jason

It would appear that most of this thread, and probably most Bears fans, disagree with you. The older uniforms, the traditional uniforms, and specifically the Bears uniforms, look much better than the pseudo-Arena League jerseys that are being created nowadays.

What do you mean "worked extremely well" and "brought Illinois into the modern world"? The first part is completely a matter of opinion and up for debate, and the latter part is nonsense. Just because something is newer doesn't necessarily make it better. This is one of those situations. If the Bears changed to that different style that seems less about "modern world" and more about an unnecessary change driven purely by cash and an overeager graphic designer.

Except Webb never sniffed the first round. The only true comparison is in measurables. If Webb were coming out this year we would be reading something like this (minor changes to CBS read about Adams): Pass blocking: Tall, long, questionable pass protector. Generally gets out of three-point stance slowly, stiffly, but with a wide base. Improving his ability in nearly every way, particularly to use his hands to redirect rushers and late blitzers away from the pocket, but mostly because starting at the bottom floor only allows for upward movement. Power rushers probably draw even on most battles, sloppy anchor in close quarters, like his fingers are caught in one of those Chinese finger traps. Stops his size 22 feet after initial contact at times, moves them like his shoes are cemented down, instead relying on length but allowing defender to get the corner or spin inside. Especially the corner. Prone to false start and hold when under stress. Run blocking: Solid but inconsistent positional run blocker who flashes some nastiness. Attacks his man when necessary, though he won't consistently dominate him and will lose his balance by overextending. Molasses feet, can get inside of tackle (when the tackle chooses an outside rush) to wall off inside and nearly never reaches linebackers at the second level adeptly. Nice punch which he uses to knock down smaller defenders with one extension. Like a school yard bully, battles against smaller opponents are the only battles won. Height a detriment in short-yardage plays, defender can get under his pads to hold the line. Flashes the ability to move his man with his hands, but is not yet consistent in this area.

Interesting. I think finding a LB replacement is INCREDIBLY easier than finding a DE that is actually worth a damn. OLBs are the RBs of the defense; get a guy with a lot of athleticism, a good blend of speed/size, and you have a decent chance of making a LB.

That doesn't sound like someone who fails to check boxes. So, at least in that small regard, it's a step up.

Perhaps it's a matter of interpretation. I can't believe someone would honestly be saying "draft only from Div I schools" without there being a caveat in there. Otherwise it would be a ridiculous argument. If Walter gets reincarnated and plays for Austin Peay, then you draft him. But if you have a habit of steering away from D-I talent, then it's probably time to reassess.

Um, yeah, you can pull some out, but I think the original point was that there are many more players from big D-I colleges in the NFL than otherwise. You may strike it rich by playing the lottery, but it's a safer bet to put your money is something with proven success. For instance, just the A's. Smaller Football Schools Abilene Christian - 5 (2 of the drafted by the Bears) Air Force - 1 Akron - 4 Alabama A&M - 2 Alabama St. - 2 UAB - 3 Alcorn St. - 2 Appalachian St. - 5 Arkansas St. - 6 Arkansas Pine Bluff - 1 Bigger Football Schools Alabama - 26 Arizona - 14 Arizona St. - 18 Arkansas - 17 Auburn - 31

Agreed. I would hate a uniform change.

If the Bears get Jackson, and if the original situation for this thread occurs, then Adams makes much more sense. The only way it doesn't make sense would be if the Bears have Floyd ranked much, much higher than Adams, and Floyd is the undeniable BPA at that point.

Agreed. Adams > Webb. There is no doubt. But it just seems the fourth LT would be rated lower on the Bears board than the second WR. Maybe he is. And maybe he is actually a player that has the skills and potential for LT in the NFL. I've read some stuff that is calling him more of a RT than LT. If that's not the case, and he's actually a LT, then I'd have to say Adams over Floyd. As I've been saying for years, it doesn't matter who the Bears get at WR if Cutler is constantly under pressure.

