jason

I agree about OL helping, but I don’t see it turning around the offense enough to make the team very good in ONE year. This is a “save your job” move for Pace and Nagy. As for DL being a strength, we just disagree. Compared to the other positions, that’s where the most help is needed. Maybe 1 OLB, maybe 1 ILB, maybe a FS. Goldman? I agree, if he stays on the field. If not, next man up, and Nichols is not the man.

Picking another QB in the draft this year after the promise Hurts showed this year? That would be moronic. Are they getting advice from the Bears' front office?

I'm not saying it's my preference, but if I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking about a quick turnaround for job security. This team is not going to be very good on offense next year, regardless of the moves they make. But the pieces on defense are a lot better and can carry the team if the right moves are made. Hicks - Goldman - Barrimore: Could be an elite front three that leads to huge success in the 2nd/3rd level.

Let's say Pace and Nagy think their best chance to remain employed is to improve defense. The weaknesses are Nichols, Urban, and Quinn, IMHO. Would something like this draft turn the tide? Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 20: Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama (A) - Urban on the bench Round 2 Pick 20: Dylan Moses, ILB/OLB, Alabama (A) - Utility knife on D Round 3 Pick 19: Tommy Togiai, DT, Ohio State (A) - Pressures Nichols to start Round 5 Pick 20: Joshua Kaindoh, DE/OLB, Florida State (A+) - Super long, pressures Quinn to start Round 6 Pick 20: Jake Curhan, OT, California (A+) - I had to do it Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State (A+) - Huge upside, underrated Round 6 Pick 39 (COMP): Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State (A+) - Could fit nicely at nickle Round 7 Pick 4: Zach Smith, QB, Tulsa (B+) - I actually think this dude is a huge sleeper at QB Could they win with D and ball control on offense? It may be easier to do quickly than by trying to improve the offense. If I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking this.

PREACH PREACH PREACH. Finally someone makes the perfect comparison. Mahomes has generational talent, but it doesn't matter if he's always running for his life.

I think there are some blue/orange glasses looking at the offensive comparisons. Evans is a monster; ARob is good. Their OL rocks; Brady would have died with the Bears' OTs. Jones and Fournette are definitely better. Also, Gronk had five less targets, way more yards, and one less TD; he's better than Graham.

The thing that worries me the most about Wentz is the wrist. I broke mine two years ago, and despite surgery it has never felt right. There are a bunch of little bones in there, and it takes a lot of luck to get back to the original starting point. And he's had several injuries. If he was so good before last year, why did he regress last year? It's likely an accumulation of injuries. Read this take and form your own opinion: https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-concussion-andrew-brandt-20201124.html

Easy question. What is Mack worth in trade? Some of y'all follow that type of stuff a lot more than I do. You're more keen on the salary cap implications. The reason I ask is two-fold: Denver's defense wasn't good in 2020 Fangio is their coach What could the Bears get from them?

100% agree. I'll go one further. If you're going to draft someone #2, after trading up from #3, that guy not only should have won something, but he should have had several "HOLY S#!T" moments in college. To be honest, the red flags from Trubisky were glaring, and I can't really understand why so many were so enamored with him. I remember breaking this down somewhere on the board when he was being discussed, but the dude had a bad game every time he faced a decent team his senior year. 24/40, 156yds vs UGA 13/33, 58yds, 2INTs vs VT 23/39, 280yds, 2TDs, 2INTs vs Stanford I guess Pace must have loved when Trubisky was lighting up James Madison.

At the time Watson made the most sense after tearing NCAA football a new ass. That made a lot more sense that Mitch. And it made a metric ton more sense than trading up for Mitch.

Salt in the wound from Hub. Brings up some good points about questions nobody is asking, and all the more reason - other than the franchise-sacrificing trade - Watson to the Bears is a bad idea. https://www.shawlocal.com/bears/analysis/2021/02/03/hub-arkush-no-one-asking-the-only-question-that-matters-about-deshaun-watson-right-now/

HELL NO. HELL NO. Please, Dear God, please stop Pace from even thinking trading up to take a QB.

Check this out. ESPN's take on the state of the NFL, where teams stand in terms of how close to the SB they are, and the write up on the Bears. Interesting that the Bears are the lowest rated team in their list out of all the teams that made the playoffs. To me it's interesting for two reasons. One, because they realize the Bears weren't really playoff quality. Two, because they realize the Bears are missing several pieces of the puzzle. Which all makes one question why in the hell are Pace and Nagy around for another year? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30795720/super-bowl-lines-all-32-nfl-teams-mix-getting-closer-years-away

Same. Traditional is traditional because it's great looking and everyone knows/loves it already.

