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Then, please pass the drugs you're taking.
Dude, the key word is CAN. I didn't say they WOULD be.
I think the RBs can do well, but the OL, QB, and coach will hinder success for yet another year.
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Actually, my problem with the entire idea that is being pushed in this thread is that we suddenly have a good back in Forte. We simply don't know that. He could be the next Salaam, Enis, or Benson. It's always nice to bring guys in, but until the guys we have are given a chance to excel, we will never know what we have...and we'll always be searching.
If Forte doesn't have it, then AP and Wolfe should get the ball more. If they don't have it, THEN the Bears should search out other options. If the Bears go get veteran leadership (i.e. Alexander or Jones), then that is basically saying that AP and Wolfe are nearly pointless...and given some of the things we've seen each do - AP more than Wolfe, obviously - it's just impossible to say.
I am a bit confused in your argument. On one hand, you seem to say you have an issue w/ the "statement" forte is a good back, as we just do not know. I agree w/ you on this. On the other hand, it seems like you just want to live and die w/ what we have, rather than bring in competition. Is this accurate.
Yes. It's accurate. And the reason why is that I think the RBs all have talent, and the potential to excel, but they need a good OL, a competent offense, a QB who can hold onto the ball, and OC who is not retarded. Until some of that happens, the Bears don't know who they have at RB, and adding a guy is nearly pointless because a good player could easily fail in this system with these players.
For me, if you took AP out of the equation, I think I might agree. Forte has not had his chance, and I would agree Wolfe has not either. AP though? He has been on the team what, 6 years. In that time, he did little to make coaches think he was a starter. He has had some good runs, and even some good games, but is simply not a starter. Go through the history of the NFL and try to find a RB that broke out his 7th season. It just doesn't happen.To me, AP is a solid #3/special teams. But there lies the rub. Few believe Wolfe should be our #2. IMHO, that is the issue for most. While everyone likes AP, most still feel he is more a #2 than a #3, but we have Wolfe, who is viewed as a #3. That is the whole issue IMHO. Fans simply want an upgrade at #2. A RB that can compete w/ Forte, make him earn the job, and be a solid replacement if needed.
I'm not saying I really know how good AP is, but I don't really think the coaches the Bears have had know either. As we have all learned, there is a difference between a practice player and a game player, and it's pretty painfully obvious that the coaches have just given the position to Rex (and others) based upon practice. When AP has been in with a somewhat competent offense, he's done fairly well. He's not a stud, but he's a solid pro who could easily be a #2 IMHO, if not for the fact that the Bears have had a garbage offense for the better part of the last two decades.
And, yes, I think Wolfe has the potential to be more than just about anyone on this board is saying. I hear the words that call him a clown, a midget, a pure third down back, a waste, garbage...and the guy hasn't been given the shot. I don't see how anyone can relegate him or downplay him when he hasn't been given a chance. I'm sure Barry Sanders would have received the same scorn from this board until he started killing the opponent...and even then I'm sure some of it would have continued. What's to lose with letting Wolfe get carries and seeing, maybe, just maybe, if JA picked up the next Dunn? The chance seems to have worked out for every other team that's taken a chance on the guy. Ask Ohio State if he's a third down back.First, your better off sticking w/ Dunn as your example. I have never liked when people try to use some of the greatest players in history as an example. Those players are often an exception, rather than the rule. Surely, you are not going to say Wolfe has Payton or Sanders skills. Because unless you think he has that level of skill, to use the geatest ever as exapmles doesn't work.
I admit, I have pre-draft bias. Before the draft, I read quite a lot about him. He was touted by a couple local sports writers I respect. But he was considered a 2nd day pick, 3rd down back, special teams player. Even those who were touting him and among his biggest supporters did not view him as a 1st day pick w/ the potential to be an every down starter. Further, I still do not believe our own personnel people thought that of him. I still believe he was drafted w/ the belief Benson would be our franchise tailback, and Wolfe could be a solid change of pace, 3rd down opion. Further, I think Wolfe was drafted right after the SB, when we watch Indy squib kick to avoid Hester. I think he was drafted to be the "up" returner, but per coaches, he didn't look great in practices in that role, so it didn't happen. I just do not believe our own scouts ever even envisioned Wolfe being a starter.
I admit that the Dunn comparison is better, but the Sanders one is virtually the same. It's a guy perceived to be too small, told nearly his entire life that he can't do it, and continually proving people wrong. Is Wolfe the next Barry Sanders? I highly doubt it. However, nobody really knows if he'll blow up if given the chance.
