jason

Odd. I never noticed that. I wonder why everyone wasn't also labeling Mercilus a tweener?

Minnesota got the bears LT and the best FS in the draft. Scary.

Oh God. If Skip Bayless likes the pick we could be in serious trouble.

But GB and NE play what kind of defense again? Oh, that's right, 3-4. Which makes sense why they'd be high on McClellin. What do the Bears play? Not the 3-4? Oops. You are right, however, about NE and GB having great scouting. I hope your optimism pays off, and I hope the guy turns into a legit DE for 4 downs straight, but I'm pessimistic.

In order for it to be polarizing, don't people have to like the pick?

Which goes right towards what I said earlier. It's not a smart pick just because the Bears did something nearly none of us wanted or expected. It's only a smart pick when selections like this one turn the Bears into a perennial powerhouse that threatens for the SB every year. Until then, it looks like a bad fit from either a HC pushing his opinions on a GM or a GM taking a risk when one wasn't necessary.

That's what they're saying, and that's what I hope, but I don't see it. He's too small and weak to be an every down DE. That's why everyone said he fits as a 3-4 guy, not a 4-3 guy.

And just for the record, if he ends up doing well and getting 10 sacks as a situational pass-rusher, it's still not a smart pick. It's Mark Anderson 2.0. It's still a LB who they send after the QB instead of a DE, a player they could have drafted if that's what they actually wanted. It's adding to a position of strength (LB) when there are several similarly or higher rated players available at positions of need.

It could also be because he's got contacts all over the place and someone leaked that the Bears were dreaming about getting him.

That would make sense if the Bears were the Patriots and they were in the playoffs every year and a threat to go to the Super Bowl every year. But since they haven't, and they aren't, it doesn't make sense. If thousands and thousands of Bears fans think the Bears need one of a few positions, it makes sense if the Bears select a player for that position in the first round. It doesn't make a lot of sense to draft a guy who may or may not be that position, especially when there are other guys at those positions rated higher.

Horrible pick. Problems: He's not strong He's not a true DE He's not a true OLB The Bears don't play 3-4 Concussion history Reiff still on the board Decastro still on the board Mercilus still on the board Overall there were better players at bigger positions of need.

Reiff!!!!

Floyd, Hightower, Curry, Mercilus, Reiff all there...WTF is Lomardi smoking?

F McShay and his mock. That would be horrible for numerous reasons.

If that move were made to get Cox, I hate it. If that move were made because Forte is not signable, I'm fine with it. If Khalil gets past Minnesota at 3, I love it. But it's not happening.

Here I was thinking it was about TO and his physical abilities as it relates to the concept of cutting a player (i.e. Rachal) who doesn't perform up to snuff. Maybe that's why I couldn't get you to agree with the fact that he's still physically better than many others in the NFL.

I fully expect draft day disappointment. It goes with being a Chicago Bears fan.

Understood. MJ+Person Fouls+slow combine+throwing coach under the bus=RED FLAG. Having said that, I would still put a 6th or 7th towards him, hoping he gets his head out of his ass. He's definitely got talent greater than someone drafted that late. Having said that, I'd take a bunch of Mike Brown types - guys without the measurables but have great minds and football instincts - every day of the week.

I experience no slow downs on the site.

You continue to paint with a biased brush. I've admitted to numerous Martz mistakes; your memory just isn't that good. But at the same time I'm open-minded enough to admit that a great majority of Martz issues would have been solved if the front office had actually paid attention to getting Martz the tools required to run a professional offense. The QB was a great step in that direction, but the collection of bad-to-average at OL and WR made his job a virtual impossibility.

C'MON! Virtually nobody hit on Urlacher! He was a Safety that got turned into a MLB. I guarantee that wasn't mentioned on most Bears boards at the time.

A dumbass, indeed, but I hope the Bears pick him in the 7th. A talent considerd 2-4 grabbed in the 7th is a steal.

So he's stupid, and uses MJ...how is that different than many other players in the league? This just in, there are guys in the league who get single digits on the Wonderlic - a test so simple the average high school freshman would ace. Hell, Dexter Manley was illiterate! Also, I'm sure there are tons of guys in the NFL who use marijuana.

Likewise. It's all in good spirits. When people vehemently disagree, it's difficult to change the other's opinion.

Good Lord...I wish that too. There would have been hits and misses (saddens me to think we wouldn't have had Urlacher), but I have no doubt in my mind we'd have been better than we have been over the last 5 - 10 years. We may not have had some of the better defensive picks that have come from later rounds, but we would have been much more solid offensively, would have had a much more steady/solid OL, would have been more dynamic on offense with plenty of pass-catching options, and azbearsfan, Martz would have been a success in Chicago as a result (he failed primarily because the OL was shit his entire time here; it's not up for debate - all other problems fixed with a stronger OL). 1st Round quick hitters: -I loved Moss -I hated Enis -I loved Mike Williams -I hated the Benson pick