jason

Just say no to RPO. Run-oriented, play-action pass is what has been working.

Agree. I've been saying that for over a decade. Sure, we'd have hits and misses, but we'd be better than Pace. It seems the Bears have such a difficult time putting together a GM who can evaluate talent, and a HC who can utilize the talent drafted.

If anyone wants to crown Trubisky's ass, then crown him. But the fact remains, Trubisky is who we thought he was. It's time to move on. Overpaying an average guy who 99% of Bears' fans wanted to cut just two months ago is a horrendous idea, especially when his recent "improvement" is more about game-planning than anything he did personally, and is just average to begin with anyway. Let's be real; he's averaging 250ypg, 2TDs, 1INT over the last five games. That's not exactly stellar; it's just a glass of tepid water for Bears' fans crawling through the QB Wasteland for so many years.

Start off OT, OT, and QB who could very well deserve the Heisman? Then follow it up with an anchor in the defensive middle? THEN get a ball-hawking, play-making LB? I don't even care about the rest of the picks (great picks, BTW), but that's a home run. Is it such a difficult concept to pick a young stud QB and then surround him with maulers who protect him like their lives depend on it? When was the last time the Bears had a draft that anyone, much less everyone, thought was a home run?

Did you really draft two TEs the year after Kmet...on purpose?

Anything 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 is the Lovie Trap. Sure, there is the brief playoff euphoria, and it's possible for the lowest seed to make it through to the SB, but it's extremely unlikely. And this team isn't really good enough to increase those 1/1,000,000 odds. The end result is a quick playoff exit, coaches who get to stick around when they probably shouldn't, a worse draft pick for a team that needs more draft capital, and a team that is further away from being an actual threat than they actually believe.

Like Leno, Lance Louis, Webb. I just wish it didn't take so long for them to decide the random, late-round guy who is better than the horrible, in-house competition isn't actually a good player.

Amazing what happens when an play caller emphasizes the running game. Also, kudos to Lazor for emphasizing play-action over and over and over again. The Bears looked really good on offense because the strategy was predicated on running the ball, then using the run to work play action with Trubisky rolling out. It reminded me of the old Titans offense with McNair, George, and Wychek. It's nice to see someone who understands how to use the weapons on the team instead of shoving the square into the round hole.

I'm a numbers guy. Over the course of a decade plus on this board, there was an analysis I can never find that proves higher picks equal better players by percentage. It was exhaustive and done by position. Sure, you can find Brady late, but the odds are not as good. That's kind of my entire point. In order to have those studs, the odds are extremely better if the pick is higher. I'd agree with you if the Bears had a winning culture, but they don't. If we were on the Patriots board I'd be singing the same song you are. But these are the Bears, and constantly getting a pick in the middle of the round is not as good as unless your GM/HC/Front Office has a great track record of drafting studs, which the Bears obviously don't. For the record, I understand fighting for a playoff spot. I can't blame the team for doing that, obviously. I just hate the meaningless wins. If there is no chance at the playoffs, put in the JV and see what you have on the roster.

Bingo.

Even if they win out, they're 9-7, a likely first round exit, and a mediocre draft pick. This is a discussion that goes back on this board to the Lovie years. Some say winning breeds the confidence to continue winning. Well, sometimes that's true, but with this team it doesn't hold the pattern. How many years can that argument be made? Winning those meaningless, end of year games don't help the team build for the future. It just provides a temporary confidence, and a middle-of-the-round pick that doesn't help as much when team-building if it's the only one you have. The only time the odds are in a team's favor with a mid-teen pick are when a trade down happens (what should have happened instead of picking Trubisky).

Preach. I'm sick of the Bears having less picks than they should have because Pace thinks he's the smartest guy in the NFL.