If what you say is accurate, then we should consider our scouts incompetent, and those who make draft decisions incompetent. In other words, the scouts, JA, and the coaches basically picked a guy to do a single thing as the up-man, with the possibility of minimal carries, and when it didn't work out, they felt the pick was a waste. Personally, I don't think that is the case. I think that he should be considered a viable option at RB. Furthermore, if he is to be used as an up-man on ST, which I think is a GREAT IDEA, then the coaches need to figure out a way to help him out and prepare him for the role. I have little faith in any of the coaches, and I see no reason why he can't do well if given the chance...I suspect that they saw him do one or two things poorly, and immediately made a rushed decision - something that has happened numerous times over the past decade.
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odd that everyone on this board seems to love Tom Waddle, Bobby Engram, and Mike Hass (all three perceived to have been given the short straw on talent, but the long straws on heart and effort), but seem so down on Wolfe.
Not sure I agree w/ the analogy. I am not sure I would agree the WRs you mentioned were short on talent. They simply lacked speed. Great route running, great hands and knowledge are as much a talent as speed.
Questions of Wolfe have more to do w/ his size rather than talent. He is a talented player, but does he have the size?
IMHO, the problem is more AP than Wolfe. I think most fans have no issue w/ Wolfe as a 3rd down back style player. The problem is more about numbers and AP.
Fans want a greater level of competition for Forte. AP does not offer that. Nor does Wolfe. If we bring in a RB to provide competition, and maybe an upgrade in case Forte is injured, or simply doesn't live up to the hype, then we have 4 RBs on the roster. Few expect the staff to dump AP, do as much as anything to his special teams play, which means Wolfe would be on the chopping block.
IMHO, if we had a #2 RB that was simply put, a better option at RB, then I think there would be more love for Wolfe.
The real issue/thing is, you view Wolfe as a potential Dunn like every down back, and many others simply view him as a nice 3rd down, change of pace back.
Actually, my problem with the entire idea that is being pushed in this thread is that we suddenly have a good back in Forte. We simply don't know that. He could be the next Salaam, Enis, or Benson. It's always nice to bring guys in, but until the guys we have are given a chance to excel, we will never know what we have...and we'll always be searching.
If Forte doesn't have it, then AP and Wolfe should get the ball more. If they don't have it, THEN the Bears should search out other options. If the Bears go get veteran leadership (i.e. Alexander or Jones), then that is basically saying that AP and Wolfe are nearly pointless...and given some of the things we've seen each do - AP more than Wolfe, obviously - it's just impossible to say.
And, yes, I think Wolfe has the potential to be more than just about anyone on this board is saying. I hear the words that call him a clown, a midget, a pure third down back, a waste, garbage...and the guy hasn't been given the shot. I don't see how anyone can relegate him or downplay him when he hasn't been given a chance. I'm sure Barry Sanders would have received the same scorn from this board until he started killing the opponent...and even then I'm sure some of it would have continued. What's to lose with letting Wolfe get carries and seeing, maybe, just maybe, if JA picked up the next Dunn? The chance seems to have worked out for every other team that's taken a chance on the guy. Ask Ohio State if he's a third down back.
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A few quick thoughts:
Ron Dayne!? Really? He sucks.
Kevin Jones? Best option out there, but not exactly exciting.
I think the Bears can be just fine with the RBs they have.
Forte is already better than Benson, who showed more problems, lack of common sense, and injuries during his time here than he did talent. On top of that, AP is a servicable backup in the NFL. And, as far as Wolfe goes, I think he's capable of greatness in many ways. He won't be an every down back, but I think the guy is one of those players who always gets counted out, and always steps up to do well.
Odd that everyone on this board seems to love Tom Waddle, Bobby Engram, and Mike Hass (all three perceived to have been given the short straw on talent, but the long straws on heart and effort), but seem so down on Wolfe.
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I guess I dont see any similarities. comparing a DTV installer to a professional football player.....
to make that argument even remotely valid, this fantasy person would have to make more than the CEO of DTV. that's pretty much what's happening.
I don't care what profession you apply to it, but the comparison is valid.
Entry level guys are getting paid more than guys who are very productive and have years of experience. That doesn't happen in any other industry, any other job, and other situation of which I know. It's crazy.
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Peanut was on the SCORE tonight at 8 pm. Some highlights:
- Had a Flag Football challenge for charity last week. Evidentally, Rod Wilson was a all american QB in high school and tore it up on the field.
