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Not that the packers game matters for playoffs, but the "OMG Erin Rogers is so perfect"-nonsense from broadcasters continues. A come from behind drive was followed by an ATROCIOUS holding call on the Jets DB that brought back a 105yd INT return for the 2-pt flip.
It was packers 36 Jets 35, would have been Jets 37 packers 36. But everything goes the way of the packers and rogers (who still has a 5 second pocket every other play and the lin never gets called for a hold), they get another shot, and it's packers 38 Jets 35.
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I'm loving this season. LOVING. But I'm worried. I feel like this season is a lot like Icarus. Flying too far too fast could cause huge problems.
Amos needs re-signing now. Fuller, Floyd, Bush are all in 2019, and Eddie Jackson should be on tap quickly thereafter. One more year like this one, and I'm sure there are a few who others who will want to restructure. We won't be able to keep them all.
Add that to the fact that there is a serious lack of draft picks, and I'm a bit worried about the path forward. I feel like the window is open, but it's only open for a year or two more.
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I don't understand why everyone is jumping all over a guy for wanting not just the defense to do well, but also to have a stud QB?
The D was awesome. The win was awesome. Trubisky kind of sucked. What's so hard about that? Why can't we want a dominating Defense AND a great QB? Especially considering he was a highly touted first rounder that required extra picks.
We should expect by now that he's figuring it out a bit more than he is. His problem for weeks and weeks has been sailing the intermediate and long passes. It's been pointed out numerous times on this board. I'm not a QB or throwing movement expert, but someone on the team professes to be. That's something to be addressed. It's not acceptable to just say, "This team is winning! It's great to win! Who cares if our first round QB is still making the same mistakes."
16/30 for 1 TD, 3 INTs, and one or two other bad passes that could have potentially been INTs. That's not acceptable. Middle of the road in just about every other passing stat, except for INTs where he's near the worst in the league. That's not acceptable.
Is it possible to criticize without being called a negative person? Is it possible to wish for perfection without being called a negative person?
I love this team. I love this defense. I just want everyone else to be as good, or at least close to that level.
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6 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
This is primarily for Jason because I know he's a HUGE fan of his but J'Marcus Webb is still out there and may be available as a tackle option. He was slated to be the starting RT for Indy until he hurt his hammy. Apparently he's currently on IR. But there's hope....
LOL!! Hard pass.
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1 hour ago, adam said:
Roquan is tied for 9th in solo tackles thru 11 games and 7 total tackles from 10th with 5 games remaining. You may have under-estimated him.
Nice! I remember saying that but I didn't realize he was that high!
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20 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
As an interesting cross-set, outside of Jackson, some of the Bears top defensive players were from smaller schools, most notably Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks. I don't quite know that your example above is all that stastically significant since a heck of a lot of the players I see listed were 1st round picks. The interesting scenario would be is there a higher percentage of later round picks who go on to become quality players who are drafted from bigger schools vs. smaller schools. Further more, I've been curious how much analytics teams look at over the course of recent draft history to see if certain body types / player attributes project better in later rounds (i.e., are you better to take a guy who looks like a great athlete who hasn't produced vs. a bigger name program guy who had great stats but his combine times weren't that good, etc). Going beyond that are there certain attributes that statistically are more significant (i.e, CB in a man scheme's shuttle type or something).
I'm not saying it's impossible to find a stud from Kent State or Tulane. I'm saying the percentage of NFL players from just a certain number of colleges is statistically significant. Look at pretty much every letter on the following link and you'll find considerably more players from the usual suspects.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/college
You can win a bet if you choose a roulette number, but your odds are much better over the long run if you pick a a color.
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17 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
And he's on a team with a 6-5 record in contention for a playoff spot versus his previous team...which may not.
Of the current NFL players there are 50 alumni from Alabama, 28 of which are on the defense. To include players like Jonathan Allen, Mark Barron, Landon Collins, Marcell Dareus, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Dont'a Hightower, Dre Kirkpatrick, CJ Mosely, Reggie Ragland and our own Eddie Jackson. And of the 'top 10' colleges represented by total numbers of players currently in the NFL, Alabama is near the top (close second to LSU or lead depending on the year). Of those 10, six are in the SEC.
Preach.
GMs get too cute. The better players generally go to the bigger football schools. Any GM who made a commitment to simply drafting from a set of 10-15 perennially good/great teams would likely be a superstar GM for as long as he wanted a job.
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Honestly, they deserve the Alex Smith injury way more than the Redskins did. How they managed to get 2 decades of 2 QBs is beyond enraging and believable. It wouldn't pass for a legit movie script if pitched in Hollywood.
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Week 13 at NYG - W
Week 14 vs LAR - L
Week 15 vs GB - W
Week 16 at SF - W
Week 17 at MIN - WIf the Bears can beat the Rams, they are legit Super Bowl contenders.
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I just feel like the offense needs a strong run game to continue the success. The pessimist in me says sooner or later it will be opposite of Shoop. The defense will dare the Bears to run by dropping more into coverage and testing Trubisky's decision-making processes. And unless the Bears figure out how to actually maximize Howard's running style, that could pose a problem.
