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I think you're probably right, but we have to wait at least one more draft to know for sure. If "Emery" makes the picks this year, and it smells like the same draft from previous years, then we'll know it's really Lovie pulling the strings.
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It's fair to disagree on the one play. I feel like he was pressured enough that it caused Jay to alter movement/throwing motion. But I disagree that it doesn't matter what the opposition runs. If the opposition runs stunts the entire game and never directly attack an OLineman, then we don't know what the OLineman's initial post-snap ability is for quicker DEs. If the DL always attacks the gaps, and sends nobody outside the OT, there is a higher likelihood the OT will get OG help and a potential double team. It may not matter as much as the OLineman's performance on his limited isolation plays, but it matters.
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Did you watch the same game? Webb most definitely didn't play well. First of all, the Redskins, for some ridiculous reason, used slant-rushing towards the gaps and didn't attack Webb much. Not a solid move on their part, but it helped hide Webb's deficiencies. On top of that, the Bears ran right as a probable way to avoid the weak side of the line (focus on the strength). And, of course, Tice is holding true on his promise to help the OL with lots and lots of double TE sets. I think it's sad that the Bears have to employ a double-TE set with what amounts to at least 6 Linemen, but that's just me. I'd rather have a good OL that can do their job, and use the TE for more of an attacking role. Having said that... The first ISO of the game that Webb got was a shotgun play and he got pushed straight back into Cutler, causing the throw to be a bit quicker than necessary (for what it's worth, Carimi got pushed back too). On the second series Webb got destroyed on an inside move, but he was just lucky that the run was to the right. If that run goes left, it's a loss behind the LOS. He certainly had some good plays, had a few good pushes, and one memorable seal block, but he didn't really play well. At best he gets average, and you're right about Williams; he did better than Webb. And yes, Spencer looked awful.
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I watched the game on DVR and focused solely on the OL. LT Webb played subpar. He is susceptible to interior rushes, was directly accountable for a sack (outside rush forced QB forward too early), and rarely stands out. Williams easily played better, but he is susceptible to some outside moves. What's interesting is the Bears did most of their work towards the right side of the line. LG Spencer didn't look that good. He got beat inside, outside, got pushed back, and missed a blitz pickup. Rachal actually looked better, but he's woefully slow on pulling plays C Garza looked pretty good the entire game. Never amazing, but never bad. RG Louis actually looked better than any other OLineman. He got the second level multiple times and was responsible for some great plays. RT Carimi needs to maintain his blocks throughout the play and drive the DE upfield a little more. On a few plays he let his DE go upfield a little too easily, and on others he fought hard. But when he fought hard and the play went inside (i.e. the QB stepped up or there was a move forward) he tended to let his man go. More than once that man made the tackle. The starting OL, based upon the first two preseason games, should be as follows: Williams - Spencer - Garza - Louis - Carimi And the Bears should immediately start scouting for LGs in the 2013 draft. Side note: Remember everyone saying the Bears didn't need an OG? David DeCastro sure would look good at LG right now.
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Just saw the play in question...the announcers were wrong. And ill-informed to be quite honest. That was a legit DPI because Tillman cut off the WRs route. DPI is typically categorized as one of the following: 1) Arm bar 2) Playing through the back 3) Early contact 4) Arm restriction 5) Cutoff 6) Hook & Turn At the higher levels the DBs know these categories so they are coached to look back at the pass and "feel" for the WR, slow down in front of him, or "accidentally" run diagonally into the WR. The lattermost category is what Peanut was doing, and he knew it.
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I haven't seen it yet. It hasn't been replayed on NFL network.
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The fact remains, if the Bears were not running the cover-2 on that play, Urlacher would likely not have been in that awkward situation where he was drifting backward, without vision, guarding a WR on a jumpball, where there was inevitable contact from a safety. As for Urlacher being more effective because of the cover-2, I just disagree. He would be great in any offense because his lateral speed is incredible for a man his size. And, yes, they were out of it by the time the last game was played. 100% out of it. They are paid to improve the team, and if sitting out one meaningless game means Urlacher is healthy for the subsequent 16 games, then you sit him in the meaningless game. He could play, but why take the chance? Game 16 last year should have been used exclusively to monitor and evaluate backups. This is chess, not checkers.
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Side note: I personally know the replacement Umpire working the Bears v. Redskins game. I'll be interested to see how well he does, how he moves, what he looks like.
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10-6 or 11-5
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Racking my brain, but for the life of me I can't figure out why this would be on Major Wright? He went for the ball, exactly as a safety is supposed to do. He ensured it was an incomplete pass. If you want to blame someone, blame Lovie for running the cover-2 as his favored scheme. And before anyone replies with "the Bears don't run the cover-2 that much," they sure as hell ran it on that play, and it's the entire reason why Urlacher was deep middle on a pass coverage route.
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Sure am glad the Bears got that season-ending win last year! Awesome job guys! Way to go! Totally made everything worth it!! You da man, Lovie!
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-Lovie will get more than 50% of his replay challenges correct -Tice is forced to use double-teams and 3-step drops on the majority of pass plays because of Webb's ineffectiveness -Cutler gets dinged up and misses one game with a non-serious injury -Lovie/Tice are forced to replace Webb with Williams the first game after the bye week -Cutler complains about the OL to the media -Cutler comes back after the bye week and rips the league a new asshole (4000yds, 38 TDs, 14 INTs) -The DL causes havoc the entire year and gathers 45 sacks (10+ Peppers, 6 McClellin, 10 Melton, 4 Paea, 7 Izzy) -The Bears passing defense becomes one of the top ten -The Bears rushing defense suffers as a result of the dash to the QB and the opponents' desire to keep Cutler and Co. off the field -Alshon Jeffery takes over the starting Z spot after the bye week -Because of Marshall and Jeffery's dominance, and the desire to get Hester more snaps on offense, the Bears will run more 4-WR sets than in quite some time -Urlacher is not available for 2-3 weeks -Bush "Touchdown Vulture's" 6-10 TDs from Forte -Rodriguez gets minimal playing time as Kellen Davis asserts himself as a pass catching threat
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Moderate sarcasm for the reasons you've listed.