- Was very happy with his play last yr. Felt he dropped some easy picks, however, and this kept him from making the pro-bowl.
- Felt that rookie salaries may be unfair in that they get money based on their play in college. I hope the NFLPA is open to addressing this during the next contract negotiations.
Overall, a very good interview. One final note. He was in his car with his daughter and she kept saying she was hungry - evidentally they were on their way to dinner. It was funny listening to him interact with her. Being a daddy definately changes you.
Peace
I think the part in bold is just stupid. That's like someone working as a DirecTV installer, doing really well, getting noticed, getting a promotion to a mid-level manager, and getting a raise that makes them higher paid than the most senior programmer/manager/salesperson in the company.
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Line of reasoning? Heres a reason, how bout Adrian Peterson's 3.4 ypc? Cedric's was the exact same, yeah thats definitely outplaying the man that just got canned..
Not to mention I remember several games where Cedric looked to be starting to run better and better but Dingleshit Turner stopped giving him the ball which made his production worse than it should have been. The one + on AP was his pass catching ability, that is it, he's not a starter, he's a backup through and through.Why should we expect anything from Wolfe? Did he do anything last year that would lead you to believe he will make an impact next season? There was a reason Garrett didn't get in alot of the plays last season, one is, he's a rookie, and the other is he sucks running between the tackles. And Garrett Wolfe is a special teams player because Garrett Wolfe played special teams last season
The point you have failed to see is that we all got to see Benson. We all got to see Peterson. We never got to see what Wolfe could do.
I think it's comical that in one breath you basically call the OC an idiot, and then in the second paragraph never mention it. Could it be that Wolfe didn't play because Turner is stupid like you said in the first paragraph? Aside from running in between the tackles against one of the best run defenses in the NFL, did we really see nearly enough to ascertain Wolfe's abilities to go between the tackles? Clearly the question is rhetorical, because we didn't see it. Last but not least, you asked why we should expect anything from Wolfe...and you also mentioned the other RB's inadequacies. Well, I'd say the two are related. The reason we could and should expect something from Wolfe is that he's a completely different type of RB than the other two. He's a guy who can do things that the other two can't. If Turner is as bad as you say he is, and the other two RBs were as pathetic as their statistics indicate, then maybe, just maybe, Wolfe should have seen more time on the field, especially towards the end of the year.
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We have no threats at reciever and this guy is dominant and im sure wants out of arizona. Not sure if his situation would be better here but hed automatically be the best player on our offense...
No.
1. They won't trade him.
2. The Bears will have to give up too much to get him.
3. The Bears don't really know what they have at WR because of the OL & QB situation.
Until the Bears find out whether or not their WRs are good, whether they can run good routes, separate from DBs, make tough catches, and be generally productive, it's almost pointless to get another high-priced WR who will inevitably be disappointing (see: MuhMuh).
And none of this will happen as long as the QB is horribly inconsistent. And the QB will be horribly inconsistent until the OL is shored up. So, basically, it's what I said pre-draft...
The Bears need OL, OL, and more OL until the OL protects the QB and opens up holes for the RBs.
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I really hope he gets picked up by anyone but Denver. If this kid had a team around him that could block for $H!+ he would be able to put up some really good numbers.
I am personally quite upset with the decision to kick him after these questionable run ins with the "law"
Nfo made me feel a little better with his post about Ced but unless we get a healthy Kevin Jones (who would need to learn the offense still) I am still very scared about our RB depth.
That and the article about Ced never wanting to be here tempers my anger at this (IMO) hurried and shortsighted decision on Angelo's part.
I can understand everyone likes to blame the RB for the failures to run the ball but you all should know by now, using denver's example, that 90% of it is all about the blockers. So if Ced is lucky enough to go somewhere that can block at all, many of you will be.. well you know what you will be.
