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Everything posted by jason
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Hell, I'm an Alabama guy and I don't think Ridley deserves the #8. Furthermore, I'm not even a pure BPA fan and I still go BPA over Ridley at #8.
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I'm still bitter the Bears didn't figure out a way to get Ryan Switzer. He would have been perfect with his college QB Trubisky. Also, I HAAAAAAAATE picking a TE that early. HATE. Either Shaheen is the guy or he's not. The second TE spot can be filled by a random FA.
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Assuming Key is really an OLB in this draft, I think I like it a lot. However, if I had my way, either the 5th or 6th round pick would be a true 3-4 DE, because no matter how much promise has been shown by other players, Mitch Unrein still started last year. And he sucks. Having said that, Deontay Burnett in the 5th would be difficult to ignore. His show a great amount of body control, ability to get open, and superb hands. I think he'll end up being a pretty damn good slot.
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Long story short, that move means Cousins is going to a QB-starved team. Until the trade, it was uncertain what would happen. They could still have tagged him, or they could have worked out a deal. But now Alex Smith is the QB in DC, and Cousins is going to be a "franchise" QB available in free agency. That takes at least one QB needy team out of trade possibilities.
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I understand this line of thought. There is a definite spectrum from true BPA to position-based drafting. For instance, Saquon Barkley might be the best player in the draft, but if he fell to the Bears it would be stupid to draft him. Very stupid, and it's not up for debate. That's the type of BPA that might get a transcendent player and a perpetually bad-to-mediocre franchise. There needs to be a mix. The other part to my comment is the fact that I don't value ILBs in a 3-4 base that much. In large part, if the OLBs are good, and the NT is sturdy, the ILBs are hole-pluggers. Get two solid guys who are tackling machines, and they work out well in a 3-4. Sure, it's nice to have a superstar there, but it's not essential in my opinion. The big bucks need to be spent on OLB and NT up front if the 3-4 is to succeed.
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That draft would make me throw up at first. I'd absolutely despise an ILB at #8. That would be horrible. But then nabbing Davenport later, and Eq in the fourth, would be ridiculous. Neither pick, by the way, is realistic from what I've seen. DJ Chark would be a crazy pickup in the 5th, but I don't think he'll last that long either. The lack of OT would make me throw up again when the draft ends.
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Playing the FA game is so much harder than the draft game because it comes down to money, and figuring out which guys we'd want who would want to come to Chicago. It's also a matter of pretending the Bears can get the #1 guy at any position, which hasn't really happened much in Chicago. In the draft they don't really have a choice. And that doesn't even get into the disagreement already apparent in this thread. Having said that, I'd do the following with regard to the WRs: 1. White is obviously staying. That's one. There is no harm in hoping THIS is the year he finally gets to play. 2. Go hard after Jordan Matthews. He won't break the bank and he's good. 2014-2015 looked great for a 1st & 2nd year, then Philly pushed him aside. 2017 in Buffalo is just a bad Buffalo offense, a bum knee, and them pushing Zay Jones forward. Two. 3. Re-sign Kendall Wright. He has the best resume and chance to succeed with the right situation. Three. 4. Re-sign the cheapest of Inman or Bellamy. I'd rather have Inman, but if he pushes too hard he can pound sand. Four. 5. Draft a rookie WR in the first few rounds. That's five guys on the roster that you should move forward with. If there are significant injuries, it's almost a lost cause anyway. Therefore, the rest are camp bodies like Tanner Gentry and some random UDFA (or late rounder assuming a trade down for more picks).
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I saw that too, but I don't think Goldman has the lateral ability for the 3-4DE position. He's amazing for his size, but he's not fast enough to stretch a play out. If that did happen, however, teams can forget about running between the tackles against the Bears. It's kind of like when the Bears had Washington and Traylor, and everyone knew the plays would be coming outside the tackles since inside was impossible.
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That would almost be as bad as a QB. I could pass on Barkley in a heartbeat. He may end up being great, but it's absolutely one of the lowest needs for the team.
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The talent available definitely skews what you'd like to do in the first round. So if we can't factor in trades - because possibilities are endless - then factor in who you'd want at #8 based upon talent available. Nothing was ever said about that. If anyone believes the Bears should go NT first because the talent at the other positions of need are horrible for the #8 spot, then so be it.
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Noted. It's hard enough to get a general consensus for the draft picks. Doing so for free agency, which then gets into money, years, salary cap implications, dead cap considerations, cuts to make room for FAs, etc., and it's an impossible endeavor. Because you can't think about FA unless you consider the money as well. I'll mark you down as not participating.
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Dude, don't participate if you don't want to. The Bears could easily do any of the following: 1) Two FA OTs (Solder & Robinson) and focus on OLB & WR in the draft 2) One FA OT (Solder) and one FA WR (Landry) and focus on OLB & CB in the draft 3) One FA WR (Landry) and one FA CB (Trumaine Johnson) and focus on OT in the draft 4) One FA CB (Trumaine) and one FA OLB/DE (Ezekiel Ansah), and focus on WR in the draft There are countless possibilities. We can't know what they will do, or if they'll snag a #1 guy. Has Pace's M.O. been to get the #1 FA? Nope. So that make the possibilities much more diverse than you're pretending. Sure, in a perfect world you might be right. The Bears go out and grab the top FA at the thinnest position, then draft accordingly. Problem is, if there is a guy they love in the draft at that position then the player gets ignored. Last but not least, there are several OGs available in FA this year.
