jason

HA! Good one.

You're missing something here. If the Pats had more plays, and more passing plays, then it stands to reason - if, that is, the Bears' OL is allowing a normal percentage of hits - that they'd have more hits and sacks on Brady. But they don't. If anything the Patriots, et. al. should have more pressures, hits, and sacks against their QBs than the Bears do.

Agreed. There should be a 1a and 1b. 1a. You can't blame a guy for driving a guy for driving a Pinto when all his parents will buy him is a Pinto. 1b. Audibles are a must in any system. I don't know where the "Martz doesn't allow audibles" thing came from, and I've only just recently heard about it. I don't believe anyone mentioned it all last year. But if it is true, then he's no better than Shoop in this regard with those dumbass, non-audible, check-downs. Cutler needs to be given a little freedom when he sees 10 in the box.

Absolutely wrong. Look at any predominant passing team for stats that refute your point. Even if you drop back every time, you shouldn't expect your QB to get hit every other play. And Cutler was pressured MORE than every other time. IDK what the acceptable percentage is for a predominant passing team, but it's certainly much lower than the beating Cutler has endured. For what it's worth, NFL.com has OL stats, and the Bears are dead last. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...;qualified=true Of the QBs who have thrown at least as many times as Culter, none are close to receiving the hits he has received. Sacks/Hits Brady: 3/7 Rivers: 4/8 Brees: 4/7 Newton: 8/13 Henne: 6/16 Rex: 5/16 Cutler: 11/18 And that doesn't even consider the number of times he's been pressured.

Thank you for saving me the time of looking that up. This "he didn't get sacked until the second half" talk is just BS nonsense. He took a beating well before then. The sacks are just a matter of statistics.

Cutler needs to change his underwear, because the Saints hit the shit out of him.

And I've been saying for longer that it's awfully difficult to really see what the Bears have at WR when the QB only gets to plant his backfoot about 5 times a game. I'm certainly not convinced the WRs are all-pro, but it's damn near impossible to know what they could do until the OL gives Cutler some time.

-Give up on the run too quickly? Absolutely. -Coaches to blame? Certainly some of it falls in their laps. -But if the QB drops back that many times, you expect a better percentage of success if you are an NFL Coach. Let's keep that in mind; these freakin guys are in the NFL and should be expected to play as such at least part of the time. The coaches shouldn't have to resort to peewee league offensive game plans of run right, run middle, run left. The number of times Cutler got pressured was far too close to the total number of times he dropped back.

Is it personal if you actually are an idiot? It doesn't take a genius to actually remember that you criticized Martz multiple times last week then played Monday Morning Quarterback and acted like you were his biggest fanboy when everyone else was giving him credit. Ripping him this week is not difficult since everyone has done it...all you had to do is follow your own playbook, fanboy.

And some of us have been saying so for nearly 5 years! But noooooo, even after Cutler nearly got murdered last year, the Bears barely addressed the biggest need, the naysayers still rode the coaching staff's nutsack, and Cutler has still taken a beating this year in two games.

They did it all last year, too. They never really mention how shitty the Bears' OL is...they just mention how great the other team is doing.

Is Webb the only guy in the NFL that got a negative score on the Wonderlic? My god is he retarded. Dude has absolutely no clue. Good job, Tice. Way to fight so hard for this guy to have a starting OL job this year.

Tillman is the best ball-stripper in NFL history. Period.

It's comical how bad Omiyale is. He's so bad he's infecting the rest of the OL with False Startitis.

So, it appears that the options are: A] Get Cutler drilled if he drops back more than 3-steps B] Throw a quick slant that gets a Bears' WR killed Remind me again what the Bears can do when the OL doesn't open holes for the running attack and can't block in a passing situation for more than a 3-step drop? As we have seen, call a screen enough times and that will get the RB killed.

Dude. You're an idiot. Go back to last week's game thread. Read it. If you don't, you're both a liar and lazy. I called out Martz. So did you. But I pointed out more positives than you did, and you pointed out more negatives than I did. And when you got called on something (i.e. when you were wrong about blocking responsibilities), you refused to go back and admit your error. I actually did look at the recording twice and confirmed what I saw. But you ran away from it, and then later tried to act like you thought Martz had a good game (because everyone else was saying so). If I recall correctly, you said Martz was being "clowned." You were wrong last week. If you had said so this week, you might be right. Speaking of this week, I've already mentioned more than once that there needs to be more running. The only thing hilarious is the fact that you have some sort of game viewing practice that doesn't allow you to see the obvious.

Gotcha. It does stand to reason that someone has to be open, but every time Cutler is pressured and gets rid of the ball, it's to a guy who has someone draped all over him. I wonder if Cutler is simply not reading the opening or if he isn't getting enough time to read the opening?

Are you at the game? Because the view I have on TV doesn't show guys wide open. It looks like the WRs are covered and Cutler is under pressure.

Whatever. You're delusional. This is only game two and you have probably already called out Martz at least ten times, if not more. I ripped Martz early last week and you ripped him at least three times during the game thread. You can't straddle both sides of the fence, and then act like you were high-fiving Martz the entire game.

Johnny Knox = Still quitting on routes. One bad, one good. Unfortunately, the bad sets up perfect INT opportunities for the D. BTW - Third QTR with a 10 point deficit is not the time to totally abandon the run, regardless how horrible the blocks are.

There is no surprise what ANY defense is going to do against the Bears!! You have to be dense not to realize this. They're going to blitz, send extra guys, pressure, drill Cutler. That is the plan for every freaking team in the NFL when they play the Bears. And nothing on O can be done, other than running (which I want more of), if the blocking is not there or the WRs are getting open. The entire first half, other than a few plays, was Cutler being pressured and/or Cutler utilizing mobility to stretch out a play while waiting for a WR to get a step. Believe what you want about the Turner/Martz thing. You rip Martz every week, multiple times per week, and multiple times per game thread. The only reason you'll change at this point is because I've called you on it. I didn't rip Turner that often, regardless of how often I ripped him.

Draw play = Called. Worked fairly well. Screen play = Tried to call, but the D pressured Cutler and blew up the blocking set up for the screen. Quick slant = Got Bennett injured. I agree he should change things up, particularly there should be more running in situations like this. But to pretend like he can do much about how shitty the WRs and OL is playing is just nonsense.

You're right. The difference in this game is one mental mistake by the Bears' secondary. Otherwise it's pretty even and the Bears probably have the overall edge.

I don't love him nearly as much as you hate him. You rail on the dude when it's VERY apparent that there isn't a thing he could do to help the offense. At a certain point you have to realize that A] There isn't a single WR on the team getting open, and B] The OL isn't performing very well since Cutler has been under pressure the entire game. And when the OL DOES hold up, which isn't often, see A. The big difference between Martz and Turner, other than the disparity with which I ripped him and you rip Martz (I didn't rip him nearly as much as you rip Martz) is that Martz puts in plays that would confuse and surprise the opponents' defense if the Bears' players held up their end of the bargain, while Turner put in plays that surprised absolutely no one, could be called pre-snap by the average fan, and demanded perfect execution from the offense in order for success. The former can succeed when the Bears' O doesn't perform perfectly because there may be defensive confusion; the latter can't.

Things I like about the D this game: -Stuffing the Saints in the Red Zone Things I don't like about the D this game: -The performance by Brees is starting to remind me of what Manning did in the Super Bowl.