I can also understand how so many of you hate the dude so much, specially with this new rumor that he cried cause he was upset about being drafted by Chicago, and the fact that you listen to local sports radio with all the bashing I suspect goes on there. I myself can't help but identify with the misunderstood as I often find myself in thier number. It seems, all too often, that if you don't fit the standard mold that everyone is comfortable with, it matters little what you actually mean or do. If it can be misconstrued or twisted against you certain people will do it. So in that sense I am happy for Ced to be getting out of Chicago, where some of you can be hellish toward underachievers! But in the sense of my team, I hope the loss of talent is offset by some MUCH Improved chemistry! (which IMO was a huge element to our success in our 2001 year)
Anyway, for the record, since I rarely post anymore (I miss the old format very much) The offensive success is almost entirely dependant on the Offensive Line for its success this year (every year). So banter as much as you like about Grossman and Forte and the recievers but NONE of them can do ANYTHING without some much improved blocking. IMHO
One more time cause I know how some of you are
I am OK with Ced getting fired if it makes us truely a better, more close knit team with character and unity or whatever. But it was still an overreaction that I think will be regretted sooner rather than later. p.p.s missed some of you. but not all! LOL I still won't be able to post much but I found a little time today
Nice try Mrs. Benson. We know you went to the old board, stole someone's log in, and then decided to post.
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It's not...worry not.
No joke. I honestly have a problem with anyone who honestly attempts to put Emmitt Smith in the top 5 RBs ever.
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Sayers may be right but that guy needs to stop talking for a while. A little while ago he proclaimed himself the best back ever.
I don't see what's so crazy about that. It's a very arguable point. If not for injury, he could easily be regarded with the others in the discussion. On pure talent alone, and pure production in a shortened career, he's easily in the top back discussion.
Hell, I'd say Bo Jackson was one of the best RBs ever, better than friggin Emmitt Smith that's for sure...but he didn't stick around because of injuries.
I guess it depends on whether one includes luck, health, and teammates in the discussion of best RB ever. If so, Sayers and Jackson are not in the top 5...if not, the prospect of including them is not that big of a stretch.
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I definitely see the comparison but the motives are so different. Donaghey is doing it to help him legally. Hes looking at time in federal prison and him giving up other people will help his cause but it also might be a reason for him to embellish to make it seem like hes only a pawn in the grand scheme of things so maybe he can share the blame with others.
Canseco did it strictly for money. He wasnt in jeopardy of getting in trouble. So even though he benefited financially from it, it also made him hated by a lot of people.
If I'm not mistaken, Canseco was facing legal problems as well, and he gave up information to alleviate pressure just like Donaghey. I believe he had something close to illegally possessing a firearm and some sort of probation violation. And, on top of that (and probably the biggest motivator), Canseco has done what he has done because he wants to get back at the leauge and the game that he feels has screwed him over. He feels he was pushed out of baseball in some sort of collusion (I agree to a certain extent), and he's angry about it.
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It was a fun conspiracy theory back in the day. As I recall, it went deeper than simply some players liking TJ over Benson. As the story went, TJ was represented by Rosenarce, as were numerous other players on the defense. Briggs in particular, another Rosenarce client, was pretty tight w/ TJ. Briggs, a leader on the defense, worked the locker room against Benson. And defensive players went after Benson in practices.
Not saying all that is true, just how I recall the story from back in the day.
Personally, I am not sure the players were specifically trying to injur Benson, but at the same time, I think it is believable the defense liked TJ and not Benson, and thus gave Benson extra pop in practice. That isn't to say they were specically trying to hurt him or ruin his career, so much as to simply hit him harder and punish him in a way. If he can take it, and even give back, Benson would have had the opportunity to gain respect. By crying about it, he lost respect, and the lightly painted target on his jersey was emboldened.
That's precisely how I remember it.
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It doesn't matter what his salary is. He'll get picked up.
The fact that his salary is low will only add to it.
As it has already been said, guys who get picked in the top 5 get extra chances regardless of how bad they are off the field.
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I totally buy the Canseco comparison, because it's entirely possible he's telling the truth, and because it's virtually impossible to trust him.
But 2 points. First, if you watched the infamous Lakers/Sacto game 6, did you not think that the fix was in?
And second, if you were a crooked ref trying to make up a story to cover your tail, and you had watched that game 6, wouldn't you pick that game to point to as one that had been fixed because it was such a one sided game with the officiating, whether or not you knew anything about it?
Not only did I watch that game, I was on the phone with a friend of mine the entire game. I KNOW that game was fixed, and nobody can convince me otherwise. Whether or not it can be pinned on anyone else, or connected to league officials, is inconsequential in my opinion. It happened, and has happened several other times since then.
As for the second question, if I were Donaghey, you are absolutely right I would point to that game. I'd blow the whistle and take every interview. If anyone has credibility about inside knowledge, then it's Donaghey. He may not be a trusted source, but he was nonetheless immersed in the culture, and would have received the very "advice" that other refs have been given to steer games.