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This is something we've done multiple years in a row. Essentially the same way. It's about as close as we can get to a compromise on the board. I'm not upset about anything. I'm just telling everyone it's impossible to try to integrate everyone's wish list, FA thoughts, trade concepts, and personal mocks. Where did I say something was realistic? If anything, I'm saying everything is realistic at this point.
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The point is, we don’t know what they’ll do in FA. Could be two OTs. Or a CB and OLB. That’s why we are projecting this without and trades, and new mocks, or any trade downs within the draft. Trying to track all the variations is impossible.
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We will do a second version of this bad boy after free agency. Right now, however, none of the above is really applicable. This is about where the team stands right now. As for DE, they better believe it. If not, they're not as smart as they think they are. Neither Bullard nor RHH could beat out Mitch freaking Unrein, who pretty much sucks. He's probably the weakest link on the entire defense, or close to it.
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First of all, here's the link to the 2017 version. 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 2.0 1. Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama - Still a need 2. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech - Rookie QB acquired in Trubisky. Promising future. 3. Budda Baker, S, Washington - This pick was lost, but Eddie Jackson was selected. Promising future. 4. Chad Wheeler, OT, USC - Still a need 4. Kevin King, CB, Washington - Still a need 5. Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA - Still a need 7. Pharaoh Brown, TE, Oregon - This pick was lot, but Shaheen may be the answer. Unknown future. OT, CB, and DE were essentially ignored, and it showed in 2017. OT - Massie sucked, and Leno was barely average. Trubisky and the offense suffered as a result. CB - Prince was a bust, and only Kyle Fuller had the stats to prove he played an entire season. DE - Mitch Unrein had a career year with 1.5 sacks, which is not a typo. First things first, if you'd like to participate, do so by stating which of the following five positions you feel is the biggest need. That will obviously be the driving point to this entire endeavor. We ultimately disagreed on the QB thing last year, maybe this year will be different. Wide Receiver Offensive Tackle Defensive End Outside Linebacker Cornerback Also, if there is a position other than the 5 above you think the Bears need, add that. Keep in mind the Bears have the following picks in 2018: 1,2,4,4,5,6,7. Just like last year, here are the rules: -Please don't post your own mock. I'm going to scour this board over the last few weeks/months to write down comments/likes/dislikes/etc. to get a starting off point. -There are no trades or FA considerations. -I'll post the mock based on the aforementioned comments. -Comment on what you like or dislike from the mock, and I'll update your restrictions as well as the draft.
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Damn, that Desmond Harrison dude holds a lot. He’s got bad technique and is real handsy. He grabs outside and rotates defenders, which is a sure sign of a hold. He should be dominating - like he does at the end of most plays - by driving with his legs.
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Brandon Parker, OT, NC A&T - Tarik Cohen's running mate. Good hands, pretty fast feet.Jaleel Scott, WR, NMSt. - Crazy size and ups. Has flashes of Randy Moss.
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That's an interesting approach, and it's one I've mentioned before in jest. I love OLinemen, and honestly believe they are the key to offensive success. But I'm also not a fan of creating a hole only to fill it, so it's not my ideal situation. I think letting Sitton go would be a mistake.
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Average PPG for Oregon while he was the coach: 45 (Mariota) 45 (Mariota) 43 (Vernon Adams) 35 (Herbert/Prukop) He had 16 losses in four years at Oregon, eight of them in the final year. Imagine that. Get shitty QBs and things don't work out well as when you had a Heisman QB candidate. I'm actually shocked he got fired considering his performance the previous three years. Oregon didn't even give him a shot. Hell, two of the four losses in 2015 were a direct result of Vernon Adams getting hurt. Nonetheless, his defense gave up 44 PPG in those 16 losses. They scored 28 PPG, which is not bad. It's just hard to win when your defense gives up 6+ TDs a game.
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Completely agree. If I were someone coming in to take over the putrid Browns, I'd fire everyone without much thought. Kinda like Walking Tall. The fact that he made it through that much change speaks volumes.
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A big key here is the Cardinals run a 3-4. I do not want a DC who is going to run a 4-3. The Bears have worked for a few years to get to this point, and changing back would be a mess.
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This is amazing news for multiple reasons. 1. He's a stud. 2. He was in charge of the OL the only time it was really good in the last 20 years. 3. He knows better than anyone where McGlinchey should be slotted in the draft. Excellent hire for the Bears. EDIT: Just being silly, and I know it's impossible, but how I would love to see the Bears get Quenton Nelson and Mike McGlinchey. Whoa.
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Just read the twitter comments and that should tell us everything. The ratings are a joke. Their grading scale is a joke. PFF is a joke.
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We'll remember this when he comes out in a few years and people start saying, "The Bears should draft him as a developmental QB!" or some other such nonsense. He's Kordell Hurts. Period.