I suppose it would depend on what happened beforehand. But, convential wisdom says that the following players are already gone: Kalil, Martin, Rieff Blackmon I'd rather have a LT, and Adams is projected as a RT, but at that point it would look like Floyd as the most logical choice. If Martin or Rieff are there, however, then I think it's obvious you go LT. The impact would be significant. The improvement over Webb would be drastic and immediate. And WRs are deep this year. The Bears could easily get very good/great talent in the 2nd-4th round at WR.

So you'd take the 2-4 WRs over their comparable LTs? Especially when considering most mocks barely have Wright in the first round, if at all? C'mon man.

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Your memory is not that good. The defense he "put together" and "maintained" has largely benefitted from having one of the best MLB's in history and a great FS for the majority of the time JA's been around. Both of those guys, Urlacher and Brown, were not drafted by JA. Urlacher is a future HoFer who, if not on this team, would have caused the exposure of the cover-2 defense much sooner and much more than it has already been. On top of that, the "above average defense for years" is simply false. They were top-ten 4 times, mediocre (13-16) 4 times, and in the 20s 3 times. Have the Bears been the worst run organization in the NFL over JA's run? No. Have they been close to the best? Absolutely not. Aside from JA's mistakes so clearly listed by MadLith, JA has simply missed on too many draft picks while he's been here. The list of his mistakes and oversight is extensive. The reason he has kept his job probably has something to do with a family management that long ago lost grasp of how to properly run an NFL team, and because he was a safe guy who knew how to handle the salary cap well. The salary cap management, in and of itself, is probably the most enticing GM attribute to the McCaskeys, and it allowed them to overlook his various errors, the six losing seasons since 2001, and the numerous draft misses.

hahaha. I just know that was sarcasm. Right? Lovie cares VERY little about the future. Otherwise he would have started the young guys in a meaningless week 17 game that served the dual purpose of getting younger guys playing time and getting the Bears a better draft pick.

It does if that means moving the C, who is really a G, back to a position in which he's better than he is at C, not to mention much better than the person he'd be replacing at G.

LMAO. Best post in a while

He basically said: Webb is not good enough to be there by himself, and the offense will have to change things to protect Webb. -He wishes he could draft a LT, but doubts they'll be able to -Webb will continue to be the weak link -This weak link will force the Bears to throw short more often to an open WR -"take advantage of the box count" is code for "the defense doesn't respect the OL enough to line up in a zone or pass defense, electing instead to go one-on-one with the WRs and just pound the QB"

I agree that it's unlikely, but I was looking at mocks earlier and found one or two that had it occur. All 6 guys gone. Lots of LBs dropping. And Richardson has fallen in several drafts because of recent history that has changed convential NFL wisdom.

What if the top three OT (Martin, Reiff, Kalil) and the top three WR (Blackmon, Floyd, Jeffery) are off the board when the Bears pick? Aside from being irritated that the Bears needlessly won the last game of the season and ruined their draft pick status, what are you thinking? BPA vs. need becomes a much more interesting question at that point. If this scenario happens, and we're all relatively upset, that could indicate that LBs are getting passed over and a few other nice prospects are falling. Vontaze Bufict, LB, Arizona State Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College Dont’a Hightower, ILB, Alabama Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin Badgers Janoris Jenkins, DB, North Alabama Suppose that list is available. BPA doesn't make a ton of sense since it's obviously Richardson. At that point, what should the Bears do?

As usual, either shut out or virtually shut out on offense.

Dude, could you be more obtuse? The last comment makes it clearly a joke. We all know it's impossible, but I was just voicing opinion on how much more I liked Terrell Suggs now that he called out that douchebag Bayless.

After seeing this, I wouldn't care if the Bears made an incredibly lopsided trade that lost picks to get Terrell Suggs. He is now my favorite non-Bear in the NFL.

TOUCHDOWN JAY CUTLER!!!

I think that because even when you discount it, you have to throw in the caveat of "vs the potential ego issues he ALWAYS shows." And, aside from that, just two years ago he was still playing at all pro levels. Levels beyond what any WR on the Bears has ever reached (assuming Roy Williams is cut and his short stretch of good play is discounted). It's not because he doesn't have enough physical talent to still play. It's because he doesn't have enough physical talent to outweigh his potential (because he was no problem with the last two teams) problems he has off the field.