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Pathetic that they didn’t get Howard the rock much, much more. That should have been the game plan. I am happy Daniel didn’t ruin the game, but why they didn’t lean on the run a ton more is a complete mystery.
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19 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
Yeah, I don't think Daniel is very good. He can certainly win the game, but defense and others are going to have to play. He knows where to throw the ball to, so from that standpoint that is okay, but he just doesn't have near the skillset as Mitch.
I actually think Daniel is pretty good, given the right system. I think he could flourish in the current system we have, kind of like Alex Smith looked in the KC offense. Without the KC offense, Alex Smith is Alex Smith. And put a great talent in an offense like that, and someone like Patrick Mahomes torches the league.
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13 hours ago, AZ54 said:
I'd be all in on that deal. With RBs being in more demand lately, the good 3rd RB is often taken in Rd 2. If not, then likely before we pick late in the 3rd Rd. Then again everyone said Pace was crazy for taking Cohen in Rd 4. If he really likes someone, at any position, he will just go get 'em.
- We can't guarantee Kamara is Kamara on draft day.
- You're saying teams already have two starting RBs, and they're taking 3rd RBs in the 2nd round? Which team did this?
- Regarding Cohen, remember that I was the first person to point him out to the board. Aside from patting myself on the back, I'm pointing out that I agree with the overall idea of BPA trumps all, if that player pans out. If, however, a 9.9 BPA player trumps a 9.8 player who is in a dire position of need, it hurts twice as much when that 9.9 turns out to be a 4.9.
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10 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
Can’t say as I agree. QB has ultimate choice on where it goes. The receiver ran a seam route into the middle of outside zones. Meaning there was someone(s) underneath for a shorter dump.
The second INT was just slop. Looks like Robinson may have stopped the route but still Trubiksy’s pass sailed high. He’s got to work on those long routes. Last week he was pretty much spot on but today he got sloppy again. He had at least two others that could’ve just as easily been picked off.
But before I get accused of being too negative; for a large portion of tonight’s game Trubiksy looked confident and solid. His scrambling has definitely become a new positive wrinkle to the offense.
Agree.
I LOVE the progression and improvement Trubisky has shown. He's pretty lethal on mid-range and underneath stuff. Tom Brady has proven a career can be made on such passes. However, when the opportunities present themselves, they have to be exploited. Trubisky is still struggling with 1-2 really bad decisions a game, and a few poorly thrown long balls per game. Right now I'll take those flaws, but they could hurt the Bears eventually.
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10 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
I'm all about starting with OL. Long and Massie, for different reasons, cannot be counted on. After that, we need to look at selective BPA. There's a good history of players you can get in FA, but others are not so easy to come by. I can see a speed back from a small school in the mix, with a dash of OLB and DB. TE, QB, DT and WR shouldn't be on the list.
It should come as no surprise that I 100% agree with this. The next year's draft should be all about making Trubisky as comfortable as possible, and limiting how much he is FORCED to run.
3rd: OT/OG
4th: OT/OG
5th: S/CB - Depending on who re-signs
7th: BPA
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17 hours ago, adam said:
Just the fact that he doesn't tell Cunningham to take a knee if the ball is in the end zone is enough for me.
Here were Cunningham's 4x returns (3 were downable) from Sunday:
1Q - 1-yd deep, returns 18 yards to the 17 (-8)
3Q - 4-yds deep, returns 31 yards to the 27 (+2) (+15 yard NE penalty) - only worthy return
3Q - 1 yd line, returns 24 yards to the 25
4Q - 3-yds deep, returns 19 yards to the 16 (-9)So 3 kicks into the end zone, and on those kicks, we lost a net of 15 yards total compared to if we just downed it and took it at the 25. The issue with the two bad kicks was the first one was our first drive after NE scored, and the last one was in the 4th quarter when we were trying to mount a comeback.
Cunningham is averaging 22 yards a return and only has two returns longer than 25 yards (out of 7). On his only other return longer than 25 (28 against TB), he caught it 5 yards deep and only got it out to the 25.
So out of 7 returns, Cunningham has got past the 25 once (to the 27).
Preach.
More than once I've yelled "Take a knee!" on kickoff returns.
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1 minute ago, Mongo3451 said:
Nah
How do you figure? Trubisky had two in the game already. And he threw 2 or 3 other really bad passes into coverage. If I recall correctly, there were two in the EZ alone.
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What I said last week still holds very true about Trubisky:
- He has a bad long ball that sails more often than not.
- He has happy feet in the pocket and looks to run far too often.
- He makes a handful of horrendous passes each game.
On the third item, it's just a matter of time before he has a 4-5 interception game. For whatever reason the other teams are dropping gimme interceptions.
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11 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Gotta say, I hate stats. Eye test tells me Trubisky is getting better...
Co-signed. What I like the most is that if he throws a check-down or a pass for less than 10 yards, he can thread that needle with deadly accuracy.