HA! Yes, he died in my scenario. As others have mentioned. I forgot all about him because he's on IR. He actually seemed to be doing OK before injury. No wonder since he's the only OL pick in the last four years selected before the fifth round. Philosophy of my scenario remains the same, and I definitely disagree with the notion that any of the other random names have played well enough to ignore drafting better players in higher rounds. To me Mustipher is like a midget (normal Bears OL play) saying he'd love to be 4'11" (Mustipher). When you're used to seeing midgets, 4'11" is pretty tall. Ignoring OL is the primary reason why the Bears have been mediocre at best for 2+ decades. I'd like to see them make it the #1 priority, and watch the skill players benefit as a result, before I die.

1. Fire Pace and Nagy. Bring in someone old-school who values team-building via the trenches, who likes play-action passes, who loathes RPOs, and who wants perfect simplicity over imperfect, 30-page playbooks full of inconsistent fancy shit. 2. Move Whitehair back to Center where he belongs. 3. Draft OL-heavy (Serious about the picks): Round 1: For the love of God, trade down and accumulate picks. Round 2: Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama Round 2: Deonte Brown, G, Alabama Round 3: Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State - Randy Moss vibes Round 4: Mac Jones, QB, Alabama Round 4: BPA D Round 5: OG (I wouldn't mind Tommy Kraemer, G, Notre Dame) Round 6: BPA D Starting OL (Yes, I'm serious about the picks): LT - Alex Leatherwood LG - Deonte Brown C - Cody Whitehair RG - Whoever wins RT - Germain Ifedi That should be a damn good start to things.

It's been that way for two decades. Only legit OL the Bears have had in the last 20 years was the SB year. But most fans will still call for the Bears to draft a QB, and then another WR, and replace Montgomery. And then question anyone who says the Bears front office is wrong for drafting the skill players without an OL to carry the weight. **shrug**

Hence the disdain for the simpletons running the organization who, year after year, can't see the forest (Deshaun Watson) for the trees (Mitch Trubisky).

Ditto. I wasn’t expecting a WR at all.

Looks like he has to learn 7 of 9. He’s got fade and post, but that looks about it.

Agree. With that many, there will be pressure. They all know the Bears won’t pickup more than one. Whoever handles the pressure the best is likely to do the best, and better suited for gameday.

You’re right about the trade value, but trade volume is important as well. The Bears lost a pick. They already had limited picks. Since none of the picks are guaranteed, especially the later the round, it makes sense to have as many bullets in the gun as possible.

And you’re a dipshit crybaby who runs to moderators when things don’t go your way. I could tell you the sun is hot and you’d find issue because 10 years ago I removed an obviously political post that was against the rules. (Ironic: I agreed with the politics of it.) The facts are that Howard didn’t fit perfectly, but he was a very good RB. The front office created a hole where there previously wasn’t one. Which forced their own hands into drafting a RB, one that Pace obviously loved so much he basically promised Montgomery it was going to happen beforehand.

I’m barely over an hour from Nashville and didn’t even want to go or watch. I watched Avengers Endgame instead. He’s a shifty player and he will make some great runs, but it won’t be enough to make up for how it all went down.

I hate it. It’s a bad move. And I don’t care what anyone says. The Bears had a similar RB, who was proven, but dumped him for pennies on the dollar. And probably because the management already knew who they wanted. So they purposely made a hole where there wasn’t one, and then filled it...maybe. That’s like having a sturdy wooden boat and punching a hole in it, watching water pour in, all just because you wanted to prove the patch kit you liked could do a better job. AND they had to trade up to get him. This front office becomes enamored with specific players and gets nervous, which causes the trading up. It occurs far too much.

I’m saying we know what those dudes are. It’s a weak spot. If a 3-4DE is there with good value, it should be getting more focus than positions like OLB and TE, where starters are much better.

The comparisons don’t work. Goldman is a different position with different responsibility, and RRH is also subpar. Why I feel comfortable saying this is the fact that neither RRH nor Nichols ever really stepped up and/or surprised last year. At best they were the DE equivalent of QB game managers.