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Ditto. The interior looks strong, but the OTs are not. There's also the flip-flop of a natural OG playing C (Whitehair), and a natural C playing OG (rookie). That hasn't traditionally worked in the past. Throw in Kyle Long's injury history, and the OL could derail any of the skill position players picked up...just like it has over and over for the past 20 years or so.

Roquan. I didn't want an ILB in the first, and I think going a different direction would have benefited the team more overall, but I think he can do great things for the team. I'm predicting 100+ tackles rookie year.

We've done that for years on this board. The post draft analysis where we say what we would have done with the Bears picks. Maybe not in an official "This is the thread where we..." manner, but it's been done. It's just a matter of tracking back the details to see what the hit percentages are.

Very well said. This isn't the 1980s where only the teams hold information. If a fan wanted to, they could read and watch information about hundreds of players back to their high school days. Good comment on Jarron Gilbert, who I called a "pool jumping dickhead" a few years back. It would be a fun exercise to point to a move or selection each year that each poster believes was a bad move. Personally, I think the Saints WAY over-reached on what they gave up to get Marcus Davenport.

What I'm saying is, these guys are human as well. They have more resources at their disposal, but they are still prone to the same prejudices we have. Tice proved that when he got a boner after Jamarcus Webb chipped his tooth. And because of all that, they don't have a very high success rate. They're put on a pedestal because they chose a career path we probably all wish we had chosen years and years ago, but they started out just like everyone else. They were fans of football. It's entirely possible, in fact even probable given the failure rate, they are overwhelmed by the information and it muddies the waters. It clouds their vision. What's the saying? Can't see the forest for the trees?

I could easily maintain the friendship. Typing loses lots of the interaction, and at our core we are all devoted Bears fans. We follow the team because we love them. Those picking for the team do so because it's their current job, or even a stepping stone for their ideal job. We will always love the Bears and have the Bears best long term interest in mind.

I don’t think anyone on a message board knows more about coaching defense than Fangio, or most others that are in the NFL for that matter. But their presence in the NFL doesn’t make them experts at picking talent. They are experts, or are supposed to be experts, at coaching. The best ever (Polian) said even the NFL folks are 50/50 at best when drafting. Furthermore, Fangio has been here three years and only last year was the D good. He definitely knows who he wants for his system more, but that doesn’t mean the collective opinion here is necessarily any worse at picking talent. And until the Bears have sustained success, the “they’re in the NFL and know more”- line is BS. After all, that same line was used when we had the last 20+ years of coaches and horrible draft picks. It’s nearly unfathomable to think we could have done much worse over that stretch. It kills me how people will use that line while a guy is in chicago, then dog the dude and call him a moron when he gets fired. The guy can’t be an amazing talent evaluator and coach while in Chicago and simultaneously be incompetent when he gets canned. Last but not least, if someone had the time It would be easy to go back through this board’s history and see many, many times when we were right and the coaches/GM were wrong. Probably hundreds of times among all of us.

I definitely agree with this.

Until day three anyway. The Iggy pick doesn’t make sense at all.

Thus far the day three draft doesn’t make a lot of sense. An ILB who is not needed and a DT whose best fit is the back up NT?

I don’t understand the Iggy pick at all. No need for another ILB at this point. Especially since there is still a OLB, DE. OT, and CB need.

DaShawn Hand at 3-4DE. He’d instantly make our rush OLBs better.

Two OTs with upside, stud NT, and a freakish edge rusher. The Raiders Are having a great draft.

Miller is one of those guys who knows how to get open. Every break and cut for every route looks the same, so he separates from DBs.

I don’t think the Bears should mortgage more picks to do it, but if hey do I only want to see Lorenzo Carter or Arden Key.

1. Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis Grade: A+ The Bears land one of the best receivers in this draft. I think this kid will be a game-changer for Mitchell Trubisky. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-draft-round-2-draft-order-grades-for-picks-33-through-64-live-updates-on-day-2/

True. I was hoping Grasu would pan out and allow Whitehair to move left, but it didn’t work out. I’d still like an OT.

I’m not a fan of Pace trading up every year. If he were going to trade up, I would have hoped it was for edge rusher.

They traded a fourth this year and a second next year?

How do you know this so quickly?! It’s not even on nfl.com.

The knock on Daniels is that he has difficulty with bigger, stronger guys.

Daniels looks like a good zone blocking guy. He allows an auto-upgrade with Whitehair, and I love me some OL picks...but I still think better players were available. And a trade down made a ton of sense.

For the record, Q. Nelson was my guy. I would have been outraged if the Bears picked a QB or RB.

I REALLY, REALLY want Lorenzo Carter in the 2nd round now. The familiarity would make them immediately amplified.

If that happened, and the Bears passed, it was a mistake. #12 isn't that far down, and the two 2nd rounders (on top of the Bears' 2nd rounder) would have been massive. But if the same trade was there, then one spot earlier makes sense for the other team (obviously).