However, he has serious flaws right now with three critical things:
- The long ball. He floats it up and overthrows his receivers. Could be a mechanical issue.
- The internal alarm clock. He has the propensity to run at a greater rate than I like. If the pocket is there, sit in it and find a receiver.
- Decision making. Honestly, there should have been 4 interceptions by the Dolphins. If not more.
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On 10/14/2018 at 5:54 PM, adam said:
One thing to note, the officials blew a bunch of calls. Go look back at the Wilson screen passes that went for huge gains. The other WR's were blocking before he caught the ball. Both times they should've been flagged, especially after the Burton call in the end zone. He has every right to run his route and doesn't need to yield to the defender. Complete BS. Floyd also got a few bogus calls, so Amendola can keep fighting for a first down and we have to gently pull him to the ground, either stop trying to advance, or get throw down. Then there was the phantom Roughing the Passer, where he tried to block the throw and flashed right in front of Osweiler, barely touching him. Horrible officiating. You can't beat the refs.
I didn't watch the game, but you should know the screen pass is the one time receivers are allowed to block beyond the line of scrimmage before the ball is caught. It's also when linemen are allowed to go downfield before the pass is thrown. As long as the pass is completed behind the line of scrimmage.
Also, I did see the foul on Floyd. That was legit. You're not allowed to bodyslam people like the 1960s NFL.
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3 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
So I agree with you on the bold. To be honest what bugged me the most about Mitch was that awful throw he made near the end of the 1st half (where he threw to 2 Seattle defenders at the end zone) which should have been pick. I have zero idea what he read or saw and can't figure out what happened there. Horrendous decision. The other throw I didn't like was the one I bolded above, which was on our first drive of the game and extremely close to being a pick 6. Just struck me as way too dangerous of a throw. Outside of those two throws, I didn't have an issue with any other reads he made. His pick to Robinson was the right read just a bad throw and I think that with time, he will be fine. He's not adjusted to this offense and with that, his mechanics are out of synch a bit when he's in the pocket and that led to him throwing a bad ball there. Similarly, he made a bad throw to Gabriel...again mechanics plus a linemen impacted him...but the read was crisp and throw was the right one...just not accurate.
When you see him just "play", i.e., when he gets out on the roll, etc, his footwork gets back to normal (since he isn't over-thinking...like most young QB's do) and his accuracy sharpens up. I'll believe what everyone says about his accuracy (that is it a huge asset) and thus presume that with time and him gelling in the offense and building comfort, he'll fall back to those natural good accurate tendencies.
I will also say, it isn't often that Mitch makes throws like that one he made at the end of the 1st half, but if starts doing that regularly, than yes, we can start about having a Jay Cutler on our hands. I also think some of this is Nagy wants Mitch to take calculated risks and it is taking Mitch a while to get that into his head because Fox was so hard on him about not making mistakes / turnovers.
Agree. I'm not down on his decision making so much. He's done well there. But he's sailed a few passes, which will lead to INTs, and the poor decisions he does make seem to be very poor.
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1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
Same here Pix.
I was going to respond to AZ about this matter but saw your response and felt compelled to add my two cents because my thinking is similar. Comparing Trubisky to Watson and Mahomes right now is not fair to Trubisky. Going back to their college years both Mahomes and Watson had 2.5 (nearly 3) years as starters where Trubisky didn't get that distinction until his Junior (and final) year. In all the games played Mahomes was 857 of 1349 attempts for 11,151 yards with 93 TDs and 29 INTs. Where Watson was 814 of 1207 attempts for 10,168 yards with 90 TD's and 32 INTs (its also noted that he ran for an additional 1934 yards and scored 26 TDs - and played in two NCAA championships; winning one). Lastly although he too had a three year career, Trubisky's total accumulation was 386 of 572 attempts for 4,762 yards with 41 TDs and 10 INTs. Good, bad or indifferent; Trubisky simply hasn't had the same level of experience that these other guys have had. You pair that with his lack of participation in this year's preseason and it's pretty obvious (at least to me) why he seems to be struggling. He simply doesn't have the 'stick time'.
I'm still flabbergasted why Pace did what he did to get Trubisky but as many here have pointed out, he's our man. Similar to the rest I'm hoping (wouldn't say optimistic) Trubisky works out. So far I find myself feeling like all we did was get ourselves another Cutler...and that pains me to think that way.
Same. Only, Cutler proved he could be a stud in Denver, but got to Chicago and got worse because he was behind a horrible OL for several (most) years with the Bears. Right now, Trubisky hasn't even proven he can be Cutler.
And to be quite honest, the comparison is scary for one other reasons: interceptions. Trubisky could easily have 2-3 more interceptions this year already. He sails a few per game, and it's just a matter of time before one of them is a crossing route that goes into a Free Safety's hands. Also, the out route he threw this past week was a stupid throw, barely complete by inches. It was awesome to be sure, but it was also the type of risky throw that leads to more INTs.
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That's cool. I don't remember anyone reacting like that to anything Lovie ever did. Crowton maybe in his first year. Otherwise, this is uncharted territory for the Bears.