Put it another way...did any intelligent person in the world actually think that the Celtics would win and the Lakers would lose Game 3? Was there any doubt that Kobe would shoot a ton of free throws? Was it a surprise that the Lakers had more free throws, and for quite some time they were ahead by a large margin? Exactly.
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That's not a surprise. A surprise would have been if Benson showed up.
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
BEARS DEFENSE WASN’T FOND OF CEDRIC BENSON
Posted by Josh Alper on June 11, 2008, 10:40 a.m.
Cedric Benson may be convinced that the police in Texas have him in their crosshairs but his problems with uniformed groups didn’t end when he crossed the state line.
According to Jay Glazer, Benson was not well-liked by his teammates on the Bears either. He went on Dan Patrick’s radio program yesterday, via MJD at Yahoo! Sports, and recounted a tale from the 2006 training camp. Thomas Jones and Lovie Smith were feuding and some Bears vets felt that Benson was getting handed the starting job prematurely, an idea they couldn’t get behind. “Hell, one year they tried to hurt him to make sure that Thomas Jones was going to be the starter. That’s how bad it was with that team,” Glazer told Patrick.
When Patrick asked if he got the information from a Bears player, Glazer responded “No, it wasn’t a Bears defensive player. It was about ten of them.”
That’s enough to drive a man to drink his sorrows away.
Jay Glazer can stick his head in his rear with this "ten of them" nonsense. Until I hear names, the guy is full of it, and no better than PFFFFFFFT.
What incentive would the D have to hurt Benson? None. It would only have made the team worse, regardless if they liked the guy or not.
I call BS on this old story that was never proven back then, and won't be proven now.
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There has been a lot of talk for years about crooked refs, and fixed games in the NBA. I have believed the hype for quite some time, especially considering I hate some of the teams that have won. I have varied thoughts on this, but basically I see Donaghey like Canseco.
Both were called cheats.
Both were proven cheats.
Both said that others were involved.
Both were dismissed as liars.
Both were proven true.
The only difference I see right now is that Canseco has much more proof than Donaghey, who only has the words of Van Gundy (who is now trying to deny those words) to back him up.
Do you think it's happening? Do you think it's just the refs, or is it the league? What led to it all?
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I don't think we should count on Garrett Wolfe giving us any kind of production this season. He's a special teams player and a spot backup, meaning he won't see much action at RB throughout the year. I think it's gonna be Forte but you know Lovie, he's gonna preach that "Adrian Peterson will take reps with the first team and we'll go from there." I hope I'm wrong about that because Adrian Peterson as we saw last year, isn't anything special and most certainly isn't a starter (He didn't even outplay Cedric Benson last year). As I see things now, were not going to have a great offense either way. I expect us to be at the bottom part of the league in the offensive category. We have no quarterback, an inexperienced runningback, no #1 or #2 receiver, a bad offensive line; and as you can see to where I'm going with this, were not going to get any high amount of production from anybody on this offense this year barring somebody has an absolute miracle breakout season. Who among the starters has that capability? I think there are only two, Devin Hester, and Greg Olsen. If we get pro bowl production from these guys, we may be alright, but we shouldn't expect it.
This line of "reasoning" baffles me. We barely saw the guy last year, and yet so many are just ready to write him off. He showed more in very limited action last year than anyone else on the roster; I know that for a fact.
Why can't we count on Wolfe?
Why can't we expect production?
Why is he a special teams player?
Seems to me it's just doubt because of his size...something that didn't stop him from beating up on larger college players, and stomping a mudhole in Ohio State, a defense filled with future NFLers. And, as I said, when given the shot last year (and used intelligently), he made some nice plays in very limited time last year.
Give the guy a chance!
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Ideally, I would like the Bears to do what the New Orleans Saints have done the last couple of years. Forte having the same role as Deuce McCalister ( majority of the carries, tough runner). Garret Wolfe have the Reggie Bush role ( 10 + touches a game, some by pass, some by sweeps or trick plays) and AP would fill the Pierre Thomas role ( classic backup, only used if one of the other two goes down with an injury. I think that would be the best way to use our 3 backs.
Wow. What a great reply. Exactly what I would like, and from a seldom seen poster.
You need to get more involved here...good insight.
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I can see either any of the three RBs currently on roster being the primary RB, but I don't think any will get a ton of carries. I think it'll be a three-headed monster this year, with Forte slowly getting more carries by year's end.