Exactly what I was thinking about. If Stafford is worth two 1st round picks, a 3rd round pick, and an average QB who is better than Trubisky or Foles, then WTF will it take to get Watson? I'd guess THREE 1st round picks, or two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks. Either way, that price tag is far too high for a team with numerous holes to fill.

It's an interesting question I never considered. Maybe the Bears are actually hiring competent GMs, but they're just being handcuffed by upper management? All I know is, the guys who have been drafting for the Bears for years have not been doing well.

Go-Go Golladay would be fine with me. I wanted him the year he was drafted.

Your scenario is doable, and I'm actually fine with Steps 1 & 2, but overall Step 3 is a huge hell no from me. There is no way he's worth three 1st and three 2nd round picks. That would make me want to vomit. Losing two more years of first and second round picks is just not acceptable with so many holes on the team. Now, pulling off the Mack and ARob trades to get more picks and then using those picks, that would be outstanding. 1st, 1st (Mack), 2nd, 2nd (ARob), 2nd (Mack) would allow the Bears to truly start a rebuild.

The "are you a pro scout" or "are you a GM" argument is so tired. If that meant anything, the Bears wouldn't have been terrible 30 of the past 35 years. Furthermore, Pace has unequivocally shown a propensity to draft not only poorly, but trade up for poor selections. Hell, look no further than how many of us hated not only the Trubisky pick, but also the trade up for him, which is the primary reason the Bears have sunk to where they are now. Having a pick that high is transformative for an organization, and Pace not only struck out, but but he paid the pitcher to do it. Just about any one of us would have had similar success to Pace over his tenure. We would have hits and misses, some seriously boneheaded picks, but he's missed far more than he has hit. We would have done the same out of sheer luck and percentage.

LMAO!!!! That's HILARIOUS!!! Artie destroyed him!! That felt like Christmas.

Honestly, I wouldn't be excited about this. I'd be OK, but not excited. Definitely my SEC bias. It's because of the schools. No.Iowa, Stanford, Louisville, Houston, Syracuse, Pitt...just not that exciting. Feels like a bunch of guys who get cut because they're not that athletic or don't transition to the pro game very well.

I was thinking the same thing earlier. What is available with the extra picks? Well, here's a different approach. What if the Bears just decided to maximize Foles and see what he can do? Your score is: 35508 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 20: Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virgina Tech (B) Round 2 Pick 20: Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame (B+) Round 3 Pick 19: Seth Williams, WR, Auburn (A+) Round 5 Pick 20: LaBryan Ray, DT/DE, Alabama (A+) Round 6 Pick 20: Feleipe Franks, QB, Arkansas (A+) Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Jaelan Phillips, DE/OLB, Miami (A+) Round 6 Pick 38 (COMP): Shawn Davis, FS/SS, Florida (B+) Round 6 Pick 40 (COMP): Master Teague, RB, Ohio State (A-) Round 7 Pick 4: Ed Ingram, OG, LSU (A+) I'd be ecstatic with this draft. Darrisaw is a monster, and Eichenberg slipping to the 2nd would be a steal. Add a weapon on offense, a QB with potential (Jones and Trask gone in 2nd), and two freaky DL prospects, and that's the plan to replace Arob, Hicks, and Massie.

I think you reverse translated me. I'm saying take the 5th-7th round picks and attempt to trade them to another team. Dumping those picks to get one more 3rd or 4th round pick for the Bears would be ideal.

Good draft. I'd rather figure a way to get that second OT higher in the draft. However... Trask is better than Trubisky. Great pick. Trask would get to throw to a huge, home run threat as well as a familiar target. Trask would be protected by a stud OT. Is that so difficult? Why can't the Bears ever do this? Draft a QB and then protect him and surround him with talent. If the year goes on and he's under pressure a lot, guess what? Go with OL again until it's fixed. Why in the world won't this franchise protect the #1 asset, the most important position on the entire team?

Honestly, I think teams should pile all the 7th and 6th rounders together that they can, maybe even with the 5th rounders, to move into the 4th or higher. Most of the 5th-7th guys are a long shot at best, and similar talent can often be found via FA and/or undrafted players.