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If that's the case, then ask your friend WTF Lovie is seeing/watching if he thinks Webb is capable of playing LT competently. He sure has hell hasn't shown anything near that in the time on the field, so he must be one of those classic practice superstars like Dez "Stone Hands" White.
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And how do you know this? Remember, it was Tice who drove this train to begin with since he was so enamored with Webb's blocking sled skills.
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As if I wrote the article myself. I wish Tice would quit dicking around with Williams and having him play three or four different positions. It's unfair to Williams and it's not the same, true opportunity that his pet project Webb has received. It's almost like Tice is stacking the deck in favor of Webb, but Webb just sucks too much to get a trump card.
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Yes, that's the point. Now, if we could get the OL to coordinate their bad plays into one horrendous play, and just end up with a sack every third or fourth possession, I'd be good with it. Cutler probably wouldn't, but I would. That would mean three or four possessions in which they played well together and produced. As it stands now, however, they take turns tripping over their dicks and the offense doesn't ever get a chance at consistency. It's the same thing I said last year when people tried to compare the Bears OL to the Packers OL. They have more consistency when they screw up, somehow. On average Webb probably screws up 3 out of 10 plays. Williams probably 2 out of 10. Webb has higher ceilings (allegedly) and lower floors (we've seen it). So I see it like the following for 10 hypothetical plays: J. Webb: B, C, F, A, F, C, C, F, A, A Williams: C, C, F, C, F, C, C, B, A, B I just like the Williams odds better, especially when you consider Spencer will probably screw up 2 or 3 out of 10; Louis will blow 1 or 2 out of 10, and Garza has an occassional lapse. With Webb the percentages are just not in the Bears favor. Give me a team that can always get 3 or 4 yards over a team that can get 20 one play and get the franchise QB hauled off on a stretcher the other.
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Urlacher- espn- Now at 6 days without practice!!
jason replied to Chitownhustla's topic in Bearstalk
Gotta love the classic Lovie "this game means nothing, will cost us draft picks, could potentially injure a player or two, so let's go all out"-philosophy. -
1. Rex/Olin made some crucial mistakes in the snap exchange 2. The defensive scheme allowed Manning to dink and dunk all day with impunity 3. Grossman took all the wind out the sails with a all but game-ending pick-6 Mostly, though, it was poor offensive performance that cost the Bears. They shot their wad in the first quarter.
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I paid very special attention to the OL, and I'm guessing you really didn't if you think Webb did anything other than poorly. Unless, of course, you're really considering his performance later on against the scrubs, he did not do well. In three of the first four possessions he had at least one play where he did poorly, and I marked multiple plays where Webb would have been credited with poor performance, a pressure, or a sack, if not for the quick release/design of the play. Credit Tice for disguising Webb's flaw, but I'd rather have a solid player who can allow the Bears' OC, whoever that may be, to run whatever play he would like. Hell, it was the third quarter and there were still plays in which Webb was getting help from a chip-blocker against a scrub. He looks particularly susceptible to inside speed moves, and can be bull-rushed (to be fair, it appears that Williams can be bull-rushed as well). On top of all that, he still had a bonehead false start. This experiment has to end.
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As a person who was not completely on board with the McClellin pick, it should come as a surprise that I completely disagree with your thoughts about him. He's not behind the curve at all. Unless you want Rex Ryan say great things about him. McClellin looked pretty damn good in the one preseason game he has played. While he had a play or two in run defense where he didn't play well, he more than made up for it in other plays/ways. I counted 8 different plays where he had significant impact, and just about each of them were impressive in one way or another. And since he certainly wasn't drafted for run defense, I'd say his production in one game was great.
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1. Didn't see it. Stupid mistake that has no bearing on the game. 2. Holding fouls are "eye of the beholder," and we've been complaining about Peppers being held since he got here. Probably not much of a change. 3. I saw that, and I think the ref made a decent call. After the sack Nick Perry stepped over the QB and flexed his muscles. That could easily be construed as taunting. The players know when they are doing stuff like that. 4. I don't know what the hell the Back Judge was doing in the Buffalo v. Washington game, but he was in the wrong position, AND made the wrong call. Hell, he even dropped his beanbag to signify the end of the kick! Bonehead. I'm far from in the corner of the replacement officials, but I don't think the issues you're bringing up are the really bad ones (aside from #4). I saw several instances where the deep 3 officials (SJ, FJ, BJ) were out of position and made incorrect rulings. That's the worst part because eventually it will lead to a big problem. Last night I saw a TD that was called out at the 1 incorrectly, 2 BJs almost get runover on long passes, and another guy get a spot incorrectly. The real NFL officials need to be paid the extra couple-hundred they're asking for (which is no more than a couple hundred more per game).
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Been a while since we've agreed on anything, but you're spot on about the running game. I've mentioned this a lot in the past, and shown supporting links that cover how the Bears have been one of, if not the worst, teams in the league when it comes to runs stopped behind the LOS.
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Haven't seen the game yet, but sadly it sounds like it could be a game report from last year. In regards to the OL anyway. The Webb experiment needs to stop before he ends Cutler's season. The fact that they continue to play people out of position and give out starting nods based upon how someone looks on a scale is maddening. Webb has not shown the ability to play competently at LT over the past two years. And since Spencer was horrible at OG, it is crazy that the Bears continue to play him at OG when his natural position is C, and the Bears C is naturally an OG.