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Everything posted by jason
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I've thought a lot about this, and I've flipped around on both sides. Ultimately, however, it comes to certainty. Right now, Howard is a certainty. He's been a stud on a garbage offense. He may not perfectly fit into Nagy's system, but his status as a certainty is undeniable. Similarly, Landry to be a certainty. Conversely, he's a slot WR. He'll never be the #1 who scares opposing defenses. It's pretty safe to assume he'll fit into Nagy's offense, but it's not 100%. Then there is the additional worry that he'll want a massive contract, one in the top-ten of WRs. He is not worthy of a top-ten contract. Ultimately, Howard is better at RB than Landry is at WR, but mostly because Landry is a slot. The Bears shouldn't fill a hole by creating a hole at RB. In a draft that is deep at RB and super-deep at WR, it doesn't make a ton of sense to create a hole at RB where one is not needed. It's smarter to just draft a WR. Ideally, trade down and draft two.
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If the Bears traded down and aquired a few more picks, I’d say early third would be a steal. The red flag is there, but the tape doesn’t lie.
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The bolded is a good point. Assuming, however, Barkley is gone to Indy (makes complete sense)... Barkley + QB --or-- QB + Chubb/Nelson If I were Cleveland, I still think Barkley + QB makes a bigger splash and reinvigorates the fanbase.
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Wow. That's a bit heavy handed in my opinion. Barry Sanders, Herschel Walker, and Ricky Williams were easily better prospects. Adrian Peterson was arguably a better prospect.
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Cleveland would be smarter to go Saquon Barkley first. There will be a chance to get a star QB at #4 no matter what happens, but Barkley is not guaranteed. CLE- Barkley NYG- Rosen IND- Chubb CLE- Darnold DEN- Nelson NYJ- Mayfield TB- Fitzpatrick CHI- Edmunds
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It'd be different if they were good at their jobs. The front office personnel for the Bears have been ridiculously bad for quite some time. Angelo knew money at least. Otherwise, the Bears have been one of the worst two or three drafting teams in the NFL. I saw a chart last year or the year before that they had the lowest percentage of home grown talent in the NFL. Pace has been hit or miss drafting, but at least I like his style. He's not playing it safe by any means.
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:D :D In that case, I change my opinion. He looks like a 3rd rounder with crazy promise to me, but now that I know Mel Tucker held him back, I'm fine with him in the late first.
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The Bears would be crazy not to take that trade.
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Lorenzo Carter as a second rounder would be more pallatable. I still don’t think he’s got the burst required, but maybe his athleticism can make up for it. If he does produce crazy numbers at the combine, then i question his output in games.
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Agree. It's BS.
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Good point! That's awesome. I hadn't even considered the trade up for an OG. Seems unlikely, but opening up a glaring hole at OG certainly gives the outward appearance that the Bears may be selecting an OG. With the QB fervor and now the "will they draft an OG at 8?"-question, I'll be more disappointed than ever if the Bears don't trade down. This is the perfect situation and the perfect draft for it.
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How many years in a row has someone said "let's see what their plan is before complaining," only to see the plan unfold and produce nothing? I'd say Bears fans have a right to question just about every personnel and coaching move until the front office proves us wrong. They've produced horribly.
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Trade down with Buffalo to 21 & 22 mandatory. ALABAMA 1. Calvin Ridley, WR 1. Rashaan Evans, ILB 2. Anthony Averett, CB 4. Da'Shawn Hand, 3-4DE 4. Tony Brown, CB 5. Robert Foster, WR 6. Bradley Bozeman, C, Alabama 7. Shaun Dion Hamilton, ILB OHIO STATE 1. Denzel Ward, CB 1. Billy Price, C 2. Jamarco Jones, OT 4. Sam Hubbard, DE 4. Jerome Baker, OLB 5. Tyquan Lewis, Edge 6. Chris Worley, ILB 7. JT Barrett, QB Neither are perfect, but I actually would be pretty happy with either draft.
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The release of Sitton feels a lot like when they let go of Marshall. It created an unnecessary void on the team that has not been replaced since. Yeah, yeah, I know Marshall was a cancer, and Sitton was not, but if anything that's another reason to keep him around. All it did was create a hole on a portion of the team that had some ability to perform above average. Now, instead of replacing a below average LT and horrible RT, the Bears need to add LG to the mix. Add that to the need for WR, OLB, DE, ILB, and CB at the very least. The problem, of course, is the Bears only have seven picks, and need more than 7 positions. Not to mention depth.
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Based on the players in 2016, Floyd looks like a good pick. But I don't think the trade was necessary. Of course, we'll never know. But the Bears are a team that needs players, and 4th rounders are apparently Pace's wheelhouse. Moving up two spots for a guy who would probably have been there at the original position probably wasn't the best trade. Then again, that's Pace's M.O. He sees the guy he wants, and makes a move for that player when he fears there is even a remote chance of losing that player. He did it with Trubisky too. I just see this year, more than maybe ever, a situation where multiple players fit, and trading down works so much. For instance, WRs are crazy deep, and I've love to get two promising rookies this year.
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Hell no. The franchise tag requires more money than Fuller and his "only perform during a contract year" is worth.
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The craziest part of it is that Cleveland could literally have a draft like this!!
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A fun what if game. Their draft position is ridiculous this year. What would you do with their two first rounders and three second rounders? No trade downs allowed. It's odd because we have Trubisky, which eliminates QB. 1.1 - Quenton Nelson, OG, ND - Best pick that fits that early. 1.4 - Bradley Chubb, DE/OLB, NCST - Whichever position, there needs to be a Floyd counterpart. 2.33 - Brown/Williams/McGlinchey, OT - Whichever slips to the first pick of the second round. 2.35 - Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU - Who Kevin White should have been. 2.64 - Christian Kirk, WR, TXA&M - Let's solve this WR issue right TF now by doubling up with a guy nicknamed Baby Beckham. With that approach the future of the offense should be set.
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Honestly, I think the strength of this draft is somewhere near the end of the first through the mid 2nd. There are a ton of guys there who could easily be first rounders. Like you said, there are only a few blue chippers. That means a lot of variation for the next 30-40 or so picks. A team could have two for one if they were shrewd with trade downs.
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That's all me transposing. I don't know why, but I want to make him an Edwards. Kind of like when everyone kept referring to your new draft pick as Alshon Jeffries, or something similar.
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It's cool. I just couldn't figure out why you thought I was proposing such a thing. When I replied to that trade I didn't even realize the extra third. I was just immediately enamored with the draft. If I were Buffalo, I'd do exactly what you're suggesting. And then I'd supplement with a mid/late round QB.
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This draft looks like someone here put together the last few week's of posts. https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/02/07/2...nd-projections/ 1. Tremaine Edwards, OLB, VT 2. Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU 4. Anthony Averett, CB, BAMA 4. Deontay Burnett, WR, USC 5. Brandon Parker, OT, NCA&T 6. David Bellamy, Edge, UGA 7. BJ Hill, DL, NCST
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What the heck are you talking about? I never said the Bears would trade anything like that. In any variation. I just said I would like the trade down draft results another posted. You said, "No both 1sts and a 3rd I don't think they would do that." That pretty much implies the other team giving the Bears three picks. Hence my question. Try scrolling up next time before getting your panties in a twist.
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Well, he played 11 games as a rookie. I thought he only had concussion issues. If he could get past that, I would be all for such a move. But if he literally doesn't want to play ILB, then it's hard to believe he'll be impactful when he returns.