's definitely full of his personality. So what's wrong with that? Allow me to extrapolate... He doesn't seem to be a very serious person. Everything seems to be a big game, a big joke to him. It all seems to be about smiling, doing internet contests, and giving away free tickets. He makes regular, late-night runs to fast food restaurants - something I doubt someone like Adrian Peterson or Thomas Jones does. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't like his attitude. For that much money, I expect more. For that much money, he should be more professional, more dedicated. For that much money, and that atrocious play, I'd think he would spend the majority of his time improving his craft, his fitness, his physique, his strength, his knowledge of the game, etc. Matt Forte posted videos of some of his brutal workouts in the offseason, and it showed he was busting his ass to improve. I highly doubt Webb did anything near as difficult. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Looks like there are two QBs available this offseason. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id...cording-sources Any interest in either?

Amen. But there were people who believed adding a backup QB, goal-line RB, and WRs would solve all the offensive woes. Granted, it was nearly unanimous that the OL needed work, but there were still some who thought washing and waxing the car without repairing the engine would make it run better.

I thought the thread was going to simply say "resign."

A decent summary from Telander... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...snt-know-o.html

No kidding. I once went to a Philadelphia Phillies game where they booed everything from the umps, the teams, the ball boys, a guy in the stands who didn't catch a foul ball, a girl on the field competing in a between-inning competition, and the thunder. Yeah, they booed thunder because they knew it would result in a rain delay. Briggs and Urlacher should STFU and play football. Maybe we aren't insiders and don't play the game, but they're not fans who have to constantly deal with subpar play. The difference is, if they fix their end, our end is fixed. If we fix our end, it has no immediate impact on what they do.

Add Bush to IR, just like Connor predicted. Everyone in the organization that deals with health, strength, and conditioning should be fired along with Lovie at the end of the season. There are way too many injuries that happen to Bears players for it to be bad luck. It probably has a little bit to do with Lovie's "Club Med Training Camp," but the injuries the Bears get are just inexcusable.

Not sure. I noticed that too and thought it odd.

I got it from Pro Football Reference. I typically trust their numbers since that's all they do as a "job," but you never know.

I looked at some stats today and found a nugget of interesting data. But first, what does the media spew out all the time about "Lovie Smith's defense"? OMG! They're going to strip the ball. They're going to get turnovers. Well, guess what? They're tied for 13th in the NFL in terms of forced fumbles with 14. And on top of that, only three teams in the top 16 recover less of those forced fumbles. >TEAM FF REC PER KC 15 16 106.67% DEN 14 13 92.86% PHI 23 21 91.30% NYJ 18 16 88.89% BUF 15 13 86.67% PIT 19 15 78.95% ARI 14 11 78.57% TEN 17 12 70.59% MIA 18 12 66.67% SD 19 11 57.89% CAR 16 9 56.25% CHI 14 7 50.00% IND 19 9 47.37% STL 15 7 46.67% WAS 16 6 37.50% Since Tillman has 10 of those FFs, and his FFs led to 2 of the recoveries, I'd expect Lovie to get Tillman a VERY big Christmas present/bonus this year. Because without Tillman, the Lovie Smith defense gets exposed more than it already has been.

Ultimately, that's my point. The NFL guys make no secret about what/how they call fouls, and why they throw flags. This is readily available information for all the NFL players and coaches. And since Jeffery clearly didn't know/care about one of the tell-tale signs (i.e. extending an arm to create separation), it's on Drake, then Tice, then Lovie. Like the calls or not, they fit into the definition of OPI in the NFL Rulebook, and they fit specific criteria used by the NFL officials when making an OPI call. It's a no-brainer, and you're going to see the flag 9 out of 10 times when it's that obvious. BTW - I don't know which one you are saying created no advantage, but it has to be the second one. The first one the defender ended up on the ground, and the last one was full arm extension with separation towards the sideline that was as text-book OPI as you can get.

1. And if that 10-12 yard chunk is covered? What then? 2. I agree he should have probably thrown it after a few seconds or so. Just put it up into double (triple?) coverage to Brandon Marshall and taken a chance. But, in his defense, he would have been butchered for that as well because it would have been interpreted as "Cutler doesn't care about actually winning." He was in a no-win situation really, and you're nit-picking him because he was trying to keep a slim hope of chance alive by looking for a WR who was actually open, rather than one covered by multiple defenders, in a situation where he should never have felt a hint of pressure.

Call me out all you want, but if the Bears win it will be a mixed bag of emotions for me. I'll love the win, but hate the fact that it's false hope (they'll get killed in the playoffs), and it's a small arrow in Lovie Smith's quiver.

Completely agree.

Thank you http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chicago...ie-smith-121612

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