What I'd love to see is Wolfe get the majority of the carries in the beginning of the year. We've already seen what Peterson can do, and I love the guy, but he's not capable of doing anything spectacular in the NFL from what we've seen. Wolfe, on the other hand, could cause some serious damage and break off long runs/catches. He's a wild card, a guy that the defense could have problems with.
What do you want to see? What do you think would help the team the most?
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Jason,
It's a fun read! However, the biggest question behind any conspiracy theory is "why"? Would it be to solely play in Texas somewhere? I just don't think that's the case. I think the guys just has no heart and is a f up...
BTW - If he never wanted to be a Bear, I'm glad that door hit him on his way out.
But don't you see!?!? That's why he went "speeding". He wanted to look like he wasn't quitting, but just happened to -oops! - run into a little more trouble.
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Let's put everything together...
1) Reports have come out that he hated being drafted by the Bears, thus the crying
2) Numerous stupid statements in the media - begins to irritate the fan-base
3) Hold out - immediately getting the management and city against him
4) Pouting because he was behind TJ, a superior RB as far as production (and biceps) - irritates all
5) More stupid comments - Irritation level rising
6) Allegations of playing soft, and not playing while hurt (read: hurt is not injured) - irritates teammates
7) Bears cut Tank - precedent set
8) Boat incident
Pause. This is where we need to pause and realize that this guy KNEW he was on thin ice.
9) Late night driving incident
Pause again. He knew he was on thin ice, and was taking heat from all over the place. So he decides to push the envelope a little. He didn't want to do anything bad like robbing a bank, just enough to push the front office. It's a stupid-smart movie. It's stupid to break the law, but the end result could work towards what he wants.
10) He realizes the driving incident wasn't enough
11) DUI - He pretty much knows that this is the final straw. He has talked to Lovie, to JA, and everyone else of importance. He knows that he's gone. And he's SMILING IN HIS MUG SHOT.
12) Bears cut him...and the "I'm so sorry. I know I should have done better."-BS statement comes moments later
13)?????
I think 13 will be "Benson signs with Texans". Or maybe the Cowboys will take yet another talented former Bear with character issues.
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I have talked about this before, but will again.
DJ was my top choice as well, but in hindsight, I question how good of a pick he would have been.
(1) DJ is a WLB. I think we have a pretty good one in Briggs. If you played DJ at WLB (a) would he have been as good as Briggs and (
what happens to Briggs. Would Briggs even be as good as Hunter at SLB?(2) If you played DJ at SLB, who knows how he would have panned out. As great as Urlacher is at MLB, he was pretty dang poor at SLB when he first started out. Just because a player is great at one position, does not mean he would be at any LB spot.
So while I loved DJ, the emergence of Briggs puts into question how good of a pick DJ would have been.
Then there is Merriman. He is a stud in SD, but in a totally different scheme. His #1 asset is rushing the passer. He is similar to Colvin. Better, but the point is, similar. I am not sure we would have utilized him in such a way so as to make him into the stud we see today.
Some other players who I recall mention back then have turned out as bad, or even worse, than Benson. Pac Man, Troy Williamson and Mike Williams.
Benson has turned out to be a total bust, but I am not sure many of the players considered at the time would have turned out better, and as good/great as DJ and Merriman have turned out, I question how well they would have fit w/ us.
I agree almost entirely. However, whenever I see this discussion, I must always state that none of us know how a player would have turned out on another team. There is plenty of proof of players doing poorly on one team, in one situation, and then moving on to do great things with another team (e.g. Wes Welker). We can never know how well DJ or MW would have ended up on the Bears, just like we can't know how well Benson would have done elsewhere. Track records are one thing, but I truly believe that many of these guys are emotionally fragile, much like children in many ways. They are so used to getting the attention, getting everything that they want, that when they are faced with true adversity, and possible failure, they buckle. So, even though a player's track record is an indicator towards behavrior, it's not a guarantee that a completely different situation wouldn't have caused a completely different outcome.
PFT thinks Harris is calling out others
in Bearstalk
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For the record, if I blasted Farv it's because I hate Farv. Even though...I'm pretty sure I didn't bash him for it. If anything, I would have commended him for it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the majority of the players in the league are greedy bastards, and if they wanted to they would be playing on the team they want, and in the happiest situation in the world. They get blinded by the dollars, and it has ruined an aspect of how fans view players.
Whether or not Harris intended it (I don't think he threw them under the bus), I agree with the fact that he handled his negotiations quietly and professionally. Two out of three aspects of salary negotiation (non-greed being the